[Saweeep]

The reason is economic.

I remember the 80s...there were still rubble sites in the centre of the town I grew up in from WW2 German bombs, 40 years earlier. Britain was in bad shape economically. Frankly, the country was fucked.

Skin heads was a purely working-class-pride subculture. They were rebellious naughty boys but certainly not criminals.

The working class as we knew it pre 1990s no longer exists.


I don't believe education or crime has any bearing on the rise or fall of the skin head movement. Kids just grow up and the next generation moves in the opposite direction.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Uh-oh the Sargon-Ukip offensive did not go over well:

Sargon isn't that bad - except of course when he accused Metokur of child grooming, which is just nuts.

But he should have known that the media is going to take apart all his comments and voila:

Quote:

‘Racist’ troll who sent rape tweet addresses Ukip members

I had to laugh at this, because it's so bizarre:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/racis...-8tdvlp6qj



And that is a fucking London Times article.

They dug out of course his comments of "You are acting like a bunch of White Ni***rs" and when faced with a guy having sex at age 12 saying "it depends on the child".

Obviously all those comments are of course innocent just as Jim Metokur is not child grooming anyone just because he had younger Youtubers who were cooperating with him (Metokur wanted to become a school teacher, but got blackpilled to the educational gulag earl on, but there are guys out there who like to shape the minds of younger snots - I think that he could be a great teacher and funny).

Anyway - of course the media would attack Sargon - he goes against social justice, against feminism, is against Islam and mass migration. He is not vetted from above, they are going to try to bury you just as they tried to bury PewDiPie just because he is not top-down approved and may go rogue one day.

They hate you almost as much as they hate Identitarians and Sargon did not understand that.

And Sargon is now looking for a lawyer to sue The Times - the times just called him a racist troll (slippery slope term - anyone can be racist) and just quoted him mostly - sure it's out of context, but those were his words.

It's really funny and I guess the Alt-Lite takeover of UKIP may be coming to a close.

[Teedub]

Pretty much done with Farage, just another establishment figure nowadays. Maybe he always was?

[godfather dust]

(09-25-2018 01:04 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Pretty much done with Farage, just another establishment figure nowadays. Maybe he always was?

Yeah, Brexit with unfettered Muslim immigration... Why bother? Wow, you are now allowing a flood of Arab's and African's WITHOUT the EUs help, awesome!

Is that what people voted for? Didn't seem like it.

[RedPillUK]

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Tommy Robinson will have no more power than anyone here as a mere member of UKIP.

[Longshanks]

He is the symbol UKIP needs. He has galvanised so much nationalist energy. We need a movement that's prepared to speak up and be radical.

[godfather dust]

(09-25-2018 02:29 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Tommy Robinson will have no more power than anyone here as a mere member of UKIP.

If you are going with "UKIP will never win an election" name a single reason not to make Tommy the head of the damn party.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

UKIP sounds ever more like a third safety valve for the same globalist steamroll. It was never meant to change anything fundamentally.

[Teedub]

They're not a safety valve as such, though the MSM etc want them to be. Tommy coming on board has the potential to completely galvanise working class support, something the powers that be are terrified of.

[Leonard D Neubache]

You can always trust politicians to be slimy scumbags that will talk about governing for the people and then enrich themselves in the shadows instead. I don't think anything will ever change that. The only people that are attracted to politics are generally emotionally stunted control freaks anyway, easily manipulated, extorted or bought by much smarter businessmen.

This insanity has proved to me why the only relevant political factors in any system are the right to bear arms and freedom of speech.

The only thing that keeps politicians even half way honest is the fear of being revealed (speech) and the fear of being lynched (arms).

All the other bullshit. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of it. Fucking irrelevant.

Guns and speech are all that really matters.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Wow - I wonder if Nigel Farage was always a super-cuck - his only shtick being to get out of the EU:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/ukip-...h-part-two

Quote:

At a recent dinner of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), which he formerly headed, Farage said: “If dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose….We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

Good luck with that Nigel - the religion of Islam does not bend to your "integration utopia". Indians had to cast out many Muslims and created Pakistan for them, because "integration" was not working. Show me one country where a 40%+ Muslim population is "integrating" into the basic tribe - and Singapore does not count - they split partly because of wanting to escape Islam.

And no - we would not lose with a conflict with Islam - even a hot one. If the Muslims thought that we would lose, then they would have attacked by now and would be busy raping Nigel Farage's daughters.

[Richard Turpin]

^^
Jeez, that's disappointing. He would have been better off retiring from politics altogether if this is how he really thinks. All he's doing now is slowly undoing all the earlier good he achieved.

[Teedub]

Some developments:

Quote:

Dear Fellow UKIP Member,

Tommy Robinson - Your Party, Your Decision

As you will know, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, commonly known as Tommy Robinson, has expressed his wish to join UKIP.

It is my personal view that we should allow him to join. This is also the view of Lord Pearson, UKIP Member of the House of Lords, and many other Party members.

UKIP has provisions in our Constitution which state that former members of certain proscribed parties and organisations are excluded from membership. The proscribed list currently includes the BNP, the National Front, and the English Defence League (EDL). Tommy Robinson was briefly a member of the BNP and was the founder of the EDL.

He explains his brief membership of the BNP as an uninformed youthful mistake. He further explains that the EDL, which he founded, was not a racist or far-right organisation under his leadership. He left it when it was infiltrated by elements he could not control.

The UKIP Constitution also has a provision (4.4.1) that allows the rule to be set aside in individual cases in “exceptional circumstances”, subject to the decision of the Chairman and the National Executive Committee.

At the next NEC meeting on Sunday 18th November, I intend to propose the following motion:

“There should be a ballot of the UKIP members asking if they approve, Yes, or No, of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) being allowed to join UKIP. This ballot should take place at the earliest opportunity, e.g. in the next edition of Independence Magazine.

“If a majority of Party members vote in favour of the proposition, then the Chairman and NEC will consider his application at the NEC meeting following the result of the ballot. They will then make the decision whether to waive the relevant rule or not based on a majority vote of the NEC.”

Let me say without reservation that I do not wish to remove the provision against former members of proscribed parties being allowed to join UKIP. I want to keep this blanket ban in place as it protects us from wholesale infiltration by unwanted elements.

The reason that Lord Pearson and I, along with many others in the Party wish to waive the rule in Tommy Robinson’s favour is that we consider his case exceptional and unique. Lord Pearson and I believe that he would be an asset to the Party. He is a courageous campaigner on behalf of the victims of industrialised sexual slavery in the UK, and it is not an exaggeration to say that he has been persecuted by the state for the stand he has taken on certain issues.

UKIP now has the possibility to transform into a mass movement, representing ordinary people. To do that we have to make some bold and sometimes difficult decisions.

Whichever way the members vote I will abide by their democratic decision. This is YOUR Party, and you must make this decision; but, in my view, this is an issue that I think needs to be settled soon, one way or another.

I will inform you of the outcome of the motion following next Sunday’s NEC meeting.

Yours sincerely,

Gerard Batten MEP
UKIP Leader

Some "far right" cucking, but it's necessary for optics. I mean, they'll call us far right anyway, but at least with statements like the above UKIP has plausible deniability. Think the time is coming though for us to stop playing by the left's rules. Simply say "yeah I am far right, so what?", then the words are stripped of their power.

I'll be very excited to see what Tommy does with UKIP if he gets in. He'll be the de facto leader (or at least figurehead) due to his mass appeal among the white working class. The country is nearly ready for Tommy's ideas, and he'll push that overton window further rightward. I wouldn't want guys like Mark Collett in government (he's a totalitarian, amongst other things), but I do think they should have a platform and voice, since they speak up for the values of the native European population who currently don't have a voice (unless they're leftists). The demographic problems can be tackled once Islamisation has been thwarted, and we should get Martin Sellner involved in that discussion when the time arises, since he's friends with Tommy. Of course, I don't think UKIP are going to be elected any time soon, but small steps.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Most people are sheep, but if a preferable alternative flock gains enough numbers that the newcomers can hide in the middle for a while then they may bolt for it, in ever increasing numbers.

This is why the governments of the West have been so desperate to cull down the numbers in those alternative flocks. Once they reach a critical mass they will grow exponentially until a battle to shift the national paradigm becomes inevitable.

I think this was a part of the reason why the IRA was a thorn in England's side for so long. When a resistance movement gets large enough that the members can choose to functionally live among their own people and normalize their beliefs it becomes extremely difficult to break that movement down again. We can see that in the no-go zones growing all over Europe.

[Yatagan]

(09-23-2018 05:36 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Uh-oh the Sargon-Ukip offensive did not go over well:

Sargon isn't that bad - except of course when he accused Metokur of child grooming, which is just nuts.

But he should have known that the media is going to take apart all his comments and voila:

Quote:

‘Racist’ troll who sent rape tweet addresses Ukip members

I had to laugh at this, because it's so bizarre:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/racis...-8tdvlp6qj



And that is a fucking London Times article.

They dug out of course his comments of "You are acting like a bunch of White Ni***rs" and when faced with a guy having sex at age 12 saying "it depends on the child".

Obviously all those comments are of course innocent just as Jim Metokur is not child grooming anyone just because he had younger Youtubers who were cooperating with him (Metokur wanted to become a school teacher, but got blackpilled to the educational gulag earl on, but there are guys out there who like to shape the minds of younger snots - I think that he could be a great teacher and funny).

Anyway - of course the media would attack Sargon - he goes against social justice, against feminism, is against Islam and mass migration. He is not vetted from above, they are going to try to bury you just as they tried to bury PewDiPie just because he is not top-down approved and may go rogue one day.

They hate you almost as much as they hate Identitarians and Sargon did not understand that.

And Sargon is now looking for a lawyer to sue The Times - the times just called him a racist troll (slippery slope term - anyone can be racist) and just quoted him mostly - sure it's out of context, but those were his words.

It's really funny and I guess the Alt-Lite takeover of UKIP may be coming to a close.

Here's Metokur watching Sargoon getting his shit kicked in by a feminist and a male associate of hers.

[Teedub]

Quote:

Dear Member,

Today, the UKIP NEC were presented with a motion proposed by our Leader, Gerard Batten to consider a ballot to members to allow the membership of Tommy Robinson.

The NEC voted to defer the motion in light of the recent Brexit negotiations. The NEC passed the following motion:

"As the focus of the Party must be on Brexit and as Brexit has this week reached a crucial juncture, any question of Tommy Robinson’s membership should he apply, should be deferred to the first NEC meeting after 29th March 2019."

This motion was accepted by a majority vote and will be added to the agenda as described in the motion.

I'm pretty gutted about this, obviously the higher ups, Batten aside, are basically the same as cuck Tories. It'll change, but it'll have to wait until March/April 2019, when the membership will overwhelmingly vote to allow him to join. It's quite pathetic it's being given this much thought. Just let him in you fucking stupid cunts—he'll breathe incredible new life into the boomer-dominated party.

[Teedub]

Whilst not a formal member (yet), Tommy has been appointed Special Personal Advisor on Rape Gangs and Prison Conditions and Prison Reform by Gerard Batten. Small steps, my crackas.

[Richard Turpin]

(11-22-2018 02:51 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Whilst not a formal member (yet), Tommy has been appointed Special Personal Advisor on Rape Gangs and Prison Conditions and Prison Reform by Gerard Batten. Small steps, my crackas.

Sad to hear Farage come out attacking this so strongly. He was all over the news this morning calling slagging TR off.

I don't get why figureheads on the right, can't just get along, it really frustrates and puzzles me. If you were to draw a list of all the big hitters and how they connect (or don't) to each other, it'd be a fractured mess.

[Teedub]

Because Farage is a narcissistic, self-serving tosser who was only ever in politics for his own ego. He's not even on the right, not in the new, modern sense anyway, apart from nominally opposing globalism. The moment he called Anne-Marie Waters racist and virtue signalled while doing so was the moment I started really not liking the bloke. Fuck him, he's not even remotely on our side. He's pro-mass immigration of third worlders from the commonwealth countries and against Poles and other white Europeans. I mean, if you're going to have mass immigration no matter what, I know who I'd rather.

[Longshanks]

Fuck Farage. Batten is the man.

[Teedub]

(11-23-2018 03:53 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

I don't get why figureheads on the right, can't just get along, it really frustrates and puzzles me.

Because many of them are still trying to get a pat on the head from the left. To gain approval, meanwhile the left doesn't care what their opponents think. If you got Farage in a room on his own without recording equipment and explained why immigration from the third world is bad, he'd probably agree, yet continue to push the same stuff as he currently does when in public.

[N°6]

I’ve always said: if you’re ever knifed, it will more likely be from the right under darkness than from the left unless it can knife you with the safety of numbers.

[N°6]

Richard Turpin, the so-called Right is the anti-thesis of the Hegelian dialectic. It’s been this way since the French Revolution. The Left is the thesis. They need each other to keep the pendulum swinging.

In British terms, the monarchy owns the government and the opposition to its government.

This is why conservatives will throw those outside the Hegelian system under the bus to appease the left.

Both sides are globalist.

[Foolsgo1d]

Farage saying we must have Muslims on our side has never read history, chooses to ignore it or is culpable in the whole thing.

In France the local politicians allowed Muslims to pray in the streets due to a lack of prayer space in mosques. Fast forward to now and they say it is their right to pray in the street to take over that space and use it however they wish. The cucks in power are outraged as they say and we completely hoodwinked!

Similar has and is happening in England and we have Farage saying we must appease them. You do not appease a predator when it see's you as its prey you idiot!

[Teedub]

Farage has been on the news today cucking so hard. Calling everyone who supports Tommy and the new UKIP direction "thugs", "racist extremists" etc.