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Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy
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Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

> The narrative of "it's a free business decision for them to deny service" is unfortunately faulty.







Why?

Because companies like Paypal, Facebook, Google (and the algorythm which the alternative often use), Twitter, Youtube - those are NATURAL MONOPOLIES. Essentially they are comparable to one local supermarket in your remote village that by sheer luck has been created first or was just marginally better than the other competitors. The village does not support 2 local supermarkets just as 2 Twitters and 2 Youtubes of identical power do not exist. Google even tried to create their own Youtube, but it did not reach any level even remotely similar to Youtube despite all their strength. Why is that?

Because the internet works in a way of creating natural monopolies just as utilities like power, water and train communication create natural monopolies that only make sense to be offered by one company - best a public one even in this case.

Twitter and Youtube are comparable to the local supermarket in your remote Alaskan village who suddenly decides to NOT SELL YOU ANYTHING, TO BAN YOU FROM THEIR STORE because it does not like you anymore due to your conservative views. You have not done anything illegal, you do not steal from them or stink - they just arbitrarily decide to not like you. That is 95% of all Twitter and Youtube bans.

Paypal deplatforming Roosh was such a supermarket decision. The globalists of course know that the internet has created natural monopolies and that is why some politicians correctly said that they should be re-defined as utilities - aka you force them to be politically un-biased and that throwing out the alt-right is tantamount to McDonald's implementing "a-no-black-customer-served" policy while all the other major restaurant chains do exactly the same. These are all private businesses, right? So they should be able to do it? No - that is discrimination - real one in this case and not the new Orwellian definition of it.

You already see how Facebook, Twitter and Youtube are banning or demonetizing content creators for a multitude of reasons - because they are anti-feminist, they are anti-Hillary, they are supposedly racist (even when all you do is spout peer-reviewed studies on races) - does not matter - you get banned.

So no - those big internet businesses are natural monopolies and must be treated differently. Go-daddy is another matter, but what happens when they refuse to give you any platform? They can ban anyone off the internet permanently similar to Andrew Anglin. You may not disagree with him and that is fine, but so long as not actually calling out for violence, then what is the problem? Islam spawns countless groups, sites and videos who all call for the annihilation of the Jews and conquest of all unbelievers. By that definition you should ban Islam off the internet completely, but that won't happen until after WWIII, so it's good for now.
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#77

Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

I would advise getting a .onion site on the dark web... Just in case... Precedent has already been set.

Also, I would collect some free manosphere writings, ROK stuff, and put it on flashdrives in geocaches or alternatively dead drops: https://deaddrops.com/ .

It's a good way to get the stuff out to people.
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Quote: (05-04-2018 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

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As such, they believe they are morally-righteous, of course, without a moral core based in Truth, it always breaks down.
This reminds me of a point my mother made against one of the arguments for gay marriage - "It's two consenting adults, there's nothing wrong with it."
She'd then ask them about their views on polygamy, then incestuous relationships, then bestiality. Most people would become uncomfortable and object to one of the questions, and draw their own line in the sand.

She'd then repeat back their original argument - "It's just consenting adults, there's nothing wrong with it." And logically there wasn't, but that didn't make them any less uncomfortable. Everyone drew their own line in the sand, each shifting as they saw fit.

She'd then explain how her position was based on the bible, and it being the truth, would never shift.

Quote: (05-04-2018 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I was reading the Catechism recently, and this jumped out at me:

"It is not licit to do evil so that good may result from it. An evil end corrupts the action, even if the object is good in itself, since the end does not justify the means."

Note 'justify' in this context doesn't mean rationalizing the behaviour to oneself: it's the Catholic understanding of it meaning, co-operating with the Will of God via one's free will.

Back to me previously-saying dysfunctional acts produce dysfunctional results: No matter what action Social Justice Warriors take believing they are morally-righteous, they are only following the Law of Self. As such, the end result will always be dysfunctional: ever decreasing-spirals of persecution, excommunication and - in the worst cases - murder of disbelievers, and the dark reality of the security of being a true believer being able to be revoked at any moment as these circles decrease.

Since I take this as both dictated and observable truth, if the Right also starts believing the ends justify the means, similar dysfunction is bound to follow, though I struggled with this point for a couple of years. Note my professed discomfort with seeing people in power stepping down due to what appears to be blackmail from Trump's people. What dysfunction will result?

Essentially fruit of the poisonous tree, just from a moral perspective.

Many would view the actions that the right are now taking as a 'trolley problem:'

Quote:Quote:

There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person tied up on the side track. You have two options:

Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track.

Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person.

Which is the most ethical choice?

I've always argued that you should do nothing, as 'An evil end corrupts the action, even if the object is good in itself.'

But that doesn't stop people from pulling the lever.
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#79

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< Dark web are not solutions.

I think that Roosh got warning shots with the meetup outrage and the Paypal deplatforming. That was the warning shot to never speak about the Jewish Question or anything related to it and next to never attempt to create a real-life group of like-minded men.

And better to stay away from irony and too great satire - the MRAs already published satirical beat-a-woman articles similar to feminist ones and the media and feminists all twisted it terribly.
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Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

On a related note, we also see non-monopolies making bold moves, like all those companies recently 'opposing the NRA' or even stores like Dicks or companies like Yeti making blatant moves in direct opposition to their customer base. A lot of people have wondered how and why these companies would make such seemingly suicidal business moves.

Here's my theory: it all has to do with the 'investors.' Back when I worked for a big company, we always had these quarterly calls to update the 'investors' about the business. Why do I put 'investors' in quotes? Because for the most part, they're just a vague obtuse blob. Nobody really knows who the hell they are. Maybe some lower level ones but that's it. My theory is that the investors are for the most part THEM; those that wield the trillions of dollars and are the money masters. They have far more money than any potential customer base, and therefore cut some behind the scenes deal to make companies do what they do because....they have the real money. We have peanuts.
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Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

Gab.ai almost got deplatformed for stupidly choosing an Australian Domain Host. Any hosting service based in the Anglosphere or Five Eyes countries is going to be converged and willing to throw your blog or website under the bus in a flash.

I believe there are two separate issues here. Unless you run your own servers, you need a domain host. In this case it was GoDaddy which is converged and willing to shut down Spencer's account for Terms of Service violations (which can mean anything and everything). So, at the end of the day, Spencer still owns AltRight.com and he can probably port it out to another hosting company.

The problem then is finding a company that won't buckle under political pressure for hosting your content. I think Zerohedge uses a host in Switzerland. Latin America or Singapore might also be good locations since they don't really give a shit about SJW talking points.

The last hurdle is the TLD -- .com and .org are TLDs assigned to the United States so they can get yanked by the alphabet agencies. This is what happened to Backpage but not AltRight. It's been several years since I looked into TLDs but .co (Colombia) with a .com mirror and a non-SJW foreign host seemed like the best setup for a controversial blog.
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#82

Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

CNN sure did a hit piece on the Daily Stormer and Altright.com today, they dedicated quite a bit of time to talking about it.
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#83

Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

This is problem that will have to be dealt with inevitably, one way or the other.

You can take your business to an out-of-Anglosphere provider (the ridiculous irony) but what's to say that Soros or equivalent doesn't pony up 1000x your rate to have you booted and then pass the glory to whatever group of asshole activists want to write your provider a flowery letter?

This is the decline. We are close the end of the "enjoy it" phase.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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Altright.com domain seized by Go Daddy

Quote: (05-05-2018 12:16 PM)glugger Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2018 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

.......
As such, they believe they are morally-righteous, of course, without a moral core based in Truth, it always breaks down.
This reminds me of a point my mother made against one of the arguments for gay marriage - "It's two consenting adults, there's nothing wrong with it."
She'd then ask them about their views on polygamy, then incestuous relationships, then bestiality. Most people would become uncomfortable and object to one of the questions, and draw their own line in the sand.

She'd then repeat back their original argument - "It's just consenting adults, there's nothing wrong with it." And logically there wasn't, but that didn't make them any less uncomfortable. Everyone drew their own line in the sand, each shifting as they saw fit.

She'd then explain how her position was based on the bible, and it being the truth, would never shift.

Quote: (05-04-2018 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

SNIP

Essentially fruit of the poisonous tree, just from a moral perspective.

Many would view the actions that the right are now taking as a 'trolley problem:'

Quote:Quote:

There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person tied up on the side track. You have two options:

Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track.

Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person.

Which is the most ethical choice?

I've always argued that you should do nothing, as 'An evil end corrupts the action, even if the object is good in itself.'

But that doesn't stop people from pulling the lever.

"This reminds me of a point my mother made against one of the arguments for gay marriage - "It's two consenting adults, there's nothing wrong with it." She'd then ask them about their views on polygamy, then incestuous relationships, then bestiality..."

Here is the liberal/white knight/cuckservative "logic." Try to follow along. It won't be easy.

1). Gay marriage should be legal because it's two consenting adults.

2). Prostitution should be illegal because even though it's two adults, men coerce women into doing things and women are too weak-willed by nature to resist or understand the implications thereof. So, they are unable to "consent" as adults (actual example of that argument here). This also goes for drunk sex, "regret sex," and a bunch of other things.

3). Women are every bit the equal of men and should be our doctors, judges, lawmakers, and CEOs.

Got that?
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Quote: (05-04-2018 03:36 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

I am sure roosh has a plan but we can all take part by severely reducing the number of inflammatory things we say. Let's help eachother out here since we all value this forum greatly.

The forum wouldnt be shut down because of what people say here because most people dont say the @wrong things@ but RoK could get the forums shut down if the forums use the same hosting service as RoK. Thing is, it wouldn't be because of the articles...

It would be because of the commenters, the RoK comments is pretty much Richard spencers stormfront and altright.com all mixed together in one shit sandwich.

Isaiah 4:1
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The one thing to bear in mind is that any narrative pushed by the left is only to push what they believe to be in their interests. Government control, censorship, and centralization are in the lefts' interest at least in the short-term. Expecting them to have high-time preferences (long-term view) is futile.

I notice a common thing on right wing site threads is to take some sort of comfort that they left will see the err of their ways at some point in the future. Maybe they will, but I wouldn't count on it. And even if they did, it would be too late. It's like they commit suicide by jumping of the cliff and then mid-air they have an overwhelming desire to live. It doesn't matter, they are past the point of no return.

The only solution to these censorship campaigns is to develop and begin using alternative, uncensorable platforms. Everything else is just shaking your fist at gamma rays in anger.

The Maximally Pathetic Schema: Xs who labor to convince Ys that “I’m not one of those despicable Zs!,” when in fact it is obvious to the meanest intelligence that the Ys see no difference between Xs and Zs, don’t care anyway, and would love to throw both Xs and Zs into a gulag.

- Adrian Vermeule
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#87

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I went to it today and http://www.altright.com loads now! Anyone know what happened?

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Quote: (02-11-2019 05:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
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#88

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They (the owner of altright.com) must have transferred it to another hosting service or are hosting it themselves.
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I stripped out the personal details but looks like he owns it now:

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Raw WHOIS Record

Domain Name: ALTRIGHT.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1946587469_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ilovewww.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ilovewww.com
Updated Date: 2018-07-22T02:24:28Z
Creation Date: 2015-07-13T15:20:52Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-07-13T15:20:52Z
Registrar: Shinjiru MSC Sdn Bhd
Registrar IANA ID: 1741
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Richard Spencer
Registrant Organization: AltRight Corporation
Registrant Street: PO Box
Registrant City: Arlington
Registrant State/Province: Virginia
Registrant Postal Code:
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: @gmail.com
Registry Admin ID: Not Available From Registry

Name Server: ns1.selectel.org
Name Server: ns2.selectel.org
Name Server: ns3.selectel.org
Name Server: ns4.selectel.org
DNSSEC: Unsigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +603 2031 8850
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-10-25T20:12:11Z <<<

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Quote: (02-11-2019 05:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
I take pussy how it comes -but I do now prefer it shaved low at least-you cannot eat what you cannot see.
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Too fat to dodge a Dodge, lol.

BTW, the First Amendment is a limit in government power, not private actors. So go Daddy can rescind their hosting but not take their property rights in the domain name. Being a registrar is a government function so this may be unconstitutional.
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^^^ Yes, but if you have a service that is open to the public such as a restaraunt then you can't by law deny service from groups you don't like.
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Quote: (10-25-2018 03:24 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Too fat to dodge a Dodge, lol.

BTW, the First Amendment is a limit in government power, not private actors. So go Daddy can rescind their hosting but not take their property rights in the domain name. Being a registrar is a government function so this may be unconstitutional.

If that was true then the daily stormer wouldn't have been chased off of about 5 different domains.

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"The Carousel Stops For No Man" - Tuthmosis
Quote: (02-11-2019 05:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
I take pussy how it comes -but I do now prefer it shaved low at least-you cannot eat what you cannot see.
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Quote: (05-03-2018 07:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Know your enemy:

- Godaddy has a long history of censoring sites;

- Godaddy hasn't made a profit since 2009; and has lost $531 Million since 2012 yet, like most of the Narrative-Pushing Silicon Valley companies, somehow still exists.

- Current CEO Blake Irving (ex-Microsoft, ex-Yahoo) is True Believer (Gender Gap, Women of Colour Coding, sponsoring a female Nascar Driver).

- They're Anti-Net Neutrality.

Why support the enemy? Because it's everywhere, and into everything, you have no choice.

Note one other interesting fact: Blake Irving is the son of an FBI Agent.

Did not know and thank you! What are the alternatives?
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Quote: (10-25-2018 03:45 PM)Uzisuicide Wrote:  

^^^ Yes, but if you have a service that is open to the public such as a restaraunt then you can't by law deny service from groups you don't like.

Laws vary by nation but generally you are only prohibited from discriminating on service for reasons of race, religion, sexuality and that other PC stuff.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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Quote: (10-25-2018 03:45 PM)Uzisuicide Wrote:  

^^^ Yes, but if you have a service that is open to the public such as a restaraunt then you can't by law deny service from groups you don't like.

You are sort of correct.

If you are deemed a public accomodation, like a restaurant, you can't deny service to someone based on their status as a protected class.

Citing terms of service is a way around protected-class-discrimination that has been effective up to now.
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