[James Bond Next level]

A lot of information is scattered on this forum, so it's time to regroup everything we have on the matter. The point is to discuss how to game AND keep (as a GF/wife) a girl from EE/FSU either directly there or at home.

Slavic girls are famous for their beauty and femininity, but it comes at a cost, they aren't perfect. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who want to have one on my arm and maybe go long term. I'm struggling now with one and it's an entirely other game.

Warning
Western girls don't need to learn manipulation so much: guys are soft and easily controlled and there are plenty. Besides with the hookup culture, they aren't that interested in relationship. On the other hand, a lot of slavic girls grew in places where female competition is fierce and guys are a bit cold, strong and stubborn. Hence they had more reason to learn to manipulate and probably started it very young.
To sum it up, slavic girls have good game, so ours need to be better.

Observations
It has been mentioned in another thread, but especially for a serious partner, they will resist hard: long time to kiss and even more to bang. I'm still trying to close the deal as soon as possible (it is our duty as a man), but I have to stay realistic. I see it as a good thing: a girl that can better control herself and someone that will fall hard for you if you keep going. Just make sure the IOI are there so not to waste your time with a girl.

Phone game is extremely simplified, it's almost just for logistics. Keep your conversation for face to face.

They expect the man to be direct, indirect is a sign of weakness.

Don't hesitate to control her a bit: tell her what do bring, what to wear, what to do

A silence is a yes. Western girls like to say their opinions, confirm date, but a slavic will not always. If she is silent, keep going. When it is a no, she will say it. Tip: to avoid flake for the 1st date (she won't confirm even if she comes) just tell her when to meet but forget the where. If she wanna come, she will ask you.

Having a date is easier with a slavic girl, but your chances of closing are lower.

A bit of humor is good, but no clown game. Be more serious.



As for the rest, I'm not expert so feel free to add your own experiences ! I'm especially interested on how/when you closed, if you promised a relationship prior to that, how to game on the long term, etc

[This Is Trouble]

Having been with mine for a couple of years now, I've found repeatedly (and had others tell me the same) that they are a bit...well, helpless in a lot of areas. I'm sure it's not just Slavic girls either.

But in the States, it's an anomaly that we all move out and go to college at a ripe 18 years of age. Many of these girls are living with their parents until they're done with university at 22 or so, and even then, they're often still staying with their parents because of wages. If you choose to spend significant time dwelling with one, you'll need to train her on basic stuff like money management, time management - all basic things we tend to take for granted as men. If you get her young enough, you will, quite literally, have to train her on how to be an adult.

If she's been raised worth a damn she'll have the general cooking, cleaning, and housecare stuff well taken care of off the bat, but there are certain "life skills" you just simply can't acquire until you've been out from under your parent's roof. A large chunk of foreign girls under 25 haven't had that opportunity unless they come from the smaller villages or towns.

Not to say they are immature, in fact I'd argue that emotionally they are almost always far more mature in that aspect than girls from the west. Nor am I saying that girls from the west have all those aforementioned things together. Western girls just do a great job of faking that they have their life together, plus they rarely want to get into a relationship, absolving you from that training period.

Best advice I can give:

Just continue to guide, lead, and direct her. Be very specific what her roles and responsibilities are, she's looking to you for that direction. Don't beat around the bush either. Much like those first dates where you're trying to kiss her, being direct and doing exactly what you want is the way to go.

[kuqezi]

These girls have been growing up looking at a very manly father and if they had brothers they were manly and cocky too.
The man in their head and one they would like to fall in love with and pair bond or have an LTR has similar traits. (I am not talking about the bitches that like your money, dinners, gifts and like to be on the lookout for sponsors).
In my humble point of view, the best way is to be a real alpha man, direct, verbal. There will be a lot of shittests so be prepared to handle them as they were jokes. You've been there and done that before her...show this and she will submit!
My $0.02

[James Bond Next level]

For Mr trouble and the rest in similar situations: how closed/mysterious were your girl during the first dates? Mine is extremely and frankly I'm worried. At first I thought it was her way to keep herself from being hurt, now I'm not so sure.

[This Is Trouble]

(05-31-2018 04:26 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

For Mr trouble and the rest in similar situations: how closed/mysterious were your girl during the first dates? Mine is extremely and frankly I'm worried. At first I thought it was her way to keep herself from being hurt, now I'm not so sure.

Mine was always pretty bubbly and happy, but she was definitely more reserved and unwilling to let me in for at least the first month or two.

The big difference was when I brought her to the new city I was in (Odessa) for 5 days during summer. She opened up a lot more after that.

Probably a combination of the whirlwind of a beach trip + a bit of time.

[James Bond Next level]

(05-31-2018 06:20 AM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  

Mine was always pretty bubbly and happy, but she was definitely more reserved and unwilling to let me in for at least the first month or two.

The big difference was when I brought her to the new city I was in (Odessa) for 5 days during summer. She opened up a lot more after that.

Probably a combination of the whirlwind of a beach trip + a bit of time.

Thanks, that's reassuring. Because from western sluts who I manage to know in 30min how they lose their virginity (creepy stories coming) to a wall of ice, it's hard to adapt. EE girls are hard work indeed, hope it's worth it. Maybe I should book a trip for 2 to odessa haha

[droughtmeat]

In my experience, Slavic girls, who like Westerners, usually aren't that into their own men and find them rather boring. Thus, I wouldn't recommend simply imitating their behavior.
That said, of course, you still have to be an alpha.