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Quote: (05-19-2018 12:04 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Yeah - yeah - the left's side is batshit insane.

Frankly I trust Israel's assessment of their own situation better than when they utter words of wisdom about Syria, Iran or Libya. Because with the latter it's pure globalist crap.

With their own situation it's a mixed bag. Again - this is not a peaceful protest.






That guy runs around Australia defending the right of Australia to keep on existing, he also wants all white South Africans to have the option of moving to Australia.

Then you find out that some 80% of the killed are actually Hamas soldiers - just not in uniform.

Good article on the topic:

https://www.therebel.media/on_the_annive...lways_been

Israeli soldiers are not given any restraints when it comes to Palestinians. When you are brainwashed from birth to regard Palestinian Arabs as sub human, its open season on them.

The guy said there that the IDF could have massacred thousands, that's true. But there is a reason why they didn't. The IDF's policy is to maim unarmed Palestinian protesters, not kill them. Why? It's simple. If you kill a protester, you turn him/her into a martyr and the deceased acts as a rallying point for the family and the wider community. It is also bad PR. Whereas if you shoot someone in any of the limbs, face or groin area not only do you cripple them and make the rest of their lives a misery but you also shift the burden onto their families. Not only does it act as a disincentive, but it sends a message out to the rest of the community - stay in your homes, don't go out or you'll be next. The British adopted a similar policy in N. Ireland when dealing with Irish Catholic protesters so the IDF is just copying and paste.

Finally the line about how Hamas is the cause of this is just spin that is used to justify mass slaughter. Hamas is controlled opposition. There were set up by Mossad.
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Quote: (05-19-2018 12:04 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Yeah - yeah - the left's side is batshit insane.

Frankly I trust Israel's assessment of their own situation better than when they utter words of wisdom about Syria, Iran or Libya. Because with the latter it's pure globalist crap.

With their own situation it's a mixed bag. Again - this is not a peaceful protest.






That guy runs around Australia defending the right of Australia to keep on existing, he also wants all white South Africans to have the option of moving to Australia.

Then you find out that some 80% of the killed are actually Hamas soldiers - just not in uniform.

Good article on the topic:

https://www.therebel.media/on_the_annive...lways_been

Yup, heard of the issue of whites at South Africa.

If I'm not mistaken Israel also gives citizenship away if your ancestors are Jewish.

Altho I wonder rather have white Europeans invade Africa as the migrants are invading Europe now rather than running away from it tbh.
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When you talk about Iran you have to realize that Iran is not Iraq.

If for example the Ayatollahs fell somehow and you brought back the son of the Shah in order to be the secular shitlord there, then the overwhelming majority of the combat-age men under 40 would support him:






Here 100.000 fans chanting Reza Shah.

But here also another incident just a few months ago:

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In Mashhad, in December 2017, and in many other cities around the country, there was also this ominous chant; “not Gaza, not Lebanon, my life for Iran,” a reference to what protesters said was the regime’s focus on foreign adventures at the expense of domestic well-being.

That’s not something Hamas, which runs Gaza, or Hezbollah, which controls all of south Lebanon, wants to hear. Hezbollah’s indispensable supporter has always been Iran; it has no other state supporter. As for Hamas, as a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, it is regarded as an enemy by the two most powerful Arab states, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. In Egypt, General El-Sisi came to power by crushing the Muslim Brotherhood and deposing Mohamed Morsi. Hamas still manages, from its bases in the Sinai (and with some weaponry supplied from Hamas-ruled Gaza) to attack Egyptian soldiers and police in the Sinai, which only serves to strengthen Egypt’s hostility to Hamas.

Not GAZA, NOT LEBANON, MY LIFE FOR IRAN! They don't give a rat's ass about the conflict in Israel. Sure - they would fight if attacked, but if a surgical team of assassins came over, took care of the Ayatollahs and then a few generals pledged their allegiance to the son to Reza Shah, then that country could be highly stable. Some kind of conservative secular form of Islam similar to Christian countries in the 1950s would be acceptable to most.

But we won't get that - it will be Ayatollahs and then war. Though who knows ... the longer the war is not happening, the higher the chances for the more liberal (in a good sense this time) young people to take up ever greater part of the country. Because who wants to be arrested for playing rock/hard rock/jazz music in his cellar?
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/afte...-1.6099346

Paraguay has joined the crusade.
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#30

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Jews have a right to Israel. Werent they since the days of Omri and the Assyrians, the Maccabees and the Greeks? Dont know why whites care about Palestinians, to them you are just infidels.

Don't debate me.
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Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/ArminNavabi/status/999054123335991297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jihadwatch.org%2F2018%2F05%2Fvideo-iranian-burns-quran-says-we-are-hostages-of-this-book-this-book-has-nothing-but-violence-and-misery][/url]

There is a "Burn the Quran" movement in the Middle East where Muslims burn the Quran at the risk of their lives.

This crappy backwards violent religion is the one holding back the Middle East. For example the issue of inbreeding lowers IQs 8-14 points. Roughly 50% of Muslims are inbred. You can calculate the improvements just within 1-2 generations. There are of course other factors, Islam's anti-science bent as well as many other issues.

It's only good to violently unite and subjugate others in a Middle Ages environment.
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Quote: (05-24-2018 04:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/ArminNavabi/status/999054123335991297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jihadwatch.org%2F2018%2F05%2Fvideo-iranian-burns-quran-says-we-are-hostages-of-this-book-this-book-has-nothing-but-violence-and-misery][/url]

There is a "Burn the Quran" movement in the Middle East where Muslims burn the Quran at the risk of their lives.

This crappy backwards violent religion is the one holding back the Middle East. For example the issue of inbreeding lowers IQs 8-14 points. Roughly 50% of Muslims are inbred. You can calculate the improvements just within 1-2 generations. There are of course other factors, Islam's anti-science bent as well as many other issues.

It's only good to violently unite and subjugate others in a Middle Ages environment.

Holyshet.

I know even burning of flag is legal in the US freedom of speech. But this at the middle east? That's suicide.
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Quote: (05-24-2018 04:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

This crappy backwards violent religion is the one holding back the Middle East.

Especially Iran. They could be a real player if they were to just drop Islam like the bad habit it is.
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The video is more about journalists safely interviewing Assad. The interviews are beyond the level of Cathy Newman.

"Why are you bombing hospitals of Aleppo? Why have you used gas on your people?"

Could not stomach more than a few minutes of those psychopaths interviewing a sane man fighting for his people to not descend into anarchy and a new ISIS territory.
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#35

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I'm not pro-Israel, not pro-Palestine nor am I pro-Iran.
Yet it is amusing to see a degree of 'trolling' in a different capacity to what has taken place in Britain or the U.S.

Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1005784496430551044][/url]
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Good article for once on Henry Makow (he is a mixed bag of truth intermingled with his boomer political views).

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Iran Does Not Oppose the Jewish Power Elite (I)






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Left, the Shah criticized Jewish power publically in 1976 for CBS' 60 minutes with Mike Wallace

I really really like that guy - every interview I heard with him was smart, eloquent, sympathetic and wise. He knew about the shortcomings of Islam and wanted to raise the country to the 21st century returning the Persian people to their old glory.

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The same drug trafficking, money laundering
Rothschild Banking Syndicate that rules the West
also rules Iran.
"The Ayatollahs were on the CIA and MI6 payroll, and they were the ones who recruited the street thugs from the Iranian underworld who were instrumental in creating agitation against Mossadegh." [In other words, the Ayatollahs were originally allied with the Shah until their CIA masters told them to depose him.]



Shayan Zarrin is an Iranian-American

by Shayan Zarrin
(henrymakow.com)

A lot of players in the alternative media believe that Iran is a legitimate enemy of the City of London Jewish Power elite. We have all seen the memes which purport that Iran is one of the only countries without a Rothschild controlled central bank. This is nonsense because the Rothschilds are all over Iran with hundreds of Rothschild-controlled Swiss banks.

They also have a hand in the enormous Middle Eastern drug trade that is being run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the CIA/Mossad in Afghanistan. People don't realize that the Shah cut down on the Middle Eastern drug trade. It blossomed once the Shah was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution. The same drug trafficking, money laundering Rothschild Banking Syndicate that rules the West rules Iran.

To understand the modern day Islamic Republic of Iran, we need to go back in time. A lot has been written about the 1953 CIA Coup, Operation Ajax which overthrew Iranian Prime Minister Mossadegh after he nationalized the Iranian oil industry. But little has been mentioned about the key role of the Ayatollahs in that coup. The Ayatollahs were on the CIA and MI6 payroll, and they were the ones who recruited the street thugs from the Iranian underworld who were instrumental in creating agitation against Mossadegh.

After the coup, these Ayatollahs became best buds with the Shah. The Shah sought to gain support from the Ayatollahs in the 1950s and gave them access to government radio stations so that they could preach to the masses. However, starting in the late 1950s, the Shah used his consolidation of power after the coup to pursue nationalist policies along the likes of Mossadegh.

His first bold move was signing an oil extraction agreement with Enrico Mattei, chairman of the Italian Petroleum Agency. Mattei is famed for establishing energy independence for Italy through its own oil fields, and for trying to break the City of London Seven Sisters Oil Cartels' control of the world oil market by signing generous oil extraction deals with third world countries.

At this time, many in the Shah's inner circle started to turn against him, and a military coup was thwarted by the Shah in 1958. General Mohammad-Vali Gharani had met with American diplomats in Athens shortly before the coup. One can guess who was behind it.

The Shah further made enemies by launching major reforms he called,"the White (Bloodless) Revolution" in 1963. The reforms included land redistribution, massive infrastructure expansion and industrial projects, the right of women to vote, religious freedom, and an expansion of health care and education programs. Wikipedia explains the Shah's attitude after these reforms the best,"In the 1960s and 70s the Shah sought to develop a more independent foreign policy and established working relationships with the Soviet Union and eastern European nations."
In subsequent decades, per capita income for Iranians skyrocketed, and oil revenue fueled an enormous increase in state funding for industrial development projects."

These are things that are certainly not in the City of London's interests. The Shah's reforms faced strong opposition from the Ayatollahs, led by Ayatollah Khomeini, the future Supreme Leader of Iran. These Ayatollahs favored keeping Iran under the centuries-old backward feudal system. They were angry that they were losing influence in the public realm. In response to the reforms, Khomeini launched protests against the Shah in June of 1963. These protests were crushed after a couple of days.

It has been rumored that those protests were financed by various intelligence services, whether it was the CIA, MI6, KGB, or a combination thereof. The KGB is a suspect based on Soviet counterintelligence defector Colonel Michael Goliniewski from Poland, who revealed that Khomeini was, "one of Moscow's five sources of intelligence at the heart of the Shiite hierarchy."

Furthermore, the Shah continued to move Iran on an independent course up until his overthrow. In 1973, the Shah finally achieved Mossadegh's goal of nationalizing the Iranian Oil Industry through the 1973 Oil Sale and Purchase Agreement. He also began to move closer to the Arab countries of the Middle East.

SHAH BECOMES AN ANTISEMITE

Some very little known facts about the Shah's change in foreign policy are found in the book, "Israel and the Shah" by Devon Bowers: "After the 1967 war, Iran became deeply wary of the Jewish state as while the Shah supported a strong Israel, he did not favor an Israel that was stronger than Iran. This worry was due to the fact that the Shah believed that the '67 war had changed Israel from a defensive state to an aggressive one and thus he was concerned about possible Israeli expansion." (AKA Greater Israel).


The Shah was merely defending his homeland. The Shah was doing a plethora of things which angered the Jewish Power elite during the 70s. After the Six Day war, Iran cancelled all joint-Israeli projects, refused to allow any Israeli government officials to his 1971 2500-year Persian Empire Anniversary Celebrations, provided the Arabs with oil and logistical support during the 1973 Yom Kippur War, and even sent a plane to transport a Saudi battalion to the Golan Heights during the war.

Furthermore, the Shah signed an agreement with Saddam Hussein to end Iranian/CIA support of Kurdish rebels in Iraq, and he froze all Israeli military cooperation and business with Iran in order to pressure Israel to return all conquered Egyptian land to Egypt, which eventually came to being during the Camp David Accords in 1978 (Bowers). Sunnis and Shias were finally coming together in peace as one large Muslim block against Israel. That is something that Israel was horrified about. That is why the Greater Israel plan was created.

It was at this point that the Jewish Power Elite decided to dump the Shah. Amnesty International issued a report on Savak's torture apparatus in 1976. This was heavily played up by the Washington Post and New York Times. The CIA also released their psychological profile on the Shah to the press, which accused the Shah of being,"a megalomaniac, who would pursue his own aims, in disregard of U.S. interests." To which the Shah exclaimed,"So you would like me to be your stooge?"

Something else has been missed by the alternative media for years. I came across this quote from the Wikipedia article about the history of Jews in Iran. It states,"Even though Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was sympathetic to the jews in the beginning, he displayed antisemitic tendencies towards the end of his reign.

Yousef Cohen, the last Jewish representative of Iranian Senate describes in his memoirs that Shah became suspicious of the Jewish community in his final years because most of the international criticism about lack of freedom in Iran and military style of government came from Jewish authors. Furthermore, the writer for the influential and highly publicized book, fall of 77 (probably crash of 79 by Paul Erdman mistakenly called 77 by Cohen), which predicted the fall of Shah a few years prior to his demise was Jewish. Shah, according to Cohen, displayed a remarkable intolerance and annoyance by the Jewish community in his last annual visit in March 1978 with the community leaders. Cohen describes that the Shah believed that there is an international Jewish Conspiracy against him to end his reign as king." ...(Tomorrow-Iranian leaders have long-standing ties with US, Israel)

I think that this is where the Shah committed his gravest mistake - pitting Western and Communist powers against each other, getting the best deal is one thing. But he went too far in his opposition of Israel.

Best course would have been to sound tough, but secretly act peacefully towards Israel. He (or his family or at least an equally competent heir) might have been in power now and Iran would be beyond the level of Saudi Arabia in wealth - just far less retarded. But he likely underestimated their reach and how deep the Ayatollahs were infiltrated (some speculate that Kohmeini himself is a MI6 agent).

It would have served his country and people better if he had worked it out with Israel.

Now I fear that Iran is going to get the Iraqi freedom treatment in Trump's second term.

Also interesting how he came to power - he initially certainly promised the globalists far more, but then quickly opposed them on some issues - though they were not deal-breakers yet. The power of Israel combined with the US - as well as global secret services was just too great to oppose them that way.

And I do think that the globalists correctly assessed that a secular higher-IQ Iran with oil resources might become a far greater adversary in the future than the Saudis or Kuwaitis. Better give them Ayatollah and hardcore Islam - that will clobber them down sufficiently.

It's really funny when you think about it, because stronger interpretations of Islam (aka the true interpretations) are actually destroying a country - the only thing it's good for is to raise and combine a diverse medieval army.
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Shows were some folks mindset is...

Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1013056831025922048][/url]
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Is there a dedicated syria war topic ?
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Watched a documentary on House of Saud last night ...

First thing that got to my mind...how come every single king of Saudi had the exact same facial hair? Is it some sort of Illuminati? If MbS ever becomes king, he'd be the first to have a full beard:

Ibn Saud
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King Saud
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King Faisal
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King Khaled
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King Fahd
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King Abdullah
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King Salman
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Next?
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