A bit of a Dear Abby story, but here goes:
(TL;DR - This is an extreme example of a pussy-first lifestyle and one can only hope it doesn't get any worse)
A good friend is having difficulty with his main girl. He's 38; she just turned 29. As long as I've known him, he's been very confident, fun and adept at game - a total natural. He's one of those guys who could never teach it because aside from a few elementary tips, he just couldn’t put into words how he goes about scoring poon. He just does what he does and things happen. I've never heard him utter a game principle or drop a red/blue pill reference even once.
Regardless, he's had this main girl for almost as long as I've known him - about five years. Though they live in different cities, he's frequently in her area for work and they often travel together. Even though not rich and with more than adequate skills, he does big baller game as much as he can (exotic trips, expensive restaurants, pricey hotels, etc.), though lately his professional situation can't support the bottle service lifestyle. Wherever he takes up work next, he probably won't be making what he thinks he'll be making, but he should be ok. For now, financially he's a bit of a wreck but you'd never know it at first glance - he puts on a good show.
Also as long as I can remember, he's been spinning plates behind her back through mostly social circle game supplemented by dating apps. Most of his pulls are attractive, but there's been a few 5s and below here and there for sustainment sex. What I didn't realize until recently that he's been in and out of the swinging scene. I'd always thought the swinger crowd consisted of sorry looking middle aged flabby married couples getting together in a Motel Six over cheesy music and cheap wine. I guess now it's "polyamorous" coastal types in their thirties, but what do I know - not my thing.
For the longest time he kept telling everyone in his social circle that he and his girl were in an open relationship, though privately, she told her friends that she wasn't cool with the idea and probably didn't know how open her relationship really was. At less than ten lifetime sex partners (she was claiming just 4 by her mid twenties, FWIW), she wasn't the most sexually experienced American girl in the world. Supposedly she's also insecure about being with a guy who is very sexually experienced and now she's a bit FOMO (fear of missing out) on the carousel riding.
In response he's encouraged her to go out and experiment with different dudes, so long as he's kept apprised of the who & when. I can't even begin to understand why any guy would want to be a cuckold, especially a natural with plenty of options. It's bad enough to keep taking infidelity from her if she cheats, but quite another to encourage this behavior in the first place.
Regardless, not long thereafter she fucked a couple of guys, one of them from work She told him, and he was a-ok with that - almost eager by the sounds of it. Then he suspected she went out and fucked some other dude without telling him. He saw this as a trust issue (yeah, I know - everyone else would see it as WTF are you doing encouraging her to bang other dudes, but I digress)
Figuring out her phone password, he found message details of an "unreported" fuck, confronted her and got pissed, throwing a tantrum and breaking some shit in the process. They've since broken up but he claims they're trying to get back together.
After that, she went from loyal GF to giving him an ultimatum: move to her city permanently, find a job and then they can start to put things back together. Incredibly, he's moving to an apartment down the street from her. And yeah, he's still spinning plates, though not as high quality as usual. She knows about them, but he says it's ok since he's single - not sure how all that figures into the getting back together part.
In the middle of this he's got a couple of dubious, very gay close friends too. I couldn't help thinking of Michael Fassbender's character in Shame when I stopped to notice what looks like sex addiction coupled with severe codependency going way off the rails. He has a therapist, one he saw years ago but recently started seeing again. Unfortunately as you might expect she's female and likely giving him the worst possible advice from a counseling industry already littered with blue pill viewpoints and a destructive, anti-male vibe.
To be sure, it's a convoluted and very weird tale, but I'm just trying to make sense of it all. He's a good friend but he's on a completely different planet lately. I don't know how common guys like this are since nowadays a combination of blue pill, white knight and/or incel seems to be everywhere.
I'm wondering if anyone else knows anyone like this - good with game but still fucking/cucking their life up with ever escalating sexual habits. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
(TL;DR - This is an extreme example of a pussy-first lifestyle and one can only hope it doesn't get any worse)
A good friend is having difficulty with his main girl. He's 38; she just turned 29. As long as I've known him, he's been very confident, fun and adept at game - a total natural. He's one of those guys who could never teach it because aside from a few elementary tips, he just couldn’t put into words how he goes about scoring poon. He just does what he does and things happen. I've never heard him utter a game principle or drop a red/blue pill reference even once.
Regardless, he's had this main girl for almost as long as I've known him - about five years. Though they live in different cities, he's frequently in her area for work and they often travel together. Even though not rich and with more than adequate skills, he does big baller game as much as he can (exotic trips, expensive restaurants, pricey hotels, etc.), though lately his professional situation can't support the bottle service lifestyle. Wherever he takes up work next, he probably won't be making what he thinks he'll be making, but he should be ok. For now, financially he's a bit of a wreck but you'd never know it at first glance - he puts on a good show.
Also as long as I can remember, he's been spinning plates behind her back through mostly social circle game supplemented by dating apps. Most of his pulls are attractive, but there's been a few 5s and below here and there for sustainment sex. What I didn't realize until recently that he's been in and out of the swinging scene. I'd always thought the swinger crowd consisted of sorry looking middle aged flabby married couples getting together in a Motel Six over cheesy music and cheap wine. I guess now it's "polyamorous" coastal types in their thirties, but what do I know - not my thing.
For the longest time he kept telling everyone in his social circle that he and his girl were in an open relationship, though privately, she told her friends that she wasn't cool with the idea and probably didn't know how open her relationship really was. At less than ten lifetime sex partners (she was claiming just 4 by her mid twenties, FWIW), she wasn't the most sexually experienced American girl in the world. Supposedly she's also insecure about being with a guy who is very sexually experienced and now she's a bit FOMO (fear of missing out) on the carousel riding.
In response he's encouraged her to go out and experiment with different dudes, so long as he's kept apprised of the who & when. I can't even begin to understand why any guy would want to be a cuckold, especially a natural with plenty of options. It's bad enough to keep taking infidelity from her if she cheats, but quite another to encourage this behavior in the first place.
Regardless, not long thereafter she fucked a couple of guys, one of them from work She told him, and he was a-ok with that - almost eager by the sounds of it. Then he suspected she went out and fucked some other dude without telling him. He saw this as a trust issue (yeah, I know - everyone else would see it as WTF are you doing encouraging her to bang other dudes, but I digress)
Figuring out her phone password, he found message details of an "unreported" fuck, confronted her and got pissed, throwing a tantrum and breaking some shit in the process. They've since broken up but he claims they're trying to get back together.
After that, she went from loyal GF to giving him an ultimatum: move to her city permanently, find a job and then they can start to put things back together. Incredibly, he's moving to an apartment down the street from her. And yeah, he's still spinning plates, though not as high quality as usual. She knows about them, but he says it's ok since he's single - not sure how all that figures into the getting back together part.
In the middle of this he's got a couple of dubious, very gay close friends too. I couldn't help thinking of Michael Fassbender's character in Shame when I stopped to notice what looks like sex addiction coupled with severe codependency going way off the rails. He has a therapist, one he saw years ago but recently started seeing again. Unfortunately as you might expect she's female and likely giving him the worst possible advice from a counseling industry already littered with blue pill viewpoints and a destructive, anti-male vibe.
To be sure, it's a convoluted and very weird tale, but I'm just trying to make sense of it all. He's a good friend but he's on a completely different planet lately. I don't know how common guys like this are since nowadays a combination of blue pill, white knight and/or incel seems to be everywhere.
I'm wondering if anyone else knows anyone like this - good with game but still fucking/cucking their life up with ever escalating sexual habits. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.