[Long Haired Samson]

Another example why feminism is complete and utter hogwash and ruins women. LOL. I never watched this show.

[Kona]

That's Chelsea from Southern Charm. She was banging Austen, but him and my man Shep Rose got in a tiff. Shep hit that too. Its also rumored that T-Rav was up in that ass, but Cameran started that rumor, and you know her, always stirring the pot.

Aloha!

[Donfitz007]

My favorite example of this was in the naked and afraid special where they got 6 of the guys who won and 6 of the girls who won (i think) one girl was even a vegan

The girls were lazy and an inch away from quitting until the men found them.
The vegan girl was pretty much pointless as she ate fruits and didn't help with water shelter or food.
The men had this brotherhood that kept them going and even when the strongest woman out the group joined them the dynamic suffered.


Or the Bear Grylls island show where the girls sucked soooo bad at surviving that the producers gave them 3 pigs, a can of soup and all types of other supplies that so happened to "wash up" on the beach.


shows like this motivated me to work on my survival skills and leadership

[mikado]

Survivor is my bread and butter. I watch every season.

One world (season 24) is universally recognized as a low tier season. Men fought between each other, the women made a pact to stick together. As soon as men were a minority, they got voted off. The season was won by the alpha female who controlled every bit of the camp mode, and competitions.
Actually it's a classic on survivor. Early on the alpha males take control and provide for everyone. Then later at the tribe merge, they are picked off for "being too strong". And women usually stick together at that point. To survive the onslaught, the guys have to remain in the middle, and not provide too much.

Personally I usually root for the alpha males, so I am very disappointed when the providers get voted off.



On the contrary, when the tribe were divided by gender in season 9, the same scenario happened until there was 6 women and the last man standing. Promised a departure in the next two eliminations, he managed to make the women cannibalize each other, allied with the physically week women, voted off the young and fit women, won the last two immunities against two old and weak women, then bullshitted in final tribal council and made the fit women he betrayed vote for him to win the game (1 million bucks), by doing something as smooth as bringing the hat that one of the girls left at camp.

Actually that is great textbook alpha. Uniting with his "fat and old" pals early game to vote off ruthlessly the young brawny and cocky guys of his tribe (gaming with a similar crew can increase the group's strength), getting betrayed by the women at the merge, but exploiting their empathy to have them spare him for one vote (where he flips the game ),eliminating the two biggest alpha females (cockblocks), allying with people who would not be of any threat to him (finding wingmen who won't cockblock you), then winning at the crucial moment when the target is hesitating between you and another one, by making her feel a connection with you.

Survivor is a very good show about male/female dynamics. Season 9 is my favorite season, and I adopted several social concepts from there, like: do not take all the place when you just meet a group.

Don't isolate yourself too much. Otherwise you will just be rejected soon by the group.

Early hours/days of meeting: just chill, do not stand out too much, just a bit is good.

Making girls feel confortable with you is a very good way to deflect threats from other guys. They run the social life.

Even when someone is not an ally, just talk to them, if possible about them. That might pay off later if you need support in numbers.

Have a core group of friends, and never forget that there is always a competition within a group, as small as it is.

Bond with women emotionally, and you can get away with betrayal. They will still love you.

Exploit women's jealousy of their sisterhood. Lie to everyone of them, but smoothly.

Listen to women and make them feel like they are listened, even if you don't give a shit.

And finally: don't hesitate to show your emotional side, but scarcely, and only after your physical and emotional strength have been already proven.

[MajorStyles]

There was a chap awhile back that wrote an article about going to a Rainbow Gathering (I believe it was on ROK). At any rate, the trip concluded with all the women congregating around the Alpha male as he collected wood, made fires, and constructed living quarters. Dude had a soft harem going in the Oregon woods with a bunch a women who, right before the trip, were pro-Hillary feminazis. In short, it was the same outcome as this episode of "Survivor," by and large.

Nature has a way of revealing realities and casting aside the "feel good" philosophies of bourgeois thinking.

[questor70]

(07-11-2018 06:40 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

Nature has a way of revealing realities and casting aside the "feel good" philosophies of bourgeois thinking.

And in nature there is no "voting off". So it's survival of the fittest.

[Foolsgo1d]

In a real survival scenario or life and death this democracy bullshit of voting with your friends only works if you have weapons and the desire to use them. Even a single person with a gun can turn a group to do their bidding.

[mikado]

In Survivor that power is linked to winning individual immunity (no one can vote you off for that round but you can vote for someone else). Usually the majority will follow the person who has won immunity, except if they are in a huge minority.

For example (at least before season 35), when you have 4 people left (final council is composed of 3 people), then usually two of the three who do not have immunity will just do what the winner of immunity wants.

I seriously recommend you guys to watch Survivor. Season 7 (Pearl Islands) is excellent for a start. You have a real life pirate, guys who drop their shorts in solidarity for their teammate whose pants are ruines, iconic beefs between characters, betrayals, the biggest lie in history of reality TV (at the time), etc.

[DonnyGately]

If a woman is running your social life, you've clearly fucked something up big time.

[yankeetravels]

I'm a die hard Survivor fan and think this is the best show about human social dynamics I've ever seen. This and Big Brother are two of the more redpill social dynamics shows out there. Big Brother emphasizes a frat bro environment where the alpha males thrive usually. Survivor, it's a little tougher to be the alpha male because the game is more centered around votes than who wins competitions like Big Brother.

Season 36 was an interesting one to test out alpha male theories. Two players I thought the forum would be interested in are Wendell and Dom. I would consider these guys two of the best alpha males to ever play. The rare thing that happened this season was that the two alpha males took charge of the tribe, nipped threats in the butt immediately, and both had hidden immunity idols which made the other quite frankly weaker players afraid to target them. Part of what fascinated me about Wendell and Dom were that they had different ways of being alpha. Dom went for more of the direct hits and was a little abrasive to get people to do what he wanted. But, he took the lead of the two to knock out their biggest threats. When female allies wanted to go another direction, Dom never gave into them and basically forced the girls to pull his agenda and essentially dared them to make a move against the duo with two idols, which in all likelihood results in one of the girls to go home. As for Wendell, he did a brilliant job of always maintaining frame in conversations when the pressure was up. He was alpha in that he got what he wanted without backing down to anyone while keeping face. Basically he kept his cards close to his chest.

This season was a big example of what happens when you have the two strongest people work together against the weaker players. Some players included Kellyn and Laurel, who were beta females that always gave into a dominant and strong presence, Sebastian who was kind of an empty-headed surfer bro. He was athletic and well liked, but he didn't know how to play the frame/strategic game like Wendell and Dom. Basically, he had no idea how to put himself as the top dog. Then there was Donathan, who was a beta male that never had the guts to make a big move despite talking a lot of shit.

One other thing. The first two people voted out were the hottest girl because everyone was afraid of how manipulative a hot girl can be along with how easy it is to wrap people under her finger, then the second guy voted out was a beta male who pretty much was upfront about looking out for himself.

I'll try to find some good redpill videos from survivor to post here, there's some good moments.

[yankeetravels]

Here's some examples of some good redpill moments from the show:

1. Erik gives up immunity in the final 5 because the four girls left tricked him by guilting him emotionally. This is the equivalent of a western expat buying a house in Thailand and putting it in the girl's name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfJh_f4Cb8M

2. Boston Rob- the Godfather of Survivor. He's probably the most famous alpha male player with charisma in the show's history. He gets away with blunt and strong frame actions that benefit him because he's charming and a decent looking dude. For context in this trailer, this was his fourth time playing with rookies. He's in his mid 30's and married, yet still charms the hot 20-year-old girls more than the 20's guys do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y4pOp-XrTw

3. Yul had an overpowered hidden immunity idol at the time. He used it in a minority position to flip Penner (the bearded older white guy), take control of the game, and went on to win by holding frame and telling Penner they're voting him out if he doesn't flip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og60dIGQzQs

4. Brandon gave up his immunity necklace to a guy that was basically not a true friend and quite honestly, a guy that had a reputation of being a parasite. This is an example of nice guys finishing last and trusting people out to fuck you from a mile away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBd-tyssE0Q

Plenty more examples but the ones above are two of what to do and two not to do in life.

[hedonist]

Russel Hantz always had a small harem of women following him around.

People can hate on women contestants on these survival shoes (the island for example is fair) but in alone and naked and afraid some of the women leave the men in the dust. Some make me embarised to see what men have become

[DarkTriad]

(07-13-2018 12:13 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Russel Hantz always had a small harem of women following him around.

People can hate on women contestants on these survival shoes (the island for example is fair) but in alone and naked and afraid some of the women leave the men in the dust. Some make me embarised to see what men have become

How much of this is choreographed? If men are dominating, SJWs have no problem creating circumstances to fit their narrative.

[captain_shane]

(07-13-2018 12:36 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 12:13 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Russel Hantz always had a small harem of women following him around.

People can hate on women contestants on these survival shoes (the island for example is fair) but in alone and naked and afraid some of the women leave the men in the dust. Some make me embarised to see what men have become

How much of this is choreographed? If men are dominating, SJWs have no problem creating circumstances to fit their narrative.

Fan favorites get helped out sometimes men or women, but overall I don't think there's much interference in Survivor.

Survivor is an excellent show, always changing things each season, but ultimately it's same thing. Social skills and the ability to understand what motivates people.

Russell Hantz who was mentioned is actually a pretty good example of being too alpha. The guy was a brilliant strategist, but has significant flaws to his game.

I would highly recommend people on here watch the show. It's pretty fantastic to see how people react to each other, and how people lie/manipulate. It usually always goes back to old caveman "men provide, women cook and clean" routines.

It's probably the greatest idea for a game ever made. Vote off the people that you ultimately hope will write you a check for a million dollars at the end.

Best personality to win this game is Sigma by far in my opinion. If you try and go beast mode alpha, people will vote you out because they're afraid you'll dominate challenges. Beta's rarely win because the women don't like them. If you have game, you can win this show.

This dude Brian was the best winner ever in my opinion. Guy was a used car salesman who charmed the pants off the old ladies and used the guys as pawns. Master class player.




Oh, and it's pretty fun watching the women run around.

[Rotten]

Warning: Slightly OT effortpoast ahead.

The Princeton mathematician Nash, of whom the movie “A Beautiful Mind” is about, invented a game that he named “Threat.” Jeff Probst said that the rules of Survivor are based on “Threat.” He’s full of shit but the games are similar.

The Rules of Threat are simple. Each player gets a number from one to 10. The game is set into turns, and each turn the group will vote one player out. At the end of the game, the player with the higher number wins.

As a mathematician and a logician, there is no way to “prove” who will win “Threat.” Any of the players except #1 can win. But, Nash had grad students, strangers, and people who knew each other play the game many many times, and he observed something that he set out to prove with math: the lower numbered players 2, 3, 4, 5 usually and almost always won.

See, to win “Threat,” every player has to both eliminate all of the players higher than them, but also keep one player lower than them still around. It’s basically the same as Survivor once players start going to jury. The only difference is immunity idols which don’t change things that much until players start winning multiple idols. Once there is a jury, there is also a pecking order.

Nash noted that the lowest ranked player, #1 at the start of the game, can’t win and therefore can do whatever he wants. He also noted the highest ranked player, #10, can’t lose and can also do whatever, although everyone but #1 will always have an incentive to vote him off. The called the highest and lowest ranked players the Goat, and the Bunny.

Nash proved that the winner of Threat will always have the support of the Goat at the end and will have the indirect support of the bunny(or bunnies as the position gets changed for most of the game (or is himself the bunny).

The winners of Threat will vote out bunnies and goats until they have this support. (Of course, voting out Goats is hard, because nobody has an incentive to vote out players that they can actually beat)

So the winners of Survivor are mostly horrible people, or at least players that are low on Roosh’s sexual market value rankings. Once in a while an alpha male will change things up, but the alpha males and pretty young girls are almost always “shocking” early boots. The worst antisocial goats also get themselves booted off early, but once they get to jury are overwhelming favorites to be the loser in the final jury vote.

Survivor also has some power players that “Threat” does not have: (1) Integrity-cucks who will hand over a million dollars to a stranger before they break their word, and (2) players who play not to win but to stay on TV as long as possible.

But as an observer, you can pretty much tell who is winning by spotting the goat, the bunny, and the nonplayers. Whoever they favor will win. The last season of Survivor featured a legitimate alpha male (but he was black on a mostly white cast) and a charismatic talker (who was the old man on a young cast) in the final vote. It was very unusual to have two middle or high ranked contestants in the finals (they were carried by the goat, the bunnies and by multiple immunity idols). Before them, a string of nerds (low, but not lowest, SMV players) were winning.

USA Big Brother, while similar, is a little more interesting. The HoH can set up nominations of low ranked players where most of the House is agnostic as to the outcome. (If #10 nominates #1 and #3, then #2 has to vote to save #1 in order to win, but the rest of the House can vote either way). The same race to the bottom happens in Big Brother, and the string of nerds has been winning recent Big Brother seasons. Last season featured a final of an unintelligent goon winning over a player who went out of his way to be nasty to other people.

Survivor One World had female dysfunction and male contribution. But dysfunction actually makes you favored to win Threat and Survivor, and it was no surprise that the lesbian who had the favor of the worst performing women and the nonplayers was able to vote out (1) first the men who had to compete against each other, and then (2) the higher SmV ranking women who the men could get along with.

[Rotten]

@captain Shane

Survivor Brian was the best. He had his nonplayer, goat and bunny support locked down.

He also had a wife who was in playboy TV / Cinemax movies. After a whole game of playing a down-on-his-luck Everyman used car salesman, his silicone enhanced Playboy model wife pops up at the family visit and nearly blows the game for him. The damage control he had to do was hilarious.