[Days of Broken Arrows]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"As it happens, RooshV is not white, which means he will never be embraced by the alt right, no matter how enthusiastically he stands for their racist, sexist ideology."

This is a perfect example of why the ADL people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. The following quote is from the 2000 U.S. Census (link here):

"The term "White" refers to people having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa."

Since Roosh is Middle Eastern, he is defined as white by the U.S. Government. As such, whoever researched and wrote the ADL press released DIDN'T DO THE BASIC HOMEWORK AND GOT A MAJOR FACT WRONG.

It also means that despite all their accusations, THEY'RE the ones doing the stereotyping: "Duh...he looks dark, therefore he must not be white. Duh." How fucking stupid can you be?

What's the punishment for this kind of idiocy? There is none! Back when I was with a big daily newspaper, I'd have been fired or reprimanded because I didn't do research. Yet these people can make accusations and assertions willy-nilly and no one calls them on it.

All of which means: These people operate on gossip, hearsay, and "received wisdom." They certainly don't work with facts. It took me about a minute to find that Census info. But it looks like even something that simple is beyond these ADL simpletons.

[VincentVinturi]

Another example of language hijacking ala Orwell.

This term "deep-seated"...

It really makes me want to soccer kick a kitten every time I read or hear it.

In the first place it should be "deeply seated", you illiterate pinko morons.

Second, every leftist seems to elevate long-discredited Freudian quack pop psychiatry to the status of incontrovertible fact when it's time to diagnose what's allegedly wrong with the people who dare hold so much as a semblance of a rational opinion.

Think that the welfare state and elevation of women to protected species at the expense of men and society as a whole is a problem? Well then, you must have been traumatized or inappropriately touched as a kid.

Every time I fly back into Thailand I look up at the sky and thank my lucky stars to be living in a place largely free from this absolute utter insanity that's rotting the West like a cancer.

[BortimusPrime]

Roosh, I would recommend writing to the ADL a heartfelt and impassioned letter explaining that you aren't in the least bit a racist, and to prove it include a link to the Juicy Jewesses thread.

[jordypip23]

(07-31-2018 01:15 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 04:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

As it happens, RooshV is not white, which means he will never be embraced by the alt right, no matter how enthusiastically he stands for their racist, sexist ideology.

I don't understand why everyone claims that Roosh is not white. Looks pretty white to me.

Iranians are Indo-Europeans after all. Even more - aren't they the actual Aryans?

This whole Iranian being non white thing seems very political to me. I don't know whether it is neo-Nazi white-supremacists not accepting that there can be Non-European whites or it is Iranians themselves claiming to be non white to get minority status.

At least in this case case the mention of Roosh as non white is defiantly manipulative - an attempt to put a stake between Roosh and most of his fallowers.

It might be a tactic of the left to artificially narrow the concept of "white" to get more people to their side of diversity agenda pushers. Next thing they can do is declare Finns or Slavs or Greeks as non-white. Utter bullshit.


I think Americans are artificially programmed to distinguish too many races and it causes too much divide. In Eastern Europe we distinguish only white,yellow,red,brown and black. I think it is already enough and distinguishing more is overthinking it. The modern leftist trend to label every other ethnicity and even every other religion as another race is wrong.

The ADL will go after anyone that is hip to the globalist agenda. They don't like black power figures either (ie. Louis Farrakhan of the "Nation Of Islam").

[Hypno]

I meant to say it is ironic when its the Anti Defamation League that DEFAMES you.

[TigerMandingo]

(07-30-2018 04:50 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Is there any word more meaningless and more overused than "virulent"?

I've noticed that it is only used in conjunction with "anti-semitism", although in this case they broke protocol and used it with "white supremacy".

Otherwise, "virulent anti-semitism" is textbook establishment lingo. Another you will often hear is that The Protocols of Zion is a "forgery" (forgery of what?). Not sure how that discredits it, though.

[Vill@in]

Where do we bring our offerings, O Dear Leader?

As a misogynist, I assume you want only white, blonde hair, blue eyed virgins. Or was it because you're Anti-Semitic? I can't keep up anymore.

It's a moot point anyway, as there are no more virgins in the West.

[[email protected]]

>it is the year 2050.
>Due to females not breeding welfare and all forms of social safety nets became unsustainable and collapsed.
>After the Beta Uprising of 2041, women across the globe have lost the right to vote and are not permitted to work or even operate a vehicle.
>monogamy is strictly enforced by society and government.
>Roosh is now a messianic figure that brought back patriarchy and white pride back into the norm
>Basically, it's like living in Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale"
>It's awesome.
>Two white men are sitting down on comfortable chairs, amicably discussing Roosh's new book release
>using their conscripted Handmaiden's as foot rests.
>"But you do realise he isn't WHITE, right?"
>"Yeah, I know, it's a problem."

[CynicalContrarian]

^
Now for the whole world to see :

[url=https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1024338520826101761][/url]

[nomadbrah]

Recording of Roosh on his way to a W H I T E supremacist meeting:

I wonder if this could help with the ladies. I mean, it's not everyone who can introduce themselves as the leader of an international white supremacist organisation.

[Easy_C]

We should email them angry about how they're being Islampohobic for not understanding Roosh's cultural differences. After he can't help himself, his Islamic heritage means he doesn't know any better.

[Bastard Sword]

(07-31-2018 01:15 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 04:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

As it happens, RooshV is not white, which means he will never be embraced by the alt right, no matter how enthusiastically he stands for their racist, sexist ideology.

I don't understand why everyone claims that Roosh is not white. Looks pretty white to me.

Iranians are Indo-Europeans after all. Even more - aren't they the actual Aryans?

This whole Iranian being non white thing seems very political to me. I don't know whether it is neo-Nazi white-supremacists not accepting that there can be Non-European whites or it is Iranians themselves claiming to be non white to get minority status.

At least in this case case the mention of Roosh as non white is defiantly manipulative - an attempt to put a stake between Roosh and most of his fallowers.

It might be a tactic of the left to artificially narrow the concept of "white" to get more people to their side of diversity agenda pushers. Next thing they can do is declare Finns or Slavs or Greeks as non-white. Utter bullshit.


I think Americans are artificially programmed to distinguish too many races and it causes too much divide. In Eastern Europe we distinguish only white,yellow,red,brown and black. I think it is already enough and distinguishing more is overthinking it. The modern leftist trend to label every other ethnicity and even every other religion as another race is wrong.

This is a side note, but claiming that Iranians are white is disingenuous. No one in their right mind would call this guy white:



And there are millions of Iranians who look exactly like him. Places like India, Iran, or North Africa have a ton of genetic variation -- to the point where you also get some Iranians who look like this:



Overall I don't agree with western conceptions of race -- there are millions and possibly billions of people across the world who don't neatly fit into any category and would get mistaken for ten other ethnicities if they came to America.

This is reflective of an overall issue with the modern right wing -- people like Roosh sharing certain views and ideological overlaps with outright Nazis and racists who view him in the same light as an Iranian guy hopping the border into Germany.

[Matsufubu]

So does this Defamation League have a Stanley Cup or something? Can we gain extra points by throwing shade at some Palestinians? Do we really have to play 7 games of 'Misogyny hockey' with Paul Elam or what?

Also, does Roosh being the head of multiple organisations and movements mean that he can give himself cool titles like 'CEO Patriarchy Inc.', 'Duke of Defamation', 'Marquis of Misogyny', 'Tsar of Testosterone'? I think he's earned it. If these organisations are going to call him the head of something they can at least afford him a title to make him sound scary to the leftists.

[gework]

A couple of days ago it was revealed that a social justice profiteer who founded the SPLC, which has also dubbed RoK a hate group, was divorced for, among other things, being a pervert and repeatedly trying to bang his 18 year old step-daughter with a vibrator.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There are quite a few conceptions of what is White - aka European Caucasian and what is not. The sane factions within the Alt Right clearly understand that many North Africans, Middle Easterners either are from old Aryan stock like in Persia or are mixed with European blood - the same even for ancient Aryan light-skinned Indians. Also I wonder why everyone forgets Roosh's Armenian heritage:


Another half-Euro half-non-European Caucasian tribe.

Still - racial classifications while real do have some fluent lines - certain countries are very fluent, though most people in many countries are easily put into certain ethnic nation states despite the exceptions.

One other male supremacist German "Alt-Right" thought leader is the genius-level writer and son of Turkish immigrants:



He has embraced the German and Western culture better than the current day Germans - and he even bedded a Teutonic woman to Aryanize his progeny as seen here with his son.

Fact is the ADL neither likes anti-feminists, pro-masculine men and it certainly abhors when someone mentions the JQ. In addition they equate the Alt Right as some kind of Neo Nazis - at this stage the Alt Right is a losing ideology anyway, but their ideas will keep on living. I guess that they want to create a rift between anyone having sympathies with Roosh and anyone being for a pro-White pro-Western nation state. I can also be pro-Japanese state while never being able to become fully Japanese. And genetically Roosh can quicker become Swedish than I or my progeny could become Japanese.

Aside from that it's the typical shout-out to Roosh: "Why are you supporting the Nazis when they hate you?" By that measure then they could also tell Akif Pirincci: "Why are you siding with a German ethno-state while being of Turkish origin?" Because Akif is no stupid cunt and he likes the German culture and people - understands their merits, also with his genius-level IQ can easily compete with any German writer in history.

Typical playbook by the ADL. "You are not exactly super White - why don't you join our side and put on the Antifa/BLM/homoglobo garb - we are your allies." Yeah right - that is why Israel accepts White 0% Jewish Russians (who married a 25% Jewish woman), while it bars entry to half-Jewish Muslims. They are not stupid, but they want everyone else to be dumb as bread.

And while we are at it - the ADL attacks everything that:

1) States that Jewish meddling at the top may be against the interests of the majority populations of mostly White Christian states
2) White states have any ethnic basis for their existence - meaning that everyone can be Japanese, Nigerian, Mongolian, Chinese, Japanese, Somali, but the British and Germans are supposedly not made up by a majority of ethnicity - you could replace anyone with Somalis and would produce the same BMWs.

And I might add - Israel recently declared itself a Jewish ETHNIC STATE meaning that they have it enshrined to be a state for majority ethnic Jews. But woe if Finland wants to remain Finnish - that is racist. And woe if a based black man in Finland also supports the Fins with that being happy living as a minority among the Fins - he is racist too.

[nomadbrah]

Armenia is one of the principal origins of the white/European race.



The white people in the Armenian area migrated south and most likely became the Indus Valley, Sumerian, Minoan and ultimately Egyptian population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40338

Quote:

Our study has identified the Caucasus refugium as the likely source for the J1 and J2 haplogroups that now dominate Southwest Asia, and previously appeared to mark the Neolithic Revolution’s expansion into Europe39. Yet, haplogroups J1 and J2 are distinctly lacking in the earlier Yamnaya samples.

The geographic separation of modern J haplogroups in Southwest Asia, and the prevalence of J2 but not J1 in the expansion into Europe is striking given their close origins39,40.

J2 = Armenian, Persian, Minoan, Greek

J1 = Jewish, Arab



Our dear jewish friends in SPLC are therefore incorrect.

Roosh being Iranian/Armenian, therefore likely high in J2, is indeed a white European, while jews are not.

[Going strong]

Also, why are many people in the media saying that "Nazis" hate or would hate on Roosh because he's (part) Iranian? I mean, considering as it is purported by Historians that Nazis had a soft spot for Iranians. And isn't Aryanism symbolized by the following scripture, from the Darius the Great's wall in Naqshe-e-Rostam?

I am Darius, the great king, the king of kings
The king of many countries and many people
The king of this expansive land,
The son of Wishtaspa of Achaemenid,
Persian, the son of a Persian,
'Aryan', from the Aryan race

http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Languages/...t_rstm.htm



As to Ahmadinejad, he looks White to me (unless you darken him with Photoshop, which his enemies would do); he actually looks like Sarkozy's half-brother (and Sarkozy is Hungaro-Franco-Greek) .




I mean, it's ridiculous to consider that people with middle-east or Mediterranean blood are not White.

[RIslander]

This thread reminds me of this:

[nomadbrah]

Nazi racial classification:



Iranians and Armenians fall under the Dinaric subcategory of whites (bottom right).

[nomadbrah]

Armenia is also where the biblical myth of the flood came from.

Mount Ararat is in Armenia:



It's important when both jews and pagans go on about "muh jewish myth".

No, the bible describes non-jewish history. Egypt, Babylon, Sumer and Armenia. Peopled by J2 people, who were original Europeans.

Look at the source of the rivers Tigris and Euphrates!



The originate in the mountains of Armenia, the river Hazar, now Turkey, but back then it wasn't.

This shows it better:



See how close the source of both Tigris and Euphrates is to Armenia and Mount Ararat?

The ancestors of the non-semittic Sumerians sailed down the Tigris and Euphrates and founded their civilization, then onwards to India and up the Indus Valley:



[sperg out]

[Atlanta Man]

Thank you Roosh and my fellow white people! I have always wanted to be part of a racist right wing hate group, MAGA!

[Bastard Sword]

(08-02-2018 12:49 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Armenia is one of the principal origins of the white/European race.



The white people in the Armenian area migrated south and most likely became the Indus Valley, Sumerian, Minoan and ultimately Egyptian population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40338

Quote:

Our study has identified the Caucasus refugium as the likely source for the J1 and J2 haplogroups that now dominate Southwest Asia, and previously appeared to mark the Neolithic Revolution’s expansion into Europe39. Yet, haplogroups J1 and J2 are distinctly lacking in the earlier Yamnaya samples.

The geographic separation of modern J haplogroups in Southwest Asia, and the prevalence of J2 but not J1 in the expansion into Europe is striking given their close origins39,40.

J2 = Armenian, Persian, Minoan, Greek

J1 = Jewish, Arab



Our dear jewish friends in SPLC are therefore incorrect.

Roosh being Iranian/Armenian, therefore likely high in J2, is indeed a white European, while jews are not.

Wait, what? Iranians like this guy are white:

but a Jew who looks like this is not?



I don't know about you, but this science doesn't sound quite right to me...

If your "race" includes everyone from snow-white Norwegians to incredibly brown Iranians and North Indians, maybe it's not a very good distinguishing characteristic to begin with. It would be like if all darker-skinned Indonesians, Indians, and Arabs were considered "black". These are just absurdly broad terms that completely fail to accurately depict groups of people.

If Ahmedinejad is white, then so is most of the male population of the Middle East, North Africa, and North India. Hell my father looks whiter than him and he is from South India.

What's even more hilarious is that people from the first two categories are swarming Europe -- are you seriously claiming that all these migrants are white?

The only reason Roosh is given honorary whiteness by certain posters on the forum is because he agrees with them ideologically and promotes their cause -- there are still many, many right-wingers and alt-righters who despise Iran and Iranians and would never ever consider them to be white.

[nomadbrah]

Not all Iranians are white.

There are many subgroups in Iran. The original persians were invaded by arabs, mongolians and turks. There are turks, kurds, central asians, afghans, arabs. Achmadjinedad clearly has a lot of central asian heritage.

The average (upper class) Iranian has a distinct look though. Check out the Rich Kids of Teheran, not that different looking from Sicilians or Sardinians or Greeks.

Roosh is clearly a European looking Armenian/Persian. It's not rocket science.

It doesn't really matter though, because almost all Europeans recognize actual persians (not all iranians) as belonging to their family albeit a distant cousing. Not so with arabs and jews.

[nomadbrah]

(08-02-2018 04:57 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

If your "race" includes everyone from snow-white Norwegians to incredibly brown Iranians and North Indians, maybe it's not a very good distinguishing characteristic to begin with. It would be like if all darker-skinned Indonesians, Indians, and Arabs were considered "black". These are just absurdly broad terms that completely fail to accurately depict groups of people.

You should do some research into physical antrophology.

Skin color has never been used as a determinant of race. It's all about skull proportions. Brow ridges, forehead, chin, eye sockets, jaw, nose.

[Bastard Sword]

(08-02-2018 05:43 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Not all Iranians are white.

There are many subgroups in Iran. The original persians were invaded by arabs, mongolians and turks. There are turks, kurds, central asians, afghans, arabs. Achmadjinedad clearly has a lot of central asian heritage.

The average (upper class) Iranian has a distinct look though. Check out the Rich Kids of Teheran, not that different looking from Sicilians or Sardinians or Greeks.

Roosh is clearly a European looking Armenian/Persian. It's not rocket science.

It doesn't really matter though, because almost all Europeans recognize actual persians (not all iranians) as belonging to their family albeit a distant cousing. Not so with arabs and jews.

???

So Ahmedinejad -- who no one in America would consider white at first glance -- is white (he's the president, he definitely belongs to the upper class), but an Arab Muslim like Bashar al-Assad (who is incredibly pale/has blue eyes) is not?

It's like saying that a Congolese, a South Indian, and a Papua New Guinean all belong to the same category because they're dark skinned, and are completely different from lighter skinned Ethiopians or North Indians. What's more it suggests that light skinned people within one group (Persians, Indians, what have you), are a different "race" from darker skinned people from the group.

This is retarded level reasoning when you consider that even within families, people can look completely different. My father is 100% South Indian, but is extremely light skinned and generally passes for being Italian or Levantine Arab. My mother is slightly darker but also could pass for several other ethnicities. I on the other hand am very dark skinned. That doesn't make me a different "race" from my own parents, it's just a meaningless cosmetic difference.

All in all certain concepts of race are pretty stupid -- sure one could argue that a Norwegian and an Australian aboriginal are racially different, but trying to claim that "Iranians are white" or "X group is non-white" is a nonsensical way of thinking. The fact that there's this much debate over the subject just proves my point. No one is debating that Roosh is Iranian, but if different factions within the alt-right are debating whether he is or isn't white, maybe that's a stupid way of categorizing things?

The ADL actually makes a legitimate point with this because there are plenty of Stormfronters and others who see Roosh's ancestry as being more important than his conservative messaging -- to them he's just another brown immigrant stealing their jobs and banging their women. It becomes awkward sharing ideological ground with such people, as I'm sure he's found out.