[rotinz]

I see a lot of guys on here that are living more of a nomadic lifestyle, they often didn't like their home city/location and started traveling to find a better alternative. However frequent traveling and never staying in one place for long can result in you having no sense of belonging.

I'm 21 years old currently have no social circle and have been living in a poorer depressing area for a while in order to keep expenses down while I ramp up my online business. It's starting to take off so I'm planning to move to a less shitty place. I want to move to a city that has a lot of transplants since I feel like I would get along with those kind of people better. Since transplant heavy cities aren't as cliquish I think they are a good place to make some headway.

In some cities people aren't open to meeting new people and the whole city may give off a very cliquish vibe, with things like dating only happening within social circles that have known each other since childhood.

On the other hand there are cities with people that are more open to meeting new people and dating isn't so centered around old social circles. These cities often have a larger amount of transplants and that's why it's easier to do things like game girls and even establish social circles with other transplants.

Cities like Bangkok aren't really a good fit for what I'm thinking since cities like that feel like one big tourist destination and it feels like there is the locals on one side then a very alien group of tourists/expats. It also probably has a lot of expats but many are chasing an extreme party lifestyle while not looking at Bangkok as a home and they don't plan to live in places like Bangkok forever. I'm thinking of a more western country that would be enjoyable to live in for a long period of time.

I was thinking cities like Los Angeles and New York City would be very good for this since many people in their early 20s and all ages in general move to these cities in droves. The social circles probably aren't as restrictive their and so in those cities social mobility is probably easier. I'm curious to here some suggestions on what other cities are good for a transplant to move to.

[BigPoppaPump]

Maybe try a college town since you’re still younger. Lived in Tallahassee, FL and met a lot of Hot accessible women there. I hear Raleigh/Durham is good as well.

[LINUX]

If it was me and I was 21, I would hit the gym, take a shit load of steroids, eat clean, and move to a high traffic cheap spring break location like Panama City Beach Florida and set up shop there.

Save the city life for when you're over 25. NYC, LA, Denver, Chicago isn't going anywhere. But your youth will.

[Mikestar]

Mexico City. I have never been to a city where making connections with people and for business is so easy, I got offered 2 jobs just being on vacation and meeting the right people. You will make some amazing friends here, people seemed genuine.

[rotinz]

(07-21-2018 07:39 PM)BigPoppaPump Wrote:  

Maybe try a college town since you’re still younger. Lived in Tallahassee, FL and met a lot of Hot accessible women there. I hear Raleigh/Durham is good as well.

Yeah a college town would be cool to be in close proximity to other young people but it might get kind of boring living in a college town since those whole towns revolve around college and if you're not attending it could get boring. I might live in a bigger city that is in close proximity to a lot of colleges and college towns like Tampa for example.

(07-21-2018 07:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

If it was me and I was 21, I would hit the gym, take a shit load of steroids, eat clean, and move to a high traffic cheap spring break location like Panama City Beach Florida and set up shop there.

Save the city life for when you're over 25. NYC, LA, Denver, Chicago isn't going anywhere. But your youth will.

Do you recommend steroids at 21? I heard it can really fuck up your testosterone levels if you take it that young. With the place I move to I also want to maybe establish some kind of social circle with other transplants, that's why I was thinking NYC and LA would be good because so many people 18-early 20's move there and try to set up a life there. I feel like Panama City is more of an older expat place were people go to retire. South Beach Florida could be cool since Miami is really shaping up to be the next big international city.

(07-21-2018 07:48 PM)Mikestar Wrote:  

Mexico City. I have never been to a city where making connections with people and for business is so easy, I got offered 2 jobs just being on vacation and meeting the right people. You will make some amazing friends here, people seemed genuine.

Yeah Mexico City seems really cool I was thinking of maybe spending a couple months over there while I transition into getting my online business were I want it to be and I could practice my Spanish. Long term though I feel it could be kind of isolating since it might not have many people moving to it as transplants. I'd like a city were there are a lot of people moving to it trying to make something happen and set down some roots. However I'll most likely go to Mexico City so I can find out myself since I'll likely be using it as a jump board for wherever I'm landing next.

One thing I really like about Mexico City though is the girls really seem to be financially smart and there aren't to many gold diggers. I've talked to a couple people and they've all said the girls they met over there basically did everything for them, driving them around, paying for their meals, taking them places etc. I don't necessarily want this but it's a nice alternative to girls expecting things out of you. I feel like it's a more genuine city that definitely has good LTR material.

And another big plus, Mexican food is probably the best cuisine out there. Can anywhere else really give it a run for its money? I plan to start working out the next couple months and building a better physique so it would be awesome to have great food around to make bulking easy.

[NoMoreTO]

College Town - you'll be the young guy with a nice pad and can hook up with the local girls. If your business is good you could buy a house and rent it to friends get into the real estate market young never hurt

NYC/LA - agree wait til you're over 25, plus too expensive, why not be the big shot in a college town.

Pick a City with inflow of people from across the country, that way the people will be newer and open to new friendships, this is different than a place where everyone has lived there their whole lives and has the same circle from HS that you can't really crack.

Foreign - Palermo Soho in Buenos Aires is an awesome neighbourhood. You get warm weather in the winter, not sure where you are living but no need to be in the north east or mid west freezing your ass off in January / February where you can be somewhere with a nice climate, and better women.

My Vote: University Town

[Hypno]

I’m all for relocating if you can improve the quality of your life. If you live in the west and are location independent then moving somewhere where your expenses are less makes sense.

I don’t know if you should move for the purpose of resetting your social life. If you are weak or have problems socially in your own culture, it’s not realistic to expect them to disappear simply by relocating.

You should give some serious consideration to the causes of your unhappiness, your responsibility for your circumstances, and realistically evaluate whether moving will help or hurt. Moving can be very stressful.

[a beer is enough]

I am going to push back against the guys on here that recommended college towns. Maybe some college towns are exceptions to the rule but for the most part, your typical college town is run by Greek Life and you won't have access to the hottest girls without being in with that crowd, which is very tough to do.

Most college towns are small enough and after a while, it starts to feel like high school. You see the same people at the same bars once you go out enough and most of the girls are already seeing a guy, usually some frat guy or athlete.

If you are going to go that route, I'd recommend a college town where everything does not revolve around the campus itself. Columbus, OH is a great choice since it is a growing city with a lot going on outside of Ohio St itself. I'd avoid any college towns in the south, way too cliquish for an outsider to have any success and there is not much to do anyways.

Your best bet is going to be:

1. City/college town hybrid like Columbus, OH where everything does not revolve around the college itself.

2. Young cities all the millennials are moving to, some that come to mind are Minneapolis and NYC. I'd be weary though, make sure you don't end up in San Francisco or Seattle where you will run into a ton of feminazis and horrible gender ratios.

[SpursFan741]

Interesting Thread. Avoid Europe I'd say. In most European countries, it's very hard to make friends since everybody sticks to their social circle. ( the Friends they have known since high school).

Establishing a social cirlce in most asian cities isn't that hard ( Although, most of your friends will be expats). The bond that you are forming with the foreigners in Asia makes it pretty easy to make friends with them. However, they may leave again after a few months or years. Befriending local guys in Asia is also pretty easy, however due to cultural differences I mostly don't enjoy the friendships with local asian guys. I guess latin America will be your best option ( Mexico City, Medellin , Sao Paulo,..)

[rotinz]

(07-22-2018 04:40 PM)SpursFan741 Wrote:  

Interesting Thread. Avoid Europe I'd say. In most European countries, it's very hard to make friends since everybody sticks to their social circle. ( the Friends they have known since high school).

Establishing a social cirlce in most asian cities isn't that hard ( Although, most of your friends will be expats). The bond that you are forming with the foreigners in Asia makes it pretty easy to make friends with them. However, they may leave again after a few months or years. Befriending local guys in Asia is also pretty easy, however due to cultural differences I mostly don't enjoy the friendships with local asian guys. I guess latin America will be your best option ( Mexico City, Medellin , Sao Paulo,..)

I thought European countries would be more open cause of all the migrants coming in and I hear a lot of girls are going for guys and have boyfriends that are migrants. I hear a lot of more homogeneous countries like some in Scandinavia are really open to foreign guys.

What are your thoughts in North America in this regard? Have you just written it off completely?

[scenicway]

San Diego

I've lived all over the US, San Diego has the best combination of everything.

-Perfect weather
-City amenities, but doesn't feel like a city
-College girls
-Plenty of foreign women
-Fitness culture
-Relatively conservative compared to other west coast cities

I would avoid LA. LA is a hustle.

[Buddydowrongright2]

(07-22-2018 08:39 PM)scenicway Wrote:  

San Diego

I've lived all over the US, San Diego has the best combination of everything.

-Perfect weather
-City amenities, but doesn't feel like a city
-College girls
-Plenty of foreign women
-Fitness culture
-Relatively conservative compared to other west coast cities

I would avoid LA. LA is a hustle.

San Diego is an incredible place to live, but it's expensive. California in general for me is a no-gone zone at this point in my life, and I grew up there. After living in Europe for four years the cost of living and liberal craziness simply is not worth it. Granted, Orange County and San Diego are much more conservative and there are far fewer feminizi/soy-guzzling dumbfucks than the Bay Area or Los Angeles, due to the Marine Corps base and the high levels of wealth... but it's still California.

You'll get sunshine 300 days a year, and there are many beautiful women... but there are obviously some huge downsides. The first is what I mentioned before. Cost of living is super high. Expect to pay >$1000 for a tiny studio apartment, that will be in a shitty crime ridden part of the city, or far out in the suburbs (and not the ones on the the beach). I was paying $800 to rent a bedroom in a shared house in North Park, and that was 5 years ago. Prices haven't gone down since then, and NP/Normal Heights is about as far East of the 5 as I would venture.

Fitness culture is real, for sure. San Diego is the fittest place in North America. Competition is high. I am not a short man - I stand at 6'1 - but in San Diego I was. Facial aesthetics there for both men and women are much higher than anywhere else in the U.S. except maybe Manhattan or Hollywood. San Diego is a city of good looking people. Adjust expectations accordingly. I did well there for the few months I lived there when I was single (I spent the majority of my years there with a girlfriend). But, it's definitely not wife hunting territory, I'll put it that way. Women in San Diego are even sluttier than in the Bay Area, and that is saying something. The good looking ones also typically come from money so their expectations about guys can be downright retarded.

Get good at surfing at any cost or your chances at penetrating attractive women will be slim.

[Black Caesar]

If you’re not tied to a location then spend a few months in each of the top 4-5 places on your list and see what you vibe with.

Also it’s not hard to make friends as a traveler regardless of where you go, so after a month or two in a city you should really have a decent enough social circle that you can always come back to said city and drop in.

I’ve done most of the top cities in US and now can always go back there and have a place to crash or friends to go out with.

[scotian]

(07-22-2018 02:53 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I am going to push back against the guys on here that recommended college towns. Maybe some college towns are exceptions to the rule but for the most part, your typical college town is run by Greek Life and you won't have access to the hottest girls without being in with that crowd, which is very tough to do.

Most college towns are small enough and after a while, it starts to feel like high school. You see the same people at the same bars once you go out enough and most of the girls are already seeing a guy, usually some frat guy or athlete.

If you are going to go that route, I'd recommend a college town where everything does not revolve around the campus itself. Columbus, OH is a great choice since it is a growing city with a lot going on outside of Ohio St itself. I'd avoid any college towns in the south, way too cliquish for an outsider to have any success and there is not much to do anyways.

Your best bet is going to be:

1. City/college town hybrid like Columbus, OH where everything does not revolve around the college itself.

2. Young cities all the millennials are moving to, some that come to mind are Minneapolis and NYC. I'd be weary though, make sure you don't end up in San Francisco or Seattle where you will run into a ton of feminazis and horrible gender ratios.

Very few posters on RVF have access to top tier girls, the hottest ones, anywhere in the world they go and I always found it odd how so many guys are concerned with being around top talent when so few have access to them anyway. Of course, there are guys who do have access but generally they aren't sitting at home in some shitty town posting threads about where they should go to get laid, they make shit happen.

This is the second thread that the OP has made in the past week looking for advice on where he should move, the other one was about Montreal. He has admitted that he has no social circle and lacks friends, he doesn't sound like the type of guy who is going to move to a new city and have access to hot girls.

OP if I was you I'd focus on personal development first: hit the gym, get out of the house and try being more social (join some type of club or something, volunteer, etc), make some money (move if you have to) then go traveling.

Sitting at home and posting threads on RVF about where you should move and your lack of social life isn't going to help you and personally I find these threads, which pop up on here all too often, to be boring as hell.

[yankeetravels]

(07-22-2018 02:53 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I am going to push back against the guys on here that recommended college towns. Maybe some college towns are exceptions to the rule but for the most part, your typical college town is run by Greek Life and you won't have access to the hottest girls without being in with that crowd, which is very tough to do.

Most college towns are small enough and after a while, it starts to feel like high school. You see the same people at the same bars once you go out enough and most of the girls are already seeing a guy, usually some frat guy or athlete.

If you are going to go that route, I'd recommend a college town where everything does not revolve around the campus itself. Columbus, OH is a great choice since it is a growing city with a lot going on outside of Ohio St itself. I'd avoid any college towns in the south, way too cliquish for an outsider to have any success and there is not much to do anyways.

Your best bet is going to be:

1. City/college town hybrid like Columbus, OH where everything does not revolve around the college itself.

2. Young cities all the millennials are moving to, some that come to mind are Minneapolis and NYC. I'd be weary though, make sure you don't end up in San Francisco or Seattle where you will run into a ton of feminazis and horrible gender ratios.

I definitely agree about Columbus if we're just talking American cities. I've been to almost every major city on the east coast in the US and of the ones I've seen, I'd rank Columbus near the top of the list as a temporary home base to meet women. New York has hotter women, but for a young 20's guy, it's insanely expensive. Ohio is a cheaper part of the country and Columbus is still kind of in hush hush mode for the US where it hasn't gone mainstream, but definitely on the rise. For sports, it's run by Ohio St which means a lot of young women there, but also there's young professionals that commute into the city. It's basically a big circle of suburbs that are very easy to access with a car with a nice downtown in the middle for lesser sports, grabbing a drink, or commuting to work. The more I think about it, the more I wouldn't mind living in Columbus if I moved to another American city. I much prefer it to Cleveland and it's a great central hub of Ohio (though I'm a big fan of the state overall).

[Jetset]

I know I say this on every similar thread, but in the U.S.? Phoenix/Scottsdale.

There's a reason it's booming, and stuffed to the gills with transplants. The cost of living is hard to beat, the women are hot and sociable, and ASU brings all the blonds who were one standard deviation too dim to get into UCLA.

[TruePro]

In my experience South America, but in general it depends on which kind of person you are.
Everyone is different, and what is good for me may can't be for you.

[a beer is enough]

Lots of good convos I missed out on in this thread, so I'll take the time to respond to a few.

(07-24-2018 11:53 AM)scotian Wrote:  

Very few posters on RVF have access to top tier girls, the hottest ones, anywhere in the world they go and I always found it odd how so many guys are concerned with being around top talent when so few have access to them anyway. Of course, there are guys who do have access but generally they aren't sitting at home in some shitty town posting threads about where they should go to get laid, they make shit happen.

Might have been a poor choice of words on my end to use hottest and top tier, obviously guys should try anyways but what I was getting at is that in college towns there is a huge drop off. Most hot and good looking girls in general are in sororities in most of these places, outside of that, the quality is not all that great. Even then, you have to deal with a lot of dumb social politics that make bar game and most traditional game outside of social circle game ineffective.

(07-24-2018 12:52 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

I definitely agree about Columbus if we're just talking American cities. I've been to almost every major city on the east coast in the US and of the ones I've seen, I'd rank Columbus near the top of the list as a temporary home base to meet women. New York has hotter women, but for a young 20's guy, it's insanely expensive. Ohio is a cheaper part of the country and Columbus is still kind of in hush hush mode for the US where it hasn't gone mainstream, but definitely on the rise. For sports, it's run by Ohio St which means a lot of young women there, but also there's young professionals that commute into the city. It's basically a big circle of suburbs that are very easy to access with a car with a nice downtown in the middle for lesser sports, grabbing a drink, or commuting to work. The more I think about it, the more I wouldn't mind living in Columbus if I moved to another American city. I much prefer it to Cleveland and it's a great central hub of Ohio (though I'm a big fan of the state overall).

Agreed, it isn't at the stage that a city like Austin, TX is in where you have washouts from super blue states taking over and making them culturally like a San Francisco. I've always had a great experience with midwesterners and found the hot girls in the area to be very approachable compared to their counterparts on the coasts.

Midwestern women are very underrated when it comes to looks, arguably the best region in the US if you like white girls.

[chicane]

(07-25-2018 08:30 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Agreed, it isn't at the stage that a city like Austin, TX is in where you have washouts from super blue states taking over and making them culturally like a San Francisco. I've always had a great experience with midwesterners and found the hot girls in the area to be very approachable compared to their counterparts on the coasts.

Austin is a horrible place to be, particularly if you are a straight male.

Lubbock is the new hip, up and coming place to be these days.