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Meet The New She-Ra
#51

Meet The New She-Ra

"romance to bloom out of mere happenstance"

A woman's mindset is inherently passive and fatalistic. Historically, they could only wield soft-power, which to most women amounted to little more than a bit of body-english onto the overall trajectory of their lives.

I think in a feminist regime this passivity shifts over to a sense of entitment and soft-power shifts to social network lynch mobs (ala #MeToo). This shift is powered by a resentment of men as the root of their problems and disappointments in life when in fact there was never any good guy / bad guy here, just simple amoral biology.

The commonality is an avoidance of personal responsibility at all costs.

I don't know how a lesbian showrunner plays into the above or not. My daughter was once really into Steven Universe which is run by a woman who claims to be bi but is probably really just a lesbian. And I thought it was a good show up to the point where one of the thinly veiled lesbian alien gem characters gets the hots for a biker dyke with a lip-ring and then goes chasing after her. That's when the political agenda behind the show became waaaay too overt and creeptastic.
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#52

Meet The New She-Ra

I'm glad to hear someone finally use the word creepy. That really is what shows like Steven Universe and She Ra feels like. Creepy.
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#53

Meet The New She-Ra

Quote: (07-19-2018 10:38 AM)BlueResolute Wrote:  

I'm glad to hear someone finally use the word creepy. That really is what shows like Steven Universe and She Ra feels like. Creepy.

Not to hijack the thread but the problem with Steven Universe is the profound lack of male role-models. Steven's dad looks like Homer Simpson. He's a blue-pill loser and effectively a dead-beat dad for how little he has to do with his son. There isn't a single traditionally masculine role-model in the show.

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They say write what you know and Rebecca Sugar doesn't really know anything about a traditional male role model or why it might be a useful thing. So what you get instead are simple bad-ass warrior archetypes imposed on female characters (the gems).

It's likely that She-Ra will follow this Amazonian model where men are superfluous and women embody all the qualities of both men AND women. You know, "the future is female!"

This is an attractive worldview for girls to think they can have it all, but it really leaves boys out in the cold. Even though Steven is the hero, he is essentially being raised in a single mother style household and taught to be blue-pill. He doesn't go to school and really won't be able to function if he has to be an adult in the real world. His girlfriend Connie, on the other hand, does go to school and has learned to swordfight on top of it, so she's a far more well-rounded human-being than Steven is.

So much has been said about how a male-dominated Hollywood doesn't know how to write realistic women. The Bechtel test and all that. But when women build their own shows they have equal difficulty presenting convincing male characters. But this is really seen as more of a vanguard creative decision than a deficiency.
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#54

Meet The New She-Ra

Quote: (07-19-2018 10:54 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-19-2018 10:38 AM)BlueResolute Wrote:  

I'm glad to hear someone finally use the word creepy. That really is what shows like Steven Universe and She Ra feels like. Creepy.

Not to hijack the thread but the problem with Steven Universe is the profound lack of male role-models. Steven's dad looks like Homer Simpson. He's a blue-pill loser and effectively a dead-beat dad for how little he has to do with his son. There isn't a single traditionally masculine role-model in the show.

[Image: unknown-11.jpeg?w=1000]

They say write what you know and Rebecca Sugar doesn't really know anything about a traditional male role model or why it might be a useful thing. So what you get instead are simple bad-ass warrior archetypes imposed on female characters (the gems).

It's likely that She-Ra will follow this Amazonian model where men are superfluous and women embody all the qualities of both men AND women. You know, "the future is female!"

This is an attractive worldview for girls to think they can have it all, but it really leaves boys out in the cold. Even though Steven is the hero, he is essentially being raised in a single mother style household and taught to be blue-pill. He doesn't go to school and really won't be able to function if he has to be an adult in the real world. His girlfriend Connie, on the other hand, does go to school and has learned to swordfight on top of it, so she's a far more well-rounded human-being than Steven

So much has been said about how a male-dominated Hollywood doesn't know how to write realistic women. The Bechtel test and all that. But when women build their own shows they have equal difficulty presenting convincing male characters. But this is really seen as more of a vanguard creative decision than a deficiency.
I would say it's incredibly easy to write a woman.




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#55

Meet The New She-Ra

The show is out and the professional reviews are, as you'd expect, gushing in generic praise, and the comments under are dumpster-fires like this one from Entertainment Weekly.

An implausible 100% Rotten Tomatoes score either means that the professional reviewer class has completely ceded to SJWs, but the disconnect between it and the 68% user ratings is telling.

From what I hear, this show presents a world almost completely devoid of straight men (or feminine women), which is what a large group of people (including self-loathing cucks) see as a utopia.
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#56

Meet The New She-Ra

Quote: (11-17-2018 11:09 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

The show is out and the professional reviews are, as you'd expect, gushing in generic praise, and the comments under are dumpster-fires like this one from Entertainment Weekly.

Not surprising. From the hellsite known as tumblr, its seem the fandom from Voltron Legendary Defender has praised the new She Ra. A fandom that was willing to go after advertisers and defund a cartoon show for not putting their favorite relationship in the show. You thought it was dumpster fire now, just you wait when toxic fandom destroy the show.
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Quote: (07-17-2018 10:13 AM)Rotten Wrote:  

She Ra is He-Man's sister. She also murdered He-Man.

He Man was a best selling toy for 5 years in the 1980s. In 1986, He-Man had 400 million dollars of Toy Revenue, had a hit TV show, had several hundred million in liscencing fees, a movie in production, and was valued as a one billion dollar intellectual property.

The key to the success of He-Man was cynical corporate market research. This research told them that 5 year old boys hate being bossed around and feel powerless. He-Man's slogan was "I have the power," and this was repeated in the cartoon, toy packaging, and advertising.

Little boys could have the power with He-Man. Until they couldn't.

See, the He-Man toys were big sellers with girls too. About 20% of buyers of He-Man toys were for girls, and this 20% was such a big number that He-Man toys were a #1 girls toy, outselling Barbie. There were girl He-Man characters. The line was inclusive from the beginning, but all of the figures were really juiced plastic moulded figures, without a lot of the features in girls toys like outfits and brushable hair.

The toy executives saw the success of He man among girls and created the sister She-Ra for girls. She-Ra borrowed He-Man's slogan "I have the power," and borrowed the plots from He-Mans cartoon. But the She Ra dolls were 9 inches to He-Mans 5 1/2, and had pink unicorns, brushable hair, and changeable outfits.

Once little boys saw their little sisters shouting "I have the power," playing with girly pony unicorns, and She-Ra dolls that were so much bigger than He-Man ( that made He Man look like a wimp), boys abandoned He-Man in droves. Sales for He-Man fell off the cliff. He-Man didn't have the power any more, that was given to his sister.

And once boys stopped playing with He-Man, girls stopped playing with She-Ra. The extensive market research for boys was not done with girls. That market research would have told them that those girls were buying He-Man in large numbers to play with the boys, not because of the value of the toys themselves.

So, by killing the appeal of He-Man for boys (the power fantasy), they also killed He Man for girls. He-Man is toxic even in 2018, nobody can find buyers for it.

Disney's Star Wars changes were able to rapidly destroy Star Wars toy sales by similarly betraying the same audience. When Toys R Us died, it's shelves were full of 2-5 year old Star Wars toys that never sold.

The girls who watched "She-Ra" as a kid, watched "Tomb Raider" and supported the genre of "90 pound waifs beat up 300 pound wrestlers" As adults.

So, was She Ra ahead of its time, or just the toxic poison that destroyed 1 billion dollars of shareholder value? Powerful girls cartoons are mainstream these days. And will girls support a She-Ra who kind of looks like Disney's Tarzan?

That's deep, great post... and the whole thing has so many parallels outside of toys.

I'm imagining billions of dollars of shareholder value being destroyed in the corporate world by letting girls play with the boys and "having the power"...
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#58

Meet The New She-Ra

Meet the new He-Man, or should I say, soy-man.






Funny how on the one hand we have beefcake like Aquaman which seems to still celebrate traditional masculine ideals and then you have this open rebellion against it. Also this may be sort of a veiled diversity hire by not finding a blonde guy (as was Aquaman in its own way). Blonde is verboten (other than Brie Larson I guess) because of Nazi-aryan connotations.
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