Quote: (05-20-2018 08:00 AM)GreenManaleshi Wrote:
As I get older, I feel more and more detached, and I find myself feeling heavily nostalgic and looking backwards. I'm 50, and it feels like I'm living in a parallel world lol. I drive around and listen to mostly 70s and 80s music. Rewatch old movies and TV again and again. All my cultural touchstones are fading from the world it seems. Young people stare at me with confused looks on their face when I casually mention cultural references "everyone" knew when I was younger.
Don't fight it, feel it! You are getting older brother. It comes to all men. Well, the lucky ones anyway.
I don't want to be that 'Dad' trying to appear cool and down with the kids. But it's difficult when you work in the field of music and the 'arts'. I hope I get around it by not actually giving a shit what the kids think of me, but at the same time playing a kind of elder statesman, offering advice and mentoring. Maybe that is somewhat grandiose of me. But it's better than trying to be 'hip' or 'still relevant'. Fuck 'em.
You are generation X. Your generation, and your time while you were in your prime was experiencing all the great music they made. And they did. But you are getting older, as I and many others are and the cultural sands are shifting. They wait for no man.
Quote: (05-20-2018 08:59 AM)red pillage Wrote:
Quote: (05-20-2018 08:00 AM)GreenManaleshi Wrote:
As far as culture goes, seems all things I loved as a kid are being remade, rehashed, neutered, infused with leftist politics, etc.
And that's really all they have nowadays. At the gym I am constantly forced to hear bad remakes of old 70s, 80s, and 90s songs. Feels like real pop music somehow stopped in 2000 and now it's just a never ending cycle of rehashing old material. And for good reason I may add: The current political climate does not foster or even encourage original thought and combined with the willful destruction of art, music, and architecture what remains is nothing but vapid ephemeral crap devoid of any soul or meaning.
Exactly. It all ended in the 21st Century. Not a single genre of music 'invented' since then. By the end of the 20th Century new genres and movements were being made every few years. That hasn't happened for some time now.
You make two other excellent points.
The music today is a re-hash of what sells, what 'works'. What is proven. Nothing new remember? Just tried and trusted formula. Name me one genre of music invented in the 20th Century. You can't.
When Punk came along, the dinosaurs of the day like Genesis and Pink Floyd (and they are on record saying this) were shitting themselves. Their arguments were pretty much one and the same: Jesus, we are buried, the kids don't want to listen to our poncey 20 minute keyboard solos in G#minor, they just want to spike their hair and gob on each other while listening to that 3-Chord-Trick that Chuck Berry invented! It's an outrage! No, it's worse than an outrage, the kids don't want to listen to our music anymore and they will stop buying our records and coming to our concerts.
Which they did to a certain extent. They knew it would be laughable to die their hair pink and wear safety pins through their noses (maybe, just maybe, Davide Bowie could have got away with that, but he went a totally different direction. He was proto-punk anyway in some of his styles). So they were a bit fucked. Ironically, they never stopped selling albums and selling out concerts, they had a bit of a dip for sure, but it wasn't the great death they had envisioned. Who's ever heard of The UK Subs or Sham 69 these days? Oh, a few, but how many records have they sold?
The point is, they knew they were getting old. Just like I know I'm getting old. Like anyone with half a brain realises when they hit this point in life. Don't fight it, feel it. It's ok.
Today, I don't feel outclassed or intimidated by the kids making music. I just get fucking annoyed when they stole the music that I and my generation made, and claimed as their own. It's galling. Brb, got to take a blood pressure tablet. Ah.. better now. Where was I? Oh yeah, the kids.
This I can let go. It's frustrating, but c'est la guerre mon petit amis!
And now your second point. This is where it becomes downright sinister and we enter full on conspiracy mode.
Look, I get it that everyone is out for themselves and even the hippies and the boomers only took everything that was dear and sacred and bottled it and sold it back to us. For profit, more than fun, most the time. People are mercenary. That's ok.
What is not ok is the full-scale destruction of meaningful artifacts such as music and art and architecture, just to mirror the three important ones you mentioned red pillage.
First, music. Does anyone find it in anyway suspicious that someone that looks like a cock-eyed ginger pervert (you know who I'm referring to already don't you?) is mentioned 4 fucking times a day in the Daily Mail? He's on the BBC 2 times a day. The indy, The Gruaniad absolutely love him to bits dahling. Spare me! For every decent article I see on current/foreign affairs, I have to wade through about 6 about that cock-eyed ginger fucking pervert. His music is shit too. It's a psy-op.
The powers that be can not allow music to take a hold. It's the most important thing known to man next to food. Musicians are the new priests, and psychologists are the new rock-stars. That's something I've been meaning to write about for a while now. But I'll leave it there. There's a reason why the drummer boy and the pipe player lead the charge in to battle. It's rousing. Music also comforts us, and enlightens us. And they can't make it illegal like drugs. So they just found another way to destroy it.
They totally killed of the pub music scene in this country with stupid fucking laws. It even hit the pubs hard and they lost money. That and the smoking ban (I'm very anti-smoking btw, but let's not get in to that here). So they had to cater to people who had the money to buy food. And a new generation of corner-store alcoholics was born (hi-hi). Disenfranchised, alienated from the wider culture.
The music biz is a small world when you get to the top. They don't care if they make 30million a month from the cock-eyed ginger pervert's franchise, or a hundred 'punk' bands. In fact, the cock-eyed ginger pervert is easier to control. He can't believe his luck. "What, how did I get here?"
It's not by accident, it's by design.
Ditto the art world and all that sail in her and her rotten sunken ship.
The biggest crime against humanity though has been the architecture. It's one of my hobbies (Architectural visualisation) that I like to mess with when doing a bit of 3D. I appreciate good architecture. I also hate having to live in a box. We are reflections of our environment.
So yeah, dumbed down, sometimes outright destroyed, usurped, hi-jacked. All in the name of higher control of the vibrational energies present in all humans.
What is allowed is what sells. What can be bottled. Nothing too offensive. Just subversive enough, but not obviously so. Duh!
So yes, we are getting old. Gracefully, disgracefully. Whatever. But there is no doubt there has been a willful campaign from a war room somewhere to break people's spirits, all the while without them knowing they are broken. It's very Brave New World. It's very 1984. It's a bit Animal Farm. It's probably some other things as well.
Welcome to the 21st Century Dystopia kids! It's happening. Whether you like it or not. Whether you realise it or not. We are just merely noting this and voicing our frustration at things. It could have all been so much more. The music, the art, the architecture.
Damn, and now I'm getting old, and the best years of my life have passed. But that one is on me. You see, you can take personal responsibility, whilst at the same time taking an interest in the environment and the world around you. I want to see society succeed - I don't want to see it burn. Even if I fucked up so bad, for my own reasons, I still want to see other people not just happy, but thriving. It's an anti-dote to not becoming a bitter old cunt. The male equivalent to a cat lady.
And I don't want to become one of those boring old fart youtubers making videos about why 'the guitar is not dead', 'rock and roll is not dead' - yes it is grandad - fuck off. And don't call me a bitter old cunt when I'm just observing reality, and I make better music than you ever will in a million years. They talk a good fight, but can they walk it?
Which leads me on to say, I want to set some new things up. I want to make a change. I want to make a difference. I've been called out before on this very forum for making such statements, so let me up the ante a bit again. First, I apologize for coming across as a bit of an arsehole. I am. But if you can take the rough with the smooth with me, then you will get a bit of smooth eventually.
I've been working on a datasheet to set up some kind of music university here at RVF. Yeah, big ambitious project. I'll outline it elsewhere. I've been working on it for a while now. This post is already too long. Maybe I'll put a teaser up at 'everything else' in a bit describing it in a bit more detail, perhaps even getting some preliminary feedback.
Remember before when Trump was just getting elected? And everyone was saying how the right needed to start creating its own media. Well that never really happened. Not in earnest anyway. Not even in jest, it would seem. That needs to change. I'm not actually right wing, but like others such as AB have noted, it's virtually fucking impossible to play in the waters of the music 'industry' these days without having to bite your lip so hard it bleeds. All the while, they just assume that you are one of 'them'. And you have to listen to their pissy little jokes and tolerate the fucking bores. And now their music is boring too.
I know this will resonate with a lot of you (not just those that posted in this thread), but even those that have been mentioned in this thread. I'll try to get to that in a bit.