[Simeon_Strangelight]

RSD Julien is one of the guys assessed by men I know with massive Game as actually having some. RSD has a very diverse talent pool ranging from the spam approacher to the high-IQ behemoth with massive Game. Julien is closer to the latter despite all the controversy.

RSD has also evolved somewhat. They are not our enemy and they are not the enemy of men. Most Blue Pillers will profit more from visiting a RSD seminar and reading their content than about jointing Antifa and reading up on Vice and Buzzfeed.

In fact I would make the statement that RSD and us are pulling in the same direction of sanity despite some of the shortcomings of that company.

For example - what are chances that most RSD seminar visitors or readers would be voting for Hillary vs Trump? Right.... slim to none.

[hedonist]

(05-01-2018 02:43 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

RSD Julien is one of the guys assessed by men I know with massive Game as actually having some. RSD has a very diverse talent pool ranging from the spam approacher to the high-IQ behemoth with massive Game. Julien is closer to the latter despite all the controversy.

RSD has also evolved somewhat. They are not our enemy and they are not the enemy of men. Most Blue Pillers will profit more from visiting a RSD seminar and reading their content than about jointing Antifa and reading up on Vice and Buzzfeed.

In fact I would make the statement that RSD and us are pulling in the same direction of sanity despite some of the shortcomings of that company.

For example - what are chances that most RSD seminar visitors or readers would be voting for Hillary vs Trump? Right.... slim to none.

If shoving Japanese girls faces in your crouch or lying your sister was raped is the "upper echelon" of game then chimpanzees are looking more advanced than humans these days.

Not to mention getting butt hurt over a troll probably 99% of men wouldn't even swipe right on let alone agree to meet
https://jezebel.com/5981578/angry-texts-...-up-artist

The fact that multiple former instructors have called both the CEO frauds is red flag and that includes their own integrity.

They get zero fucks about men other than what $$$ and power they can gain from them.

[TooFineAPoint]

You really didn't address anything Zel actually said.

Who cares about the Japan video or the "CEO is a fraud" or if they give "zero fucks about men"? Don't buy from them then. Problem (related to you) solved.

If they are so stupid and bad as you say, then the dudes getting taken by them need and deserve that harsh life lesson.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

RSD is not that bad. I read old old articles from Owen when he was calling himself Tyler Durden. That bloke is very smart and very Red Pill:

Whether he has the best Game teaching school in the world - or even material is a different matter. Nick Krauser is in my opinion one of the best or even the best in terms of material. (KEEP IN MIND - not Game - there may be guys here who are far better individually)

And the crotch pull - let me say this - I have seen something similar work in a playful fashion in Europe. You just grab girls playfully at the neck and pull their heads down. The first time I tried this I was amazed that the girl did not run away screaming. My guess is that it is a dominating act when done in the right setting, that makes pussies wet. It bypasses the conscious awareness quickly - it's a bit similar to the playful smack after a shit-test or a light grab of the neck in a night-club. The mainstream media lynched him for some words that he uttered mindlessly and RSD may not have behaved the best way, but on the other hand they rode out the storm and are plugging away under the radar of the SJWs again.

Either way - RSD is still the biggest Game teaching school in the biz making millions. At best we can call their courses overpriced and their teachers very hit-and-miss. You can meet someone great and learn a lot from them or you meet a poser who was hired because someone mistook his night-club persistence or some individual skill for an actual teaching skill. There are also guys who can seduce women, but cannot teach other men well on how to become better at it themselves.

This wild west market of the seduction skill as well as the Red Pill lore will continue until there are universities established and huge social studies, controlled environments and double-blind studies (as limited as they are in that environment) are conducted. When that happens, then you will have a standardized scientifically assessed Game knowledge and it will be taught in school and at universities. It's comparable to old medicinal knowledge of the past before the scientific method - very very hit and miss.

But don't hold your breath that this will happen anytime soon. And I repeat - RSD is not the worst kid on block - most men will learn from it.

[Manwhore]

Lol some of you guys are pretty hilarious. That being said this is one of the only places I posted this and the response was fucking dismal. Coupled with the 7 day ban I got automatically for posting it, I lost interest.

Now I could sit here and just shit on all you guys back but that's not the point I was trying to make here. It doesn't bug you Julien is using gay shit on his readers? Y'all don't remember being impressionable youths? Isn't there some shit y'all just don't want on your resume? Like, uhh... sucking a dick?

I've coached hundreds of guys over the years. Kids are eating tide pods these days they are looking for direction from anywhere. This the message you want them to get? You guys gotta start looking out for something, anything other than just your pitiful ass selves.

This is ROOSH's forum. This is a political sphere. Roosh gets hung out to dry by the liberal-controlled media (ok he did attempt to legally justify rape, lol) for his message, but you've got one of the most well-known figures in the pu community running homosexual nlp on his readers and that doesn't strike you as wrong as fuck?

You doubt the relevance? I can personally attest that Julien is one of the GOAT's and that this is totally intentional.

Anyway.. whatever. Clearly this is not the forum I thought it was.

[bgbusiness]

During one of the live streams, I asked Roosh about his thoughts on Todd V Dating ( RSD Todd) starting his own YouTube channel and his own company, he told me that he doesn't know who it is.

I don't think Roosh really cares about RSD, but RSD has also helped me tremendously when I was first learning game. I don't think they are overall negative impact in the pickup community. It actually got me started.

Now I only watch Todd V and Luke though...

Mostly, I am more into RP concepts like Roosh, Entrepreneurs in Cars, Jordan Peterson and more of "macro" guys...

I can't watch Tyler/Julien/Max...too much marketing and just inauthentic.
Jeffy is better as he is more of no BS guy and just pure pickup.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-04-2018 12:16 AM)Manwhore Wrote:  

Lol some of you guys are pretty hilarious. That being said this is one of the only places I posted this and the response was fucking dismal. Coupled with the 7 day ban I got automatically for posting it, I lost interest.

Now I could sit here and just shit on all you guys back but that's not the point I was trying to make here. It doesn't bug you Julien is using gay shit on his readers? Y'all don't remember being impressionable youths? Isn't there some shit y'all just don't want on your resume? Like, uhh... sucking a dick?

I've coached hundreds of guys over the years. Kids are eating tide pods these days they are looking for direction from anywhere. This the message you want them to get? You guys gotta start looking out for something, anything other than just your pitiful ass selves.

This is ROOSH's forum. This is a political sphere. Roosh gets hung out to dry by the liberal-controlled media (ok he did attempt to legally justify rape, lol) for his message, but you've got one of the most well-known figures in the pu community running homosexual nlp on his readers and that doesn't strike you as wrong as fuck?

You doubt the relevance? I can personally attest that Julien is one of the GOAT's and that this is totally intentional.

Anyway.. whatever. Clearly this is not the forum I thought it was.

The forum tries to be reasonable and fair. RSD got plenty of shit for us how they handled the media debacle and full frontal attack. But ultimately bowing their heads in shame, begging for forgiveness and waiting for the storm to blow over turned out to be right. Maybe there could have been a better way to save face or not talk at all to the media and not comment at all, but we won't find out.

As for your article - I read through it - you go into RSD and then your own sales pitch afterwards. You base homo-innuendo on this:

Quote:

Let’s face it,

You’ve made a lot of mistakes in the past… BUT those mistakes have led you to the man you are NOW.

(^ Guilt/hope projection => Standard NLP or “street pimp” emotionally coercive tactic. E.g. shaming someone into compliance)

And that’s a good thing…

THE BAD THING TO DO IS: Dreading on what happened in the past and not moving on with your life… ultimately sabotaging your future success and happiness.

So how can you tell if you are not subconsciously doing the last-mentioned?

Father J has you covered

Those 2 statements are supposed to be proof that RSD is turning the younglings into butt-fuckers and dick-munchers.

Subliminal anchoring, NLP is used in Game since a long time, but how those two statements should turn you into a cum-guzzler while you are learning from a company to seduce and fuck girls is beneath me. It is infinitely easier to become gay and get a notch-count of 100 up. You need zero Game for that.

Nah man - we just disagree with your assessments that are based on nothing.

And why do you need to tarnish RSD to be successful yourself? Just do your thing. This baseless shit-slinging is only making you look bad.

[Fortis]

I'm really not understanding what we're supposed to be hyped up about, Manwhore. No reason to sling insults at us. I thought you were still associated with RSD, my bad for getting that wrong. I'm still not quite sure I see how he's pushing dudes in homosexuality. Can you explain this a bit better if you're being sincere about your desire to help dudes avoid homo conditioning?

[ksbms]

(04-29-2018 10:44 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

Re: NLP, isn't it like a scam? Like there's no scientific basis to its efficacy...? RSD always struck me as a bit scammy...

Correct. There's no empirical evidence for it. Just like numerology, astrology, religion and many other fads that attract people with no understanding of the scientific method.

[churros]

(06-04-2018 12:47 AM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

I can't watch Tyler/Julien/Max...too much marketing and just inauthentic.
Jeffy is better as he is more of no BS guy and just pure pickup.

Their new stuff is corporate garbage but Tyler's old videos are gold.

Did they finally fire Todd? lol

[pancakemouse]

(06-04-2018 12:16 AM)Manwhore Wrote:  

It doesn't bug you Julien is using gay shit on his readers?

Tinfoil hat forum is that way ---->

[JackinMelbourne]

t

(06-04-2018 12:16 AM)Manwhore Wrote:  

It doesn't bug you Julien is using gay shit on his readers? Y'all don't remember being impressionable youths?

It's not obvious enough to be intentionally subversive, even to experienced peeps. Him and the ginge use gay shit for lols sometimes. Not sold yet manho... do you have any other examples?

[asdfk]

Not obvious enough?

"Tyler Gives It To You RAW: Dumps A Load Of Potent Wisdom Deep Inside You To Create New Life"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERrPo4boNUo

[JackinMelbourne]

(06-07-2018 03:00 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

Not obvious enough?

"Tyler Gives It To You RAW: Dumps A Load Of Potent Wisdom Deep Inside You To Create New Life"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERrPo4boNUo

That's straight up for laughs and clickbaiting, if you watch the guy's videos you'll understand his humour... or maybe not. Maybe he's grooming all the incels to become batty boys...