[chvrches]

Backstory: Met this girl through night game, she is a shy sweet 18 year old girl, that go out to have fun with her girl friends every weekend. I've been flirting with her for a solid 2 months now, on and off whenever I saw her out during night outs. She took a strong liking to me and ever since I broke the ice and built comfort between us, she's been taking a strong liking to me. I started "boiling the frog" and started escalating slowly with her. I went from a hug, to holding hands, to kiss on the cheek to a small peck, to making out with her still being shy to finally making out with her without it being awkward, she finally let down her guard and was receptive towards making out, and having me being touchy with her. And I feel like I've come a long way considering she's never been with a guy before. She's a virgin and quite awkward but super feminine. She's only kissed 2 guys in her life prior to me, so it's a slow process but a steady one over the course of the 2 months. I had to treat her different than most girls I meet and game.

I invited her out twice during this time, but she always made up an excuse, or was too shy/scared to hang out just the two of us, so I figured I needed to keep escalating more - not give up easily. Friday night, 2 days ago I escalated better than ever before, as I mentioned above, she had her guard down and we were making out and being romantic with each other, in front of her friends. Before she was too shy to kiss me in front of her friends, but that night was just perfect. She wasn't shy anymore.

I decided to invite her out one last time, third time is the charm I thought. Usually, I would only try twice, but with this girl I felt like giving it a last shot. To my surprise she said "sure" rather than come up with a lame excuse this time. The sun is shining bright today so I took her out to the harbour to have an ice cream and chit chat. She seemed so different this time. First thing she says is she only has 1 hour, because she has to go study with her friends after this. Usually when we're out, we're vibing so well together, and we can talk for hours, but this time around I felt like I had to pull everything out of her, like having a conversation with an uninterested girl. There was no vibe and the conversation was 90% me talking 10% her. She didn't give me any threads to work with, I had to recycle old things she had told me during the time we flirted. Obviously I already knew everything about her, but I still managed to find new topics, but it was hard. I was playing tug o war with 3 big men, that's how I can explain it. I made her laugh a few times, but she just seemed distant. "I don't know" flew out of her mouth every time i asked her about some things. She usually always has an answer. This was unusual.

I would have thought she was shy still, but at this point we've known each other for 2 months and been making out 2 days ago. Could it be that when she's under the influence of alcohol it's a whole different story? Was it bad timing? Like I don't know what to believe. She had no content, she was so boring. I never saw her like this before. Im quite sad to be honest, because I had high expectations to finally escalate further with her, but on the date there was no kiss. I hugged her bye and she left a little earlier than supposed to. It was like she wanted to get away, she was checking her phone every once in a while.

Also the breaking point for me, when I said "finally we can hang out just the two of us, so is this our first official date huh?" teasing her and she replied "well i wouldn't call it a date really". I thought, whats going on? 2 days ago she was acting like my girlfriend, and the past 2 months work that was in my favor, what happened to all of that? Her friends kept telling me how much she liked me and that im good for her. But today was a different story.

Should I stop pursuing her and let it go, which is a shame considering I spent so much time and energy on escalating and building comfort? Or should I take this with a gran of salt and try to rebuild things again the next time we meet (during night out, next week). Am i over analyzing. Is she just boring without alcohol? What's the case.

[YoungBlade]

Next her

[kinjutsu]

"Flirting" passively in a nightclub is worse than everything.

Meet her > get her number/contact details > setup a time/place to meet up > escalate physically and kiss her > invite her back to your place or go to hers.

Learn to ask opened end questions and learn how to push/pull with her.
Since you met her at night in a club setting when you meet up with her make a comment about how you were worried she was gonna show up dressed like she's going to a club because you've only ever seen her in a night club.

As a newbie rule, only as a girl out once. If she declines she should be dead to you. Move on a cut all attention from her. Do not try to be friends with her or try to let her know you better so she can see that you're a great guy etc. In most cases it's a lost cause and usually prompts long threads like these.
Currently you lack the experience and discipline to have a girl you find sexually attractive around you and NOT need repeatedly run into the same wall trying to fuck her.

Lastly, never take what a girls friends say literally. You're only concern is making the girl feel a certain way where she wants to drop to her knees every time she sees you.


PS Do you lift? If not, why not?
If you have noticeable muscles you can get away with a lot of mistake and still get the bang.

[chvrches]

@Young Blade Im afraid you're right... I sent her a messaged saying "is something wrong? you seemed different today"

She replied "Im sorry i've had a long weekend, and i have been so busy, i didn't want to cancel on you for a 3rd time, i would feel so bad."

I don't know if it's a legit or bad excuse, but nonetheless doesn't take away from the previous breaking point "i wouldn't call this a date." Can't get it out of my head. It's so weird. She has no idea what she's saying.

@kinjutsu I agree with you about that part. Flirting passively is awful in a night club setting. I don't usually do that, but with this one i made the mistake of thinking i have to game her differently just because she's shy and a virgin. I held too much back in the beginning and only started escalating further into the passive flirting with her. My bad. About the lack of experience of having a girl i find attractive around me is very true. I ran into the wall of trying to fuck her. Multiple times. It was like a war escalating with her, but it paid off. BUT, I am afraid she isn't yet ready and the max effort i can get out of this girl is making out. So, nothing sexual. She seems uncomfortable when talking about sex. I never tried to push sex with her, because we're nowhere near that stage yet, but it concerns me that this might be a dead end. No matter what kind of game i apply to her, she is simply not ready for losing her virginity. I might be wrong also. I am confident enough to tell you right now that im probably the most important guy in her dating life right now - so you tell me what i should do from here. I thought this date would lead to more and on the 2nd date i would invite her over to my place. But i guess we hit rock bottom for some reason. It's like we took a step back in this "relationship" between us. For me at least.

kinjutsu, she really does kinda want to drop to her knees every time she sees me, but she's so bad at expressing herself. She keeps saying she likes me, i have the prettiest eyes, and im just her type, but she doesn't do much about it. I was out to the usual club we always see each other in. Friday night she had the biggest highschool party of the year, but instead of going there, she drove here to where i am to be with me for 30 min. It blew my mind. All that for me. WHY? I told he she should be out hunting cute guys, and she said no i rather be here with you. I came just to see you. It's a 30 min drive btw.

A week earlier she was at the club and she saw me kissing another girl that i had just met 30 min earlier. She got super sad and told me about it. It was her jealousy speaking. She said "i didn't know you did those kind of things". Which in my mind translates roughly to something like, "you've been escalating so slow on me, i didn't know you had it in you to attract girls in just 30 min and have other options than me, i misjudged you." After this she showed way more interest, like she had a fear of losing me. This is good game, because her attraction to me rised after that episode.

I do lift yeah, in fact my body makes up for my very average looks. Girls notice me a lot because of my athletic body, but i don't know how i can use it on this one to have sex. She wants to be sure about everything, and doesn't just want to jump on the adventure like most girls i've met. She's very careful. It annoys me. Im 99% sure she likes me in a sexual/romantic way, but also 99% sure she doesn't know what to do about it. She doesn't know what outcome she wants. A relationship? Sex? Flirting? Just fun? That's the impression i got. She doesn't know what she wants, perhaps i need to show her. I fucked up game somewhere in the run, and it's time to fix it now, but how.

[jcardial]

(05-13-2018 10:34 AM)chvrches Wrote:  

Backstory: Met this girl through night game, she is a shy sweet 18 year old girl, that go out to have fun with her girl friends every weekend. I've been flirting with her for a solid 2 months now, on and off whenever I saw her out during night outs. She took a strong liking to me and ever since I broke the ice and built comfort between us, she's been taking a strong liking to me. I started "boiling the frog" and started escalating slowly with her. I went from a hug, to holding hands, to kiss on the cheek to a small peck, to making out with her still being shy to finally making out with her without it being awkward, she finally let down her guard and was receptive towards making out, and having me being touchy with her. And I feel like I've come a long way considering she's never been with a guy before. She's a virgin and quite awkward but super feminine. She's only kissed 2 guys in her life prior to me, so it's a slow process but a steady one over the course of the 2 months. I had to treat her different than most girls I meet and game.

I invited her out twice during this time, but she always made up an excuse, or was too shy/scared to hang out just the two of us, so I figured I needed to keep escalating more - not give up easily. Friday night, 2 days ago I escalated better than ever before, as I mentioned above, she had her guard down and we were making out and being romantic with each other, in front of her friends. Before she was too shy to kiss me in front of her friends, but that night was just perfect. She wasn't shy anymore.

I decided to invite her out one last time, third time is the charm I thought. Usually, I would only try twice, but with this girl I felt like giving it a last shot. To my surprise she said "sure" rather than come up with a lame excuse this time. The sun is shining bright today so I took her out to the harbour to have an ice cream and chit chat. She seemed so different this time. First thing she says is she only has 1 hour, because she has to go study with her friends after this. Usually when we're out, we're vibing so well together, and we can talk for hours, but this time around I felt like I had to pull everything out of her, like having a conversation with an uninterested girl. There was no vibe and the conversation was 90% me talking 10% her. She didn't give me any threads to work with, I had to recycle old things she had told me during the time we flirted. Obviously I already knew everything about her, but I still managed to find new topics, but it was hard. I was playing tug o war with 3 big men, that's how I can explain it. I made her laugh a few times, but she just seemed distant. "I don't know" flew out of her mouth every time i asked her about some things. She usually always has an answer. This was unusual.

I would have thought she was shy still, but at this point we've known each other for 2 months and been making out 2 days ago. Could it be that when she's under the influence of alcohol it's a whole different story? Was it bad timing? Like I don't know what to believe. She had no content, she was so boring. I never saw her like this before. Im quite sad to be honest, because I had high expectations to finally escalate further with her, but on the date there was no kiss. I hugged her bye and she left a little earlier than supposed to. It was like she wanted to get away, she was checking her phone every once in a while.

Also the breaking point for me, when I said "finally we can hang out just the two of us, so is this our first official date huh?" teasing her and she replied "well i wouldn't call it a date really". I thought, whats going on? 2 days ago she was acting like my girlfriend, and the past 2 months work that was in my favor, what happened to all of that? Her friends kept telling me how much she liked me and that im good for her. But today was a different story.

Should I stop pursuing her and let it go, which is a shame considering I spent so much time and energy on escalating and building comfort? Or should I take this with a gran of salt and try to rebuild things again the next time we meet (during night out, next week). Am i over analyzing. Is she just boring without alcohol? What's the case.

"finally we can hang out just the two of us, so is this our first official date huh?". You framed the meetup as a huge deal and asked her to lead/define the interaction all in one very weak sentence. You just come off as unsure that she likes you enough for your meeting to be considered a date, which will make her question any attraction she might have. There's no reason to narrate this detail and put unnecessary pressure on the expectations of the meetup which is particularly bad if she's nervous about her inexperience or at all on the fence about her attraction to you.

She wasn't just being boring. Unfortunately, your question probably squashed her positive emotions for you. It will be hard to rebuild it short of her seeing hard evidence that other girls are attracted to you (e.g. dancing with other girls right in front of her looking like you're having a lot of fun). That said, if she catches you looking at her to gauge her reaction it will all be in vain. Probably the only way to get her to come crawling back is to do what you should do anyway, which is to forget about her and try to meet a girl that's really into you and not like pulling teeth to talk to.

[chvrches]

(05-13-2018 01:19 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

"finally we can hang out just the two of us, so is this our first official date huh?". You framed the meetup as a huge deal and asked her to lead/define the interaction all in one very weak sentence. You just come off as unsure that she likes you enough for your meeting to be considered a date, which will make her question any attraction she might have. There's no reason to narrate this detail and put unnecessary pressure on the expectations of the meetup which is particularly bad if she's nervous about her inexperience or at all on the fence about her attraction to you.

I agree 100% with this. This was unnecessary and displays insecurity. And this was most likely her first date and it put too much pressure on her when i mentioned it. I will not say this again in the future, even though i was just teasing her and wasn't fishing for a reaction, i understand that it was a stupid move. I admit my mistake.

(05-13-2018 01:19 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

She wasn't just being boring. Unfortunately, your question probably squashed her positive emotions for you. It will be hard to rebuild it short of her seeing hard evidence that other girls are attracted to you (e.g. dancing with other girls right in front of her looking like you're having a lot of fun). That said, if she catches you looking at her to gauge her reaction it will all be in vain.

I don't know if i agree with this one. She's not shallow, so probably not thinking like this.

She doesn’t know what she’s doing. Serveral nights she acts like my girlfriend and 2 days later we’re on a hug basis, its like we’ve just met. I can guarantee you she’s not playing me, she’s just too inexperienced to say what she means. She said it’s not a date, but it’s most likely an automatic response to protect herself. She’s the type of girl that wants to be 101% sure about a guy before she commits to anything.

After i didn’t respond to her first message she sent another one just now saying “but don’t take it as I didn’t have fun, because I really did”.

But I honestly don’t know. She’s confused man. Giving mixed signals. I will probably ignore her for a week and she will have to come if she wants anything. Either she’s a master of shit tests or else she just doesn’t know wtf she’s doing and have no experience with boys at all. I think the latter is the case.

(05-13-2018 01:19 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

Probably the only way to get her to come crawling back is to do what you should do anyway, which is to forget about her and try to meet a girl that's really into you and not like pulling teeth to talk to.

Absolutely correct.

[JackinMelbourne]

Yeah this is super cute first love kind of stuff right here or at least that's the impression I get when reading your posts.

The big fail you're constantly making is trying to imply (to her) that it's all more serious than it is. You're too romantic and invested into the whole thing.

I'd honestly cut the chit chat with her, especially anything negative and not fun like "is something wrong?" (gaaaay) and get more physical before you do anything else. Go back to casually meeting her out in a social place like the past two months, have a few drinks and keep it more physical and fun (nothing deep, negative or contrived).

Talk to other chicks too, that'll make you come across less needy even if you still have one-itis for this one.

[John Gotti]

You weren't direct enough from the get go. Next her, you're fighting an uphill battle trying to get her to like you.

[XXL]

Do not meet up with a girl who has time constraint cause that seems like a semi desperation. Turned out she met up out of some kind of obligation, not because she wanted but because she didn't want to cancel again.

Do not say anything that defines what is happening between you and her. Do not mention anything like date, sex, relationship, intimacy, etc. It is unnecessary pressure to them which makes it harder for you. They want to see that whatever happens "it just happenend". Once you say it you kill it.

Let go a bit for a while and then try again to see her one on one. Try to guilting her up a bit by hinting between the verses that you get it, she doesn't want to see you cause she probably doesn't like you etc.

[chvrches]

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Yeah this is super cute first love kind of stuff right here or at least that's the impression I get when reading your posts.

The big fail you're constantly making is trying to imply (to her) that it's all more serious than it is. You're too romantic and invested into the whole thing.

I think you're right. Im investing blindly.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

I'd honestly cut the chit chat with her, especially anything negative and not fun like "is something wrong?" (gaaaay) and get more physical before you do anything else. Go back to casually meeting her out in a social place like the past two months, have a few drinks and keep it more physical and fun (nothing deep, negative or contrived).

Sure will do that. But again, what's the goal then? Just casual meeting and kissing? It gets boring. If she isn't interested in sex im not interested in spending more time on her. Isn't it fair enough? If i act like nothing is wrong and get back to being physical and touchy with her she will never get the point. That i want to fuck her and not just be her make out buddy. How about giving her the cold shoulder for awhile and see what happens? Restart her.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Talk to other chicks too, that'll make you come across less needy even if you still have one-itis for this one.

I don't think i have oneitis for her man, because some weekends i literally forget her existence - and i don't even think about her in my every day. Whenever i see her though, i feel like it's my time to shine. But im hitting a wall. All i want to know is if she wants to do more than just kissing, or i should next her. I will never find out if i don't try to escalate on her further, and that's what i have been doing.

@John Gotti I know for a fact that you're right. I haven't been direct enough. But there's a thing you're misunderstanding. She really does like me. As i mentioned in earlier post. She is super into me, and i can with confidence say im the most important guy in her dating life right now. But the BIG question remains - does she like me enough to have sex with me? or does she just want to be lesser physical and only kiss and have fun with me from time to time.

@XXL Absolutely right, i feel like it was rushed, she met up because of some kind of obligation. I had previously guilt tripped her for why she canceled on me 2 times. And she seemed in a hurry. Bad timing.

Why do you think i shouldn't mention anything above sex/relationship. I see it puts pressure on her, but doesn't it also sort it out for me easier, since i will know whether i should next her instantly or not. If i keep doing what you're suggesting then we will stay at the point we're at right now. Feel me?

(05-14-2018 06:45 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Let go a bit for a while and then try again to see her one on one. Try to guilting her up a bit by hinting between the verses that you get it, she doesn't want to see you cause she probably doesn't like you etc.

This is the kind of advice i'd like to hear. I will 100% do this. But doesn't it contradict what you said earlier, about not talking about or mentioning our sex/relationship/date? Im curious. Oh you're saying i should do it indirect, between the lines rather than direct. If that's the case i get it.

[jcardial]

(05-14-2018 07:08 AM)chvrches Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Yeah this is super cute first love kind of stuff right here or at least that's the impression I get when reading your posts.

The big fail you're constantly making is trying to imply (to her) that it's all more serious than it is. You're too romantic and invested into the whole thing.

I think you're right. Im investing blindly.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

I'd honestly cut the chit chat with her, especially anything negative and not fun like "is something wrong?" (gaaaay) and get more physical before you do anything else. Go back to casually meeting her out in a social place like the past two months, have a few drinks and keep it more physical and fun (nothing deep, negative or contrived).

Sure will do that. But again, what's the goal then? Just casual meeting and kissing? It gets boring. If she isn't interested in sex im not interested in spending more time on her. Isn't it fair enough? If i act like nothing is wrong and get back to being physical and touchy with her she will never get the point. That i want to fuck her and not just be her make out buddy. How about giving her the cold shoulder for awhile and see what happens? Restart her.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Talk to other chicks too, that'll make you come across less needy even if you still have one-itis for this one.

I don't think i have oneitis for her man, because some weekends i literally forget her existence - and i don't even think about her in my every day. Whenever i see her though, i feel like it's my time to shine. But im hitting a wall. All i want to know is if she wants to do more than just kissing, or i should next her. I will never find out if i don't try to escalate on her further, and that's what i have been doing.

@John Gotti I know for a fact that you're right. I haven't been direct enough. But there's a thing you're misunderstanding. She really does like me. As i mentioned in earlier post. She is super into me, and i can with confidence say im the most important guy in her dating life right now. But the BIG question remains - does she like me enough to have sex with me? or does she just want to be lesser physical and only kiss and have fun with me from time to time.

@XXL Absolutely right, i feel like it was rushed, she met up because of some kind of obligation. I had previously guilt tripped her for why she canceled on me 2 times. And she seemed in a hurry. Bad timing.

Why do you think i shouldn't mention anything above sex/relationship. I see it puts pressure on her, but doesn't it also sort it out for me easier, since i will know whether i should next her instantly or not. If i keep doing what you're suggesting then we will stay at the point we're at right now. Feel me?

(05-14-2018 06:45 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Let go a bit for a while and then try again to see her one on one. Try to guilting her up a bit by hinting between the verses that you get it, she doesn't want to see you cause she probably doesn't like you etc.

This is the kind of advice i'd like to hear. I will 100% do this. But doesn't it contradict what you said earlier, about not talking about or mentioning our sex/relationship/date? Im curious. Oh you're saying i should do it indirect, between the lines rather than direct. If that's the case i get it.

With the young virgin demographic, it's usually not worth pursuing if she isn't head over heels in love with you and basically bending over backwards to see you. Keep in mind that a virgin girl is super idealistic about sex and this girl doesn't sound like an exception at all. It's going to be difficult and very time consuming to build the trust, comfort and level of "love" that she expects. Her seeing you make out with another girl probably actually hurt your cause if she has very romantic standards regarding her first guy. She's probably already skeptical that you're just in it for the sexo, so pressuring her into bed is probably just going to turn her off further.

From the way you describe interactions with her, it's very likely you're just going to waste a bunch of time on dates as it becomes increasingly salient in her mind that you don't have enough in common to be "the one" she wants to lose her virginity to. Attention, hand holding and making out is the currency of these girls and sex isn't anywhere near the to do list.

If it's not a lot of fun to talk and hang out with her just cut your losses because it's not worth it to go on several dates over possibly months for such an unlikely payoff. Even when a virgin is basically in love with you it can still take a big time investment and even if you play it perfectly it can fizzle out for the dumbest reasons. Don't try to play guilt games or imply she doesn't like you enough. Just find a more worthwhile girl to invest your time.

[chvrches]

(05-14-2018 01:33 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:08 AM)chvrches Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Yeah this is super cute first love kind of stuff right here or at least that's the impression I get when reading your posts.

The big fail you're constantly making is trying to imply (to her) that it's all more serious than it is. You're too romantic and invested into the whole thing.

I think you're right. Im investing blindly.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

I'd honestly cut the chit chat with her, especially anything negative and not fun like "is something wrong?" (gaaaay) and get more physical before you do anything else. Go back to casually meeting her out in a social place like the past two months, have a few drinks and keep it more physical and fun (nothing deep, negative or contrived).

Sure will do that. But again, what's the goal then? Just casual meeting and kissing? It gets boring. If she isn't interested in sex im not interested in spending more time on her. Isn't it fair enough? If i act like nothing is wrong and get back to being physical and touchy with her she will never get the point. That i want to fuck her and not just be her make out buddy. How about giving her the cold shoulder for awhile and see what happens? Restart her.

(05-13-2018 05:36 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

Talk to other chicks too, that'll make you come across less needy even if you still have one-itis for this one.

I don't think i have oneitis for her man, because some weekends i literally forget her existence - and i don't even think about her in my every day. Whenever i see her though, i feel like it's my time to shine. But im hitting a wall. All i want to know is if she wants to do more than just kissing, or i should next her. I will never find out if i don't try to escalate on her further, and that's what i have been doing.

@John Gotti I know for a fact that you're right. I haven't been direct enough. But there's a thing you're misunderstanding. She really does like me. As i mentioned in earlier post. She is super into me, and i can with confidence say im the most important guy in her dating life right now. But the BIG question remains - does she like me enough to have sex with me? or does she just want to be lesser physical and only kiss and have fun with me from time to time.

@XXL Absolutely right, i feel like it was rushed, she met up because of some kind of obligation. I had previously guilt tripped her for why she canceled on me 2 times. And she seemed in a hurry. Bad timing.

Why do you think i shouldn't mention anything above sex/relationship. I see it puts pressure on her, but doesn't it also sort it out for me easier, since i will know whether i should next her instantly or not. If i keep doing what you're suggesting then we will stay at the point we're at right now. Feel me?

(05-14-2018 06:45 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Let go a bit for a while and then try again to see her one on one. Try to guilting her up a bit by hinting between the verses that you get it, she doesn't want to see you cause she probably doesn't like you etc.

This is the kind of advice i'd like to hear. I will 100% do this. But doesn't it contradict what you said earlier, about not talking about or mentioning our sex/relationship/date? Im curious. Oh you're saying i should do it indirect, between the lines rather than direct. If that's the case i get it.

With the young virgin demographic, it's usually not worth pursuing if she isn't head over heels in love with you and basically bending over backwards to see you. Keep in mind that a virgin girl is super idealistic about sex and this girl doesn't sound like an exception at all. It's going to be difficult and very time consuming to build the trust, comfort and level of "love" that she expects. Her seeing you make out with another girl probably actually hurt your cause if she has very romantic standards regarding her first guy. She's probably already skeptical that you're just in it for the sexo, so pressuring her into bed is probably just going to turn her off further.

From the way you describe interactions with her, it's very likely you're just going to waste a bunch of time on dates as it becomes increasingly salient in her mind that you don't have enough in common to be "the one" she wants to lose her virginity to. Attention, hand holding and making out is the currency of these girls and sex isn't anywhere near the to do list.

If it's not a lot of fun to talk and hang out with her just cut your losses because it's not worth it to go on several dates over possibly months for such an unlikely payoff. Even when a virgin is basically in love with you it can still take a big time investment and even if you play it perfectly it can fizzle out for the dumbest reasons. Don't try to play guilt games or imply she doesn't like you enough. Just find a more worthwhile girl to invest your time.

Thank you so much, this reply helped clear my mind. I will go through with what you're saying with no regret. You hit the nail on the head with this one. It's simply too time/energy consuming for so little in return.