[a beer is enough]

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

[Rocha]

(09-11-2018 09:28 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

Bunch of nonsense putting the onus of women attraction towards one's eyes and hair color.

Of course Thor Ragnarok will bang a lot, not only in Spain or Italy, but everywhere (as would Gianluigi Buffon or Luca Toni for example). Some run of the mill scandinavian dude will have the same issues or worst (no language skills, cultural awareness, etc) in southern europe than a run of the mill local dude.

[OCZ]

I am not of thos ethnicities myself, but I am latino which in many countries it gets also confused by the fact that we are brown with you guys. I live in Scandinavia and as some guys mentioned before, being brown is not a at all a guarantiy of getting laid ( in the baltics and eastern europe in general is a plus), but it is not impossible neither.The only thing that makes you different from the refugees/ gangsterlooking latinos is the way you dress and they way you speak. If you speak the language is also a break up point. Playing the card of not being stereotypical is what will get you the points you need. Dress nice and play your game.

[wellrockthecity]

(09-11-2018 09:28 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

Dude what the fuck are you talking about? I know shitload of women in Southern Italy and Spain, none of them is in a relationship/married with a blond blue eyed guys (unless the guy is local and happen to have those genes).

I don't think a northern European guys is going to do well at all in neither country unless he speaks language fluently and mesh into culture, which are way more important than having blond hair for us.

Most of the guys have a fetish for blonde girls just because there are not that many here.

[Sir_Night]

@petburi
Strongly agree with you. Non Muslims try hard to adopt the culture but muslims tend to try to make others adopt to them which is ridiculous. They usually don't speak or understand the language properly.

[JWLZG]

(09-10-2018 03:07 PM)Merengues Wrote:  

You can score some brownie points sometimes but it certainly cannot be leveraged to get laid.

[mehdreamer]

Arab guy here.

I would say countries like Belgium, Germany, Netherlands are dead if you look brown.

I live in Belgium currently and girls prefer to stick to their own. You have to be a conventionally good looking blond/nordic man. A bit like Ryan Gosling or Chris Pratt type to have girls' attention.

I got the best results in countries like Poland and Latvia, Estonia. I banged a hot slim Latvian blond the first day I met her.

I took het to a wine bar, kissed her at a park while we were having a walk after and spent the whole night and the morning after banging her. Fun fact, we've met with a colleague of her the next day while I was leaving her apartment and giving her a goodbye kiss. She looked embarassed but later messaged me "Fuck him I dont care". Atta girl.


I was in Sweden 5 years ago, girls were sometimes approaching me but my game at that time was pretty bad.

I think the situation in Scandinavia is pretty bad for brown looking men..unless you convince the girls you're Argentinian/Brazilian/Spanish/Portuguese.

If you're brown, the key is to dress super good. Like an upper class white guy and have a low body fat.

The only way these girls will filter low SMV/low IQ rapefugeese and dark handsome foreigner is by the way you're clothing yourself. It is the first filter and you have to pass it.

[Nater]

I spent two weeks in France last year, I did not encounter any racism. Met some cool people, learned new stuff and had a great time overall...

By reading this thread, I noticed that many new members are getting their worldview shaped by the different political gurus, hence using the exact same post apocalyptic lingo. I have a feeling that some ears fall into the trap and miss out on some great things in life (ie: travel) because of all the political propaganda...

Let me offer you my perspective on the origin of that beautiful word POLITICS

Poli comes from the word poly in latin meaning many
Tics comes from the word tics in french and ticks in English.

Next time you find yourself clicking on the top-rated politics post of the day. Imagine 3 giant ticks tactically positioned on your body. The first one is in your brain and the other 2 are sucking the remaining testosterone from your balls. A couple of weeks later, you will be thinking that the sky is falling in London and that we all bang 5's because of migrants...

GO TRAVEL AND GET YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE!

[jbkunt2]

The UK was completely unaffected by the migrant crisis. I think they took in 10k total.

Germany took a mil. Still, that is barely 1% of the population.

[thedarkknight]

(12-17-2018 11:14 PM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

The UK was completely unaffected by the migrant crisis. I think they took in 10k total.

Germany took a mil. Still, that is barely 1% of the population.

Lie.

I have seen a sharp increase in the amount of Hijabis since Brexit. I see way way more hijabs floating around these days.

I do not give a fuck what the office of national statistics say.

I see what I see.

TDK

[Belarus1212]

Thedarkknight does not give a fuck what facts say. He believes the earth is flat. He sees what he sees.

[RavenBlack]

(12-18-2018 01:02 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 11:14 PM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

The UK was completely unaffected by the migrant crisis. I think they took in 10k total.

Germany took a mil. Still, that is barely 1% of the population.

Lie.

I have seen a sharp increase in the amount of Hijabis since Brexit. I see way way more hijabs floating around these days.

I do not give a fuck what the office of national statistics say.

I see what I see.

TDK

True, goverments dont tell the whole story...

In germany even in small cities the muslim and arab populations have increased a lot, the only way to get among a (almost) exclusively german crows is to attend German folk music festivals, or to attend to the Opera/classic music events...

All of Western Europe has gone to toilet

the countries that have already reached the point of no return are:

Netherlands, Belgium, France, UK, Germany and Sweden, its a matter of time until those countries are majority muslim non-ethinc Dutch/German/Swedish , etc.

I'd dare to say out of those 6 the UK and France are a bit (less) worse, the other 4 are probably in point of no return already, considering the low birth rates of the ethnic population, and the fact that they imported almost only young people, Ethnic British and French people dont have remotely as low birth Rate as Ethnic Germans, who without the "help" of the arab and african population (who are all in average 18-30 single males) the average age would be already bordering 50yo.

[RavenBlack]

(12-18-2018 06:52 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  

Thedarkknight does not give a fuck what facts say. He believes the earth is flat. He sees what he sees.

And you are being naive enough to believe all the middle eastern and African immigrants are "legal" and therefore counted by national statistics.

[Belarus1212]

Are you assuming my beliefs ? Can you see me?

[a beer is enough]

(09-12-2018 04:43 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 09:28 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

Bunch of nonsense putting the onus of women attraction towards one's eyes and hair color.

Of course Thor Ragnarok will bang a lot, not only in Spain or Italy, but everywhere (as would Gianluigi Buffon or Luca Toni for example). Some run of the mill scandinavian dude will have the same issues or worst (no language skills, cultural awareness, etc) in southern europe than a run of the mill local dude.

Being that this thread turned into the OP asking if he can get laid if he looks "brown", I still stand by my original point. Mediterranean women are probably the least fond of the darker skinned look whether the guy is handsome or not, it won't help him any. I actually thought it was a commonly accepted belief on this forum and really among well-traveled people that Southern Europeans are the least fond of darker skinned males when it comes to a social level.

The "opposites attract" theory has somewhat gone out the window with the experiences I have had with Scandinavian and German women, I think that is somewhat due to the migrant crisis, but then again my sample size has not been big enough. I have known a number of darker skinned guys who have managed to do well so my thoughts there are my game was just off at the time or I just ran into some real stuck up women from those countries.

[Cam Newton]

(12-18-2018 10:22 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 04:43 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 09:28 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

Bunch of nonsense putting the onus of women attraction towards one's eyes and hair color.

Of course Thor Ragnarok will bang a lot, not only in Spain or Italy, but everywhere (as would Gianluigi Buffon or Luca Toni for example). Some run of the mill scandinavian dude will have the same issues or worst (no language skills, cultural awareness, etc) in southern europe than a run of the mill local dude.

Being that this thread turned into the OP asking if he can get laid if he looks "brown", I still stand by my original point. Mediterranean women are probably the least fond of the darker skinned look whether the guy is handsome or not, it won't help him any. I actually thought it was a commonly accepted belief on this forum and really among well-traveled people that Southern Europeans are the least fond of darker skinned males when it comes to a social level.

The "opposites attract" theory has somewhat gone out the window with the experiences I have had with Scandinavian and German women, I think that is somewhat due to the migrant crisis, but then again my sample size has not been big enough. I have known a number of darker skinned guys who have managed to do well so my thoughts there are my game was just off at the time or I just ran into some real stuck up women from those countries.

It’s probably because you used such strong language. “Worship” is definitely a stretch.

To your point however, we know that blue eyes and blond hair are preferred amoung white Europeans. There are some large studies that show that blond hair and blue eyes have been increasing in Britain due to sexual selection since the Vikings arrived 1000 years ago.

[Cam Newton]

(12-18-2018 10:22 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 04:43 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 09:28 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I've never stayed in the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe for long amounts of time, my experience comes from knowing people from that part of the world, gaming women from there myself and knowing guys of various races who have stayed in those places and gamed women there.

From what I know of Southern European women, not being a blond hair blue eyed guy is going to be a knock against you. Spanish and Italian women are borderline-famous for worshiping the Norseman look. Unless someone has had another experience, I think a Middle Eastern looking guy should avoid the area. If not for the racism, definitely for the fact that it is a terrible area for dating and meeting women anyways.

Bunch of nonsense putting the onus of women attraction towards one's eyes and hair color.

Of course Thor Ragnarok will bang a lot, not only in Spain or Italy, but everywhere (as would Gianluigi Buffon or Luca Toni for example). Some run of the mill scandinavian dude will have the same issues or worst (no language skills, cultural awareness, etc) in southern europe than a run of the mill local dude.

Being that this thread turned into the OP asking if he can get laid if he looks "brown", I still stand by my original point. Mediterranean women are probably the least fond of the darker skinned look whether the guy is handsome or not, it won't help him any. I actually thought it was a commonly accepted belief on this forum and really among well-traveled people that Southern Europeans are the least fond of darker skinned males when it comes to a social level.

The "opposites attract" theory has somewhat gone out the window with the experiences I have had with Scandinavian and German women, I think that is somewhat due to the migrant crisis, but then again my sample size has not been big enough. I have known a number of darker skinned guys who have managed to do well so my thoughts there are my game was just off at the time or I just ran into some real stuck up women from those countries.

It’s probably because you used such strong language. “Worship” is definitely a stretch.

To your point however, we know that blue eyes and blond hair are preferred amoung white Europeans. There are some large studies that show that blond hair and blue eyes have been increasing in Britain due to sexual selection since the Vikings arrived 1000 years ago.

Edit: I should mention that even just a slight preference could produce this over a long period of time.

[a beer is enough]

I used strong language for sure and thats on me for sure but I do think that in areas of Europe where the viking look is common, a well put together darker skinned guy can do quite well. Even though I did say how Germany and Scandinavia could be tough for brown guys, that was more of my own personal experience with women of those countries (in hindsight, small sample size) which had me thinking that perhaps the migrant thing had to do with them being real cold towards me, I still know of guys with the kind of look OP describes who were well put together and did well with women from those places.

It does seem like in European countries where the average population is darker that local women would be more shut off to getting with the type of guys OP describes, maybe its due to not wanting to get any darker than they already are.

Not sure if it is more fueled by the lust minorities have for blonde women or what but I do notice I've met a number of couples where the girl was a top tier blonde and the guys fit the description OP points out.

[TruePro]

(12-18-2018 10:27 AM)RavenBlack Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 01:02 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 11:14 PM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

The UK was completely unaffected by the migrant crisis. I think they took in 10k total.

Germany took a mil. Still, that is barely 1% of the population.

Lie.

I have seen a sharp increase in the amount of Hijabis since Brexit. I see way way more hijabs floating around these days.

I do not give a fuck what the office of national statistics say.

I see what I see.

TDK

True, goverments dont tell the whole story...

In germany even in small cities the muslim and arab populations have increased a lot, the only way to get among a (almost) exclusively german crows is to attend German folk music festivals, or to attend to the Opera/classic music events...

All of Western Europe has gone to toilet

the countries that have already reached the point of no return are:

Netherlands, Belgium, France, UK, Germany and Sweden, its a matter of time until those countries are majority muslim non-ethinc Dutch/German/Swedish , etc.

I'd dare to say out of those 6 the UK and France are a bit (less) worse, the other 4 are probably in point of no return already, considering the low birth rates of the ethnic population, and the fact that they imported almost only young people, Ethnic British and French people dont have remotely as low birth Rate as Ethnic Germans, who without the "help" of the arab and african population (who are all in average 18-30 single males) the average age would be already bordering 50yo.

Well, if it's true, anti-Semitism will increase for sure (those migrants are 99% Muslims, and they hate Jews).
At the end not all evil comes to harm.

[TruePro]

Anyway race it's just 10% of attraction. I saw brown people doing well worldwide, but they were tall, good looking, rich and got game.
Of course girls'll prefer a tall blonde good looking guy to a short fat ugly middle eastern and vice versa.
My advice: no matter what race you are, stop complaining, start to improve your self on every aspect (money, appearance and game), and you'll get good girls even in Germany, Sweden and so on.

[pk9090]

Have a Scandinavian friend that tells me girls there always go first for the tall blonde muscular men, and then the rest. I believe him and think its like that all over the world.

[RespectivePerspective]

The data on race/ethnicity and marriage suggests that Southern Europeans merely have a stronger in group preference than NW Europe. This has also been supported by US Census data, although i’m unsure if they still publish this information. Going from memory of the 1986 Census, it said that Italian Americans married other ethnic Italians 70% of the time, while Anglo Americans (English origin) married other ethnic Anglos 55% of the time. Irish were at around 50%, and Iberians (Spain/Portugal) married other ethnic Iberians at rates similar to that of the ethnic Italians. FWIW, German Americans married other ethnic Germans at a rate similar to Anglos, and Polish Americans married ethnic Poles at a rate similar to Southern Europeans.

I found these findings on the higher in-group preference of Southern Europeans as compared to NW Europeans to be consistent with my own experiences, and the allusions to Nordic idoltry to not be overly reliable given the ties it has to German National Socialism.

[Cam Newton]

(12-20-2018 12:06 AM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  

The data on race/ethnicity and marriage suggests that Southern Europeans merely have a stronger in group preference than NW Europe. This has also been supported by US Census data, although i’m unsure if they still publish this information. Going from memory of the 1986 Census, it said that Italian Americans married other ethnic Italians 70% of the time, while Anglo Americans (English origin) married other ethnic Anglos 55% of the time. Irish were at around 50%, and Iberians (Spain/Portugal) married other ethnic Iberians at rates similar to that of the ethnic Italians. FWIW, German Americans married other ethnic Germans at a rate similar to Anglos, and Polish Americans married ethnic Poles at a rate similar to Southern Europeans.

I found these findings on the higher in-group preference of Southern Europeans as compared to NW Europeans to be consistent with my own experiences, and the allusions to Nordic idoltry to not be overly reliable given the ties it has to German National Socialism.

I’m not sure this can be dragged across the pond however. You’d have to control for a variety of other things. Most importantly the average time in America for each of those nationalities. For example, the Italian preference for marrying Italians could be due to the more recent migration of Italians to America, compared with Brits. A more recent migration would mean their culture is more intact, and thus they’d prefer someone from their culture - since it differs from the rest of society.

[rudebwoy]

(09-10-2018 05:28 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  

Agreed, Petburi.

@Rudedbwoy, seriously? Didn't you see any migrants? You might need to check your sight, unless migrants are the 5% of white people you see nowadays in Paris and Brussels?
So sad watching those great cities turning into shitholes.

You must be retarded.

In Brussels, I saw one or two beggars. They looked like gypsies or people from Syria, hard to tell.

In Paris, I stayed in the Montmatre district in a boutique hotel. I didn't see one beggar in that neighbourhood. I saw a heavy police presence at the main train station, they pulled over a few "dark" looking guys.
I love Paris and I am planning to return next year.

In London, I stayed in the Old Street area. I saw the usual ladies begging for money on Oxford Street but that was about it.
I hung out near Shoreditch at night and met up with old friends who live in various parts in London.

The guys on the other threads probably haven't stepped foot in Europe in the last decade, if at all. So quoting different news outlets about the doom and gloom is pathetic.

I hope they stay in their respective countries (cough - America) and don't travel to Europe.

[FlyingDutchman2018]

Next time visit Molenbeek in Brussels, then the 10th Arrondissement in Paris and then Peckham in London....