[Ballr]

Donovan Sharpe practices this with his GF.

He mentions installing a mobile app that tracks her location, sms, camera, calls, and so on. The mantra is if she has nothing to hide and wants to build trust and prove herself to you, she'll be open to it.

I have 3 questions for you guys:

1.) What is your response if she wants you to install it too?

2.) Being territorial, do you think about how her parents would view this? Even though we have good intention, blue pill would think it's extreme and or parents in general because they are bias to side with their daughters

3.) Do any of you implement this and what are your thoughts?

[torridon747]

I'm not above putting a GPS in a girl's car. I haven't done it, there was 1 girl I wish I had though, because it bothered the fuck out of me when she broke up with me at 9pm on a Thursday while giving no real reason after 6 months. It wouldn't have stopped anything though.

However, mate guarding is unattractive as fuck. Even if you got that far you better be clandestine about it. I don't see much on plus side to letting a girl know you're doing it. If she really wants she'll just find a way around it "i left my phone at home today" or "i took a cab to work my car was acting funny". And if she sees you mate guarding like that she's probably more likely to get up to shenanigans anyway.

[jcardial]

(07-15-2018 01:41 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

I'm not above putting a GPS in a girl's car. I haven't done it, there was 1 girl I wish I had though, because it bothered the fuck out of me when she broke up with me at 9pm on a Thursday while giving no real reason after 6 months. It wouldn't have stopped anything though.

However, mate guarding is unattractive as fuck. Even if you got that far you better be clandestine about it. I don't see much on plus side to letting a girl know you're doing it. If she really wants she'll just find a way around it "i left my phone at home today" or "i took a cab to work my car was acting funny". And if she sees you mate guarding like that she's probably more likely to get up to shenanigans anyway.

Is this the same girl you wouldn't allow to go dancing with her friends even under the condition that you would be present. A girl's friends are obviously going to turn on you (and rightfully so in this case) once you start making excessive or unusual demands. It's pretty reasonable for a woman to want to dance or party a bit with her friends. Either go with her or just don't date (most) young girls if you can't compromise because absurd ultimatums will just massively increase the chance she dumps you or starts sneaking around.

If you request to install stuff on her phone you will also be deemed a Nazi by her friends. If a girl is getting drunk and regularly putting herself in precarious situations with slutty friends then don't date her. Most normal girls will have friends that look after her. Overly controlling demands will just guarantee that her friends heckle her until she dumps you. Not to mention it's human nature to want to do what you're being told you can't.

[torridon747]

Same one. And I agree with you on most points. Bottom line is though I want shit to be run the way I want shit to be run. If that doesn't work well, it manifests itself eventually as it clearly did. The obvious solution is to screen for girls that don't put themselves in bad situations.

Overt "controlling" behavior (IE, being dominant when it's inconvenient for the girl, a concept I find laughable) will turn the girl's friends and family against you. If you bring enough value to the table and keep your frame tight it will be a non-issue - being "controlling" just becomes having "boundaries". You know like not being alone with other men, or not getting sloshed going to clubs in a skimpy outfit and "dancing" with other men until 2am. The great part of having good frame and high value is that most women will respect these "boundaries" without much of a fight. Being the man on the other end of that scenario enough times might change the way you think about it. I'm at the point where I could give a fuck less about a girl cheating as it just means a hard next, I just don't want the embarrassment of having a girl out there running around when I've introduced her to friends family and business contacts. It's not something I'm will to risk nor can I afford. There's an obvious solution to that too, not introducing them to people that will think less of you should the aforementioned go down. Unfortunately after you're witt someone long enough introductions tend to happen organically and it becomes more of a pain to avoid than to just let happen.

[Supreme4ever]

What....... Installing a Tracker to know about one of my girl whereabouts. That screams major when oneitis and insecurity.

[Ballr]

Guys - I am talking about a long-term gal. We don't keep tabs on a girl we don't care about. I have NEVER considered something like this before. There's a difference between being a territorial and being insecure. If you know the true nature of a woman and you're invested, are you willing to risk whatever happens and just assume you have a good girl on your side? Yes she passes most red flags but will a little security hurt? There has to be someone on RvF to have done this

[Graft]

If you don't trust your girl, just be Machiavellian about it.

Act like you trust her, act like you don't care where she is, give her a kiss on the cheek before she leaves, and install the tracker to see if she steps out.

Controlling behavior like this is beta as fuck in a woman's eyes, but at the same time, you can't ever really trust them. Just don't ever let her find out that you're doing this to her. Too many negatives involved-she sees you as having scarcity, her girlfriends turn on you, her family hates you, she finds a way around the tracker with a burner phone.

Even if you're going to go ahead with this-it's much better that she doesn't know, you can easily catch her.

I'm all for getting ahead in the dating game by any means possible-so I'm not above doing this if there's significant investment and I think she's stepping out.

[Repo]

May as well convert to Islam and also have her cover her face if you this insecure

[debeguiled]

(07-15-2018 09:21 PM)Repo Wrote:  

May as well convert to Islam and also have her cover her face if you this insecure

Plenty of places to hide trackers in a burka.

[MPD]

Let's set aside morality and insecurity debates for now.

Practically, tracking would only work if she doesn't know about it as Graft mentioned. That includes covering your tracks so she doesn't find out later.

Which brings us to this simple fact: It's not worth it!

I get that you want to protect your investment. However, odds are she's not worth that investment If your gut instinct is nagging at you.

[cascadecombo]

You can't trust already. This wouldn't help.

[Rhyme or Reason]

If you feel the need to do this, the answer is to break up with her.

[Ballr]

(07-20-2018 03:19 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

If you feel the need to do this, the answer is to break up with her.

Everything is going smooth, I have no reason to even do it. I was just curious if anyone here implements it because Donovan Sharpe is a known redpill and he encourages it.

Not sure why everyone is screaming "insecurity" - that's taking the easy way. Calling it what it isn't.

Sounds like what most chicks say to deleting social media accounts. Not what I expected. I am not into extremism. Just brainstorming what the pros and cons are and if anyone else did it.

[EndsExpect]

This can create suspicion in yourself rather than solve your own insecurity issues. You would wind up wondering why she spent an extra 20 minutes at the nail salon. You also wind up feeling like a parole officer... and it sucks.

Give your woman space and see what she does with it. Learning to read women is a very important tool. If your gut tells you something is up... then it's time to use some kind of tracker.

I will also say this... if you own the phone she uses, then you have a right to put a location finder on it and monitor it's position. If you don't own her phone, then you must ask her permission.

[Supreme4ever]

A Tracker is for betas or major pimps to collect their money. Better yourself you better your w women.

[ADEBISIGARANA]

lame idea. Abudance mentality why you need a tracker for one ho? when you got a heavy harem of sluts tracking you for the D! flip the script hombre.