[Mage]

I am willing to bet 100 dollars that in the Hollywood movie made based on this this incident will have a team of diverse divers including at least one woman. That's despite the actual team having no female divers.

The boys will probably be asian looking alright, but most of the divers, definitely the main characters, will be white/black to make the movie understandable for western audiences.

[Transsimian]

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[thoughtgypsy]

(07-15-2018 08:47 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Just a reminder Elon Musk wasnt even the original founder of Tesla even though he portrays himself that way.

This is a bit off topic, but to expand on that: It was founded by 2 guys who had the knowledge and motivation to start a grassroots car company. They started out (if I'm remembering this right) with a plan of making lower-end EVs based on existing platforms, swapping out the powertrains with an electric one, to preclude a lot of the compliance testing that would be necessary.

They approached Musk during a Mars Society meeting (a group of scientists and investors that routinely meet to discuss ways of colonizing Mars), and he agreed to raise funding for the project. Eventually the original founders got bought out, and later both were asked to finally resign.

The company approach shifted from entry level to premium, and they've had issues trying to break into the lower end at the right price point. Too much over-promising and under-delivering. I think Musk overestimated the demand for and maturity of this technology and has been in damage control mode for a while. Compare this to SpaceX, which builds off of a mature technology, and utilizes the expertise of skilled professionals in the aerospace field.

Years ago, I was friends with a guy who had a group dinner with Musk, and he described him as an egotistical, thin-skinned dweeb. It sounds accurate based on his tweets from the past few months. Not trying to throw salt on the wounds here, but it's also important to realize our limitations and to be careful not to follow false prophets. He would've been fine if he stuck to being the public figure for SpaceX and used his hyping talents to raise funds for a beneficial and profitable enterprise. He should take it as an opportunity to learn from and gain some humility.

It's really a shame that he took it on himself to criticize the divers who saved the lives of others. These guys are real life heroes, who risked their lives at the mere chance of saving those who were powerless to change their situation. Full stop. While it's unfortunate that people can still find something negative in what's one of the most positive stories to come out of the news in years, let's not let it tarnish what happened here.

It's a reminder for us to honor those who walk the walk instead of talk the talk. Usually the heroes are the ones who shy from the spotlight and get on with their duty without praise. Cheers to those brave souls out there.

[Beyond Borders]

^ Also, regardless of whether or not Musk's "submarine" would have worked or not, the practical method the divers came up with, putting the kids in those bags and giving them oxygen and multiple divers to pull them out sedated, just seemed to make a lot more sense to me.

Why design and test some entirely new contraption for the job when you can do something like that?

Of course, I don't fault the guy for trying to help, and good on him. But dismissing the refusal to use his sub as the government and divers being ignorant also seems pretty arrogant.

Their method may have been simpler and less flashy, but it also seemed to make more common sense overall.

[CaptainChardonnay]

Keep it simple stupid

[TravelerKai]

Elon Musk accusing someone else of being a faggot? How rich.

Just when you thought he could not get any gayer than he already is.

[Matsufubu]

Well this is coming true...

[TravelerKai]

(07-16-2018 01:45 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Well this is coming true...

Dat Cannibalism!

The liberal retard deserves it too.

[questor70]

(07-16-2018 12:06 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

Years ago, I was friends with a guy who had a group dinner with Musk, and he described him as an egotistical, thin-skinned dweeb. It sounds accurate based on his tweets from the past few months. Not trying to throw salt on the wounds here, but it's also important to realize our limitations and to be careful not to follow false prophets.

I'm coming to that conclusion as well. I got really sucked into his vortex but his arrogance has a cost besides his public image, as it's the reason Model 3 production hell happened and continues to happen. He's wasted more money making mistakes at Tesla than entire countries have in GDP. How many people are privileged enough to throw that kind of cash into an incinerator? And we're supposed to look at him in the same light as a Steve Jobs? A shining beacon of american ingenuity? He really should have been replaced as CEO by now at Tesla if there were proper checks and balances. He belongs at SpaceX only.

(07-16-2018 12:30 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

dismissing the refusal to use his sub as the government and divers being ignorant also seems pretty arrogant.

The fact everyone got out of the cave alive (except for the one diver) means the only reason for Musk being bitter is butthurt.

It's not a good look to appear butthurt. It comes across as childish. Behind every arrogant man is a mountain of insecurity.

He's got enough high profile projects that a gesture like this should not be seen on his part as a litmus test of his worth.

I really think the guy is always operating on the verge of a complete nervous breakdown and will probably wind up dead or in heavy therapy to work out his issues. Maybe he can get a room next to Johnny Depp and share Amber Heard stories.

[Richard Turpin]

As the story comes to a close, there's room for one more twist as the soccer team and coach become Buddhist monks (as you do) in order to show their gratitude for their rescue, and the diver who died for them.

Quote:

MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) - The young soccer teammates and their coach who were rescued after being trapped in a cave in northern Thailand were ordained Wednesday at a Buddhist temple, a merit-making activity to show thanks for their rescue.

The 11 boys, ages 11 to 16, became Buddhist novices in a religious ceremony, while their 25-year-old coach was ordained as a monk. One boy did not participate because he isn't Buddhist.

The full story;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/arti...emple.html





I've never been to Thailand and may be being naive, but I gotta say I envy them their pride in their history and culture. Coming from the corpse of the decadent West these kids are way richer than they know.

As an aside, the kids only got out of hospital last week! Tough, resilient people.

[Beyond Borders]

^ I think this means only the coach actually became a monk for the long-term, if even that - I think that's why they specifically stated he'll be ordained as a monk. The article seems to deliberately fail to fully explain that the boys will kind of "play" the role of monk as "novices" for a couple weeks or so, if I remember correctly, and go back to living a regular life. In this case the kids may even just be ordained for the ceremony.

It is actually common for most Thai males to do this at least once in their life to win "merit" for their parents.

Quote:

It is an expectation across the country that EVERY Thai male will become a monk for at least a short period in their life.

This practice, much like compulsory military service in countries like South Korea, usually occurs between the completion of school and the beginning of a career or marriage. It is not unusual however for males under the age of 20 to ‘take robe and bowl’ as novices, because a family earns great merit when a son becomes a monk.

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The time spent in a wat is traditionally supposed to last for three months and take place during the Buddhist version of lent that begins in July and coincides with the monsoon season.

Nowadays. however. most men spend as little as a week in the temple in order to accrue merit as a monk.

It's heart warming to see the traditions still alive; unfortunately, as the article might suggest, many young Thai men don't take it all too seriously and kind of go through the motions for their parents (not that I'm suggesting the kids don't mean it this time). In fact I run with a lot of Thai guys and other than putting on a good show they don't take much of what Buddhism has to say at all seriously.

In any case, there's, sadly, a lot of hypocrisy and lack of depth in modern Thai Buddhism that is a bit sad to behold if you scratch below the glittering gold foil surface. Lack of depth is in fact a common criticism of the Thai psyche overall, especially in modern times.

I got to give respect to the coach if he did convert fully to monkhood over this out of respect for a life he no doubt felt somewhat responsible for ending, though. Big move; although, mixed public opinion certainly could have played enough of a role to make it a wise decision on multiple fronts.

Anyhow, commendable show of respect and gratitude from all involved. I'm sure in this case the gesture is extremely genuine and heartfelt.

[Going strong]

The valiant Thai kids from the cave, have received a very warm welcome a few hours ago in Buenos Aires: they were special guests of Honor at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games of the Youth, plus they got to play a game of football against River Plate's youth team.

https://www.infobae.com/america/deportes...-juventud/

"Durante el discurso del alemán Thomas Bach, presidente del Comité Olímpico Internacional (COI), en la ceremonia de apertura de los Juegos Olímpicos de la Juventud, hubo un momento muy emotivo. Los 12 niños que junto con su entrenador de fútbol tuvieron en vilo al mundo entero al quedar atrapados en una cueva al norte de Tailandia recibieron un conmovedor homenaje.

"Todos recordamos a aquel grupo de valientes jóvenes tailandeses que estuvo atrapado durante 17 días en una cueva. Los miembros del equipo de fútbol 'Jabalíes Salvajes' demostraron la importancia de estos valores deportivos, por ello los hemos invitados a venir aquí para compartir su experiencia con otros jóvenes atletas. ¡Bienvenidos!", dijo Bach.

Todos los presentes aplaudieron eufóricamente a los pequeños que presenciaron el acto de apertura en una grada, y agradecieron el cariño agachándose con las manos juntas en ritual religioso.
"

Video below:
https://twitter.com/OlympicCh_es/status/...9395136512

[Horus]

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/handc...e324266d30

It turns out that the kids were sedated with ketamine before the rescue, and were completely unconscious throughout. They also had their hands handcuffed behind their backs in case they regained consciousness and tried to take off their face mask.

[Repo]

(01-20-2019 10:42 PM)Horus Wrote:  

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/handc...e324266d30

It turns out that the kids were sedated with ketamine before the rescue, and were completely unconscious throughout. They also had their hands handcuffed behind their backs in case they regained consciousness and tried to take off their face mask.

Wow. I think that speaks to the incredible dangerousness of the rescue. No room at all for error with a freakout from one of the kids.

[scotian]

I’ve been in a couple of K-holes in my life but never a hand cuffed, air masked, stuck in a cave K-hole, gnarly!

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(01-21-2019 02:24 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I’ve been in a couple of K-holes in my life but never a hand cuffed, air masked, stuck in a cave K-hole, gnarly!

I've never attempted to give cunnilingus to a fat woman either.