[Simeon_Strangelight]

Spanish Flu?

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/spanishflu.html

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Vaccine not virus responsible for Spanish flu

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RYLE DWYER writes on the horror of the 1918-20 pandemic which the propaganda says was caused by Spanish flu (Irish Examiner, May 1).
How did they know it was the virus of Spanish flu that killed millions of civilians and soldiers?

This disaster occurred when viruses were unknown to medical science.

It took a British science team to identify the first virus in man in 1933.

As regards the origin of the outbreak, he relates that a senior US army officer suggested that the Germans might have been responsible for the bug as part of their war effort, by spreading it in theatres or where large numbers of people assembled.

Did they also spread it among their own people, killing 400,000 as reported?

Ryle would have us believe that all those American soldiers who died from non-combatant causes may have died from Spanish flu.

But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being vaccinated.

A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six months of the war.

That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.

Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal diseases increased at an alarming rate.

After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.

The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had been practised for years.

The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.

This takes no account of those whose vaccine diseases were attributed to other causes.

The army doctors knew all these cases of disease and death were due to vaccination and were honest enough to admit it in their medical reports.

When army doctors tried to suppress the symptoms of typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid paratyphoid.

But when they concocted an even stronger vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease Spanish flu.

After the war, this was one of the vaccines used to protect a panic-stricken world from the soldiers returning from WWI battlefronts infected with dangerous diseases.

I remember how Jonas Salk said about the SV40 cancer-virus contaminated polio vaccines (which is an entirely new scam) that the vaccines of the 1950s and 60s were rather primitive. Yeah - but those from 1918 were certainly top-notch.

The Spanish flu was a Western "flu" - even Eastern Europe and other areas not vaccinated were unaffected by it.



BTW - the live polio virus vaccines has been discontinued in the West due to massive complications (aka billions paid out to victims - never mind the not apparently damaged), but it's all good for the brown people.

The problem of course is that they could not get away with it as easily as in 1918. The "flu" via vaccination would have to work better this time around.

[spokepoker]

That article and what you wrote is a bunch of bullshit.

[blck]

(08-03-2018 01:06 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 12:30 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Why does Bill Gates give a fuck about depopulation which is a good thing? He should be shipping tonnes of birth control pills to Africa.

I will be the first to admit that the wealth of Africa is completely wasted on Africans. I believe the colonialists could have handled the situation a lot better.

I find it hard to believe that you're African when you always say stuff like this.

In fact he is, his IP locate him there

[Pride male]

^Look. I saw first hand a country, Zimbabwe turn to shit. So for me to say, Africans are sitting on fortunes but wasting it away on fast cars is the truth. I am an African but I try to be realistic.

[Kid Twist]

(08-03-2018 05:19 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

BRING IT. Tourism is out of control, you can't go anywhere anymore. If we manage to survive life will be glorious for a few decades at least.

I like this, it's up my alley --- high risk = high gain.

[Kid Twist]

Along somewhat similar lines, I wonder when elective surgeries will be huge risks given antibiotic resistance. We've been kicking that can down the road as well, and been seemingly just as successful --- it always last longer than anyone thinks. But then, a steep decline occurs.

When it happens it'll be more accurate to say that many people lived and survived due to just a good run of medical sciences and technology, in general. It won't be that the plague was historically "deadly" so much as the average and weak were living or born at the right time.

[MrLemon]

(08-03-2018 09:47 AM)Baphomet Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 09:28 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

30 million? That's a drop in the ocean. The world population is over 7 billion.

How would 30 million affect anything?

Not much from a global perspective.

About 55 million people die, globally, every year. An additional 30 million would represent about a 1%, rather than a normal .7%, over-all mortality rate.

Locally, the effects may be quite devastating.

Did everyone see the movie "Contagion"? I thought it well done and realistic. Good way to get your head in the game. Plus it was fun to see Gwynenth Paltrow die.

I've heard disease specialists talk about 500 million as a perfectly likely scenario. Historically die-offs can be in the 10-15% range.

The human race is heading for that now. It's just a clock, ticking down to midnight. Want to survive? Be rich, or, be single and ready to live like a cockroach, tough and resilient as hell. Have a hideout in New Zealand. You need to be able survive for 1-2 years while the riots die down and the scientists distribute cures. Science is now advanced enough that they will always eventually find a vaccine, but it's just a matter of surviving long enough.

[Contagion]

(08-04-2018 02:28 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

Did everyone see the movie "Contagion"? I thought it well done and realistic. Good way to get your head in the game. Plus it was fun to see Gwynenth Paltrow die.

I've heard disease specialists talk about 500 million as a perfectly likely scenario. Historically die-offs can be in the 10-15% range.

The human race is heading for that now. It's just a clock, ticking down to midnight. Want to survive? Be rich, or, be single and ready to live like a cockroach, tough and resilient as hell. Have a hideout in New Zealand. You need to be able survive for 1-2 years while the riots die down and the scientists distribute cures. Science is now advanced enough that they will always eventually find a vaccine, but it's just a matter of surviving long enough.

Yes, I have seen the movie Contagion, MrLemon.

[infowarrior1]

(08-03-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

30 million is nothing. Zero. Even 300 million wouldn't be that much. A few years of births in Africa and middle east and done!

The reason that there are so many people right now is that its not because we breed so fast given that we are actually a really slow breeding species. In fact pre-industrial revolution wise population grew very slowly over centuries.

There are plenty of other animals that breeds so much faster than humans and increase their population so much faster.

No. Its because we have the ingenuity to create powerful technology and techniques that has a very disproportionate impact on our environment and other animals.

And the fact is we just make up 0.01% of all biomass indicating that we are still very few compared to everything else.
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-humans-acc...-bugs.html


We are really punching above our weight given how everything else is so much more prolific we are so much more powerful than other plants and animals as shown by this paper here:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/05/15/1711842115


Its because we are not dying so much(compared to the past) due to improvements in medical technology that we have so many people and increase so fast.

Even in prehistoric times we do not die as often as other animals from birth to old age. We are still relatively long-lived even back then.

[MrLemon]

(08-05-2018 12:17 AM)Contagion Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 02:28 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

Did everyone see the movie "Contagion"? I thought it well done and realistic. Good way to get your head in the game. Plus it was fun to see Gwynenth Paltrow die.

I've heard disease specialists talk about 500 million as a perfectly likely scenario. Historically die-offs can be in the 10-15% range.

The human race is heading for that now. It's just a clock, ticking down to midnight. Want to survive? Be rich, or, be single and ready to live like a cockroach, tough and resilient as hell. Have a hideout in New Zealand. You need to be able survive for 1-2 years while the riots die down and the scientists distribute cures. Science is now advanced enough that they will always eventually find a vaccine, but it's just a matter of surviving long enough.

Yes, I have seen the movie Contagion, MrLemon.

Really? I couldn't tell.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Movies like Contagion are nothing but the usual globalist and vaccine propaganda.

In addition it is based on stupid presumptions. They are always chasing the "source" as if the "mutated" virus would not help. Buddy - even according to their own idiotic vaccine logic then different virus strains would not work - mutated ones would need a different vaccine. The source is utterly irrelevant - you can grab anyone and make a vaccine. If there are hundreds of strains, then you would need at least 100+ vaccines.

If humanity ever depended on a vaccine for survival, then it would be dead. The whopping cough vaccine as well as many others are utterly inefficient. Most people don't know jack shit about the subject - including doctors - and that is very deliberate.

Movies like Contagion are like transgender propaganda movies - nothing like indoctrination.

[Pride male]

What is the probability that one day homo sapiens will go extinct?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-06-2018 08:30 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

What is the probability that one day homo sapiens will go extinct?

100% - at the latest when the universe ends in a few billion years.

Nothing lasts forever.

But so long as we don't blow up the planet, then we should live as long as the sun is shining. And even if we are alive longer, then it depends whether humanity reaches interstellar transportation. Humans could live among the stars until the end of this universe for billions of years.

Currently the estimations about our universe's entropy and our sun are 5 billion years. What happens then is unknown - maybe a giant black hole will swallow it all up and a new universe will be born. Either way - no human body will be able to survive that.

[Bain]

(08-06-2018 09:31 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 08:30 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

What is the probability that one day homo sapiens will go extinct?

100% - at the latest when the universe ends in a few billion years.

Nothing lasts forever.

Currently the estimations about our universe's entropy and our sun are 5 billion years

Time is just a state of mind. No mind means you have no time.

A few billion years from now when the universe ends seems like a lot of time. But for those who are born in that period, they will have no time to look forward too.

Five billion years ago when earth and universe was formed - that is also a lot of time -- but for us alive today that time has already passed.

If it was your last day on earth you also would have no time to look forward to.

Hence there really is no such thing as time. It is only created by the mind.

[blck]

(08-06-2018 11:37 AM)Bain Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 09:31 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 08:30 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

What is the probability that one day homo sapiens will go extinct?

100% - at the latest when the universe ends in a few billion years.

Nothing lasts forever.

Currently the estimations about our universe's entropy and our sun are 5 billion years

Time is just a state of mind. No mind means you have no time.
A few billion years from now when the universe ends seems like a lot of time. But for those who are born in that period, they will have no time to look forward too.

Five billion years ago when earth and universe was formed - that is also a lot of time -- but for us alive today that time has already passed.

If it was your last day on earth you also would have no time to look forward to.

Hence there really is no such thing as time. It is only created by the mind.

Just reading that my joints stopped cracking and my mom's wrinkles disappeared !
Thx Bain !

[Batka]

I don't think it will be a pandemic that will cause the next cull.

[Kid Twist]

(08-06-2018 12:20 PM)Batka Wrote:  

I don't think it will be a pandemic that will cause the next cull.

... please continue.

[Mr. D]

Is it wrong to hope that number would include the majority of feminists/SJWs/PC assholes?

[Bain]

(08-06-2018 12:20 PM)Batka Wrote:  

I don't think it will be a pandemic that will cause the next cull.

Does it really matter what will be the cause. Depopulation is an outcome that I am of the opinion will occur - it is the next phase. And a number of factors support that it will happen in the next 100 years.

Many in the scientific and academic community do not not discuss this topic.

The avoidance of discussion is more interesting.

The west with all its holly wood glamour has made Death to be a fearful and disconnected topic - when it has always been a normal aspect of nature.

There is nothing like dying and death that bring people back to reality again.

[Aurini]

(08-07-2018 06:23 AM)Mr. D Wrote:  

Is it wrong to hope that number would include the majority of feminists/SJWs/PC assholes?

It will start in the bathhouses; places where they exchange body fluids while having compromised immune systems. From there it will spread to the allies.

[MANic]

A serious pandemic could hypothetically kill significantly more than that. 30 million is really a drop in the ocean. The Black Death was responsible for the elimination of roughly 30%-60% of Europe's population for instance. In our era of ever increasing urbanisation and large metropoles a serious pandemic could do significant damage. I'm no expert on disease and can't really comment in the subject with any degree of confidence.

I know that many a poster is a global warming sceptic but I personally disagree. Much of recent weather data appears to indicate that somethig a tad bit more menacing is afoot. Which leads us to a possible natural culling mechanism. Environmental Disaster. Sufficient strides have been made in farming, to the extent where we could churn large international food surpluses even with an increasing population assuming a stable climate and moderately efficiently farming practice (large scale war would obviously render this moot).
My secondary supposition is, however, a bold one. Some form of water shortage is likely to occur towrad the end of our lives (even if we may not be directly affected by it). Snowfall is a massive source of fresh water and we are likely to experience severe decreases in it. Further, groundwater resources are rapidly receedng...

G2g will return to complete this post.

[debeguiled]

(08-07-2018 10:51 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 06:23 AM)Mr. D Wrote:  

Is it wrong to hope that number would include the majority of feminists/SJWs/PC assholes?

It will start in the bathhouses; places where they exchange body fluids while having compromised immune systems. From there it will spread to the allies.

You know your San Francisco History.

Ironically, AIDs from the SF bathhouses is what killed Michel Foucault.

What don't you think members look like.



Sorry.

[Kid Twist]

(08-07-2018 10:14 AM)Bain Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 12:20 PM)Batka Wrote:  

I don't think it will be a pandemic that will cause the next cull.

Does it really matter what will be the cause. Depopulation is an outcome that I am of the opinion will occur - it is the next phase. And a number of factors support that it will happen in the next 100 years.

Many in the scientific and academic community do not not discuss this topic.

The avoidance of discussion is more interesting.

The west with all its holly wood glamour has made Death to be a fearful and disconnected topic - when it has always been a normal aspect of nature.

There is nothing like dying and death that bring people back to reality again.

Yes, the market's gonna crash at some point in the next 100 years too. Uninteresting.

Your fear of death topic is far more interesting. I'm just hoping you'd think more about it to write something that I can like.