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Perseverance. How much?
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Perseverance. How much?

If a girl doesn't reply to your first text do you try again later, like after 2 days?

If a girl is saying she needs to think if he wants to get on a date with you, do you hit her again later?

Some say forget about them, other say they get laid after trying multiple times. What do you do?

For ex., last night an 8.5 philosophy 20 years old student, hit on me. The first time a girl that hot hit on me, that I thought she and her friend was trying to play a prank or something.

Anyway, I blew the chance to fuck her intentionally I think. We got out of the club, kissing, talked about sex, etc for more than 1 hour and I just didn't want to get home with her for some reason...I can't even remember why. Before she left, she asked if I have her number and I said yes.

In the afternoon, I texted her and got no response. By the way the interaction went, I was 100% I'll close the deal in the coming days, but maybe I'm wrong. She's the "crazy and hot" type.

This is not the first time it happens. Happened multiple times, but I never tried a 2nd time.

What do you guys do in these cases? do you try again multiple times?
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#2

Perseverance. How much?

If a girl doesn't respond to your texts you're basically toast man. Every once in a while I send a cheeky restart text but about 1 in 50 times it has lead to a bang. Some of these are girls I've fucked before, some are ghosts

From a previous thread

"Sure, make sure to bring those red heels"

Makes her hamster tick. Most often she will reply "whos this" or "wait what". I always say "wrong person don't worry about it". Super low success rate and I honestly do it lately just to troll girls and give them FOMO. If they inquire after that it's game on. Hit them up the next day saying how "meh" your date was, elude to challenging her to do better.

Other one "this might be weird but I had a dream about you last night". If she replies "whos this" you're done, it also makes you look over invested bitch most the time. If she responds positively tell her a story, paint her a picture. Mundane at first and build to kinky at the end. Get her wet

If a girl stops texting you she didn't forget about you, she's not "bad at texting" she wasn't "busy" she just isn't interested and it's a real uphill battle and your prize for winning it may be pussy but mostly complete loss of frame.


At least that's my experience. I'm sure there's a talented restart texter here but it's never been good for me.
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#3

Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-26-2018 03:28 AM)bewater Wrote:  

If a girl doesn't reply to your first text do you try again later, like after 2 days?

If a girl is saying she needs to think if he wants to get on a date with you, do you hit her again later?

Some say forget about them, other say they get laid after trying multiple times. What do you do?

For ex., last night an 8.5 philosophy 20 years old student, hit on me. The first time a girl that hot hit on me, that I thought she and her friend was trying to play a prank or something.

Anyway, I blew the chance to fuck her intentionally I think. We got out of the club, kissing, talked about sex, etc for more than 1 hour and I just didn't want to get home with her for some reason...I can't even remember why. Before she left, she asked if I have her number and I said yes.

In the afternoon, I texted her and got no response. By the way the interaction went, I was 100% I'll close the deal in the coming days, but maybe I'm wrong. She's the "crazy and hot" type.

This is not the first time it happens. Happened multiple times, but I never tried a 2nd time.

What do you guys do in these cases? do you try again multiple times?

Maybe she felt you didn't like her that night at the club. An attractive girl that's not used to been rejected doesn't take it well. Inside the club you were good enough to her to fuck. She figured you were the "guy" she was gonna fuck that night. You rejected her offer for sex. She's not a guy, she barely knows you so she wont be chasing you down to meet up later. You blew your chance in the moment. In the future, if an attractive girl is talking to you and she seems like she is into you. Do not stop what you're doing. Go with it and try to pull her to your place or hers. Fuck her and then decide if you want to keep her around.

This falls into the category of Yes, No and Maybe girls.
You are trying to turn a girl that was a yes during the night, that changed into a maybe girl in the day.
Don't bother texting her. Its a waste. Learn from this and move forward. The chances of a girl suddenly realizing you are a great catch and replying to your texts is slim to none. Stop thinking about turning back the clock on failed interactions with girls. It will drive you insane. Dissect the situation, what you did right and how you fucked it up. Make an effort to make less mistakes and try again.

Why were you going out if you weren't open to fucking an attractive girl?
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#4

Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-26-2018 04:50 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

Why were you going out if you weren't open to fucking an attractive girl?

Why were you going out if you weren't open to fucking an attractive girl?

Why were you going out if you weren't open to fucking an attractive girl?
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Perseverance. How much?

@kinjutsu:

Yes, I fucked it up really bad. I'm not really sure what I thought at the moment, but I was kinda intimidated i think, I wasn't used with this bold approach by a girl that hot(I'm like a 6, she's a 8.5, even 9 for some...great body and face). Plus my logistics were not great, sleeping at a friend with family there until my apartment renovation is finished. But that's an excuse, I could go to her place....but I think the main reason was that I'm having big ED issues with new girls and I think I didn't wanted to mess it up with a hot girl...I thought next day I will be more prepared, taking some pills or something, etc.

The more I think the more I realize she was really into me. I was thinking if a girl says here's my number before splitting up without you asking, she expects you to contact her...

One reason I was thinking is that maybe she didn't know who sent the message.
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#7

Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-26-2018 05:33 AM)bewater Wrote:  

@kinjutsu:

Yes, I fucked it up really bad. I'm not really sure what I thought at the moment, but I was kinda intimidated i think, I wasn't used with this bold approach by a girl that hot

I'm like a 6

This is your issue. Your confidence is more than lacking. The mentality you should have is I'm the shit, I'm the prize, I am unstoppable.

Your confidence will come in time. Fake it til you make it.

Let your experiences be your guide to fulfilling your goals; no matter if it's sleeping with more women, hitting a new PR for your squats, etc.

If you experience failure, change something in your routine or interactions until you experience success. Then rinse and repeat until you are well seasoned and able to get what you want.

It all comes with time, learn through trial and error. Read the forum, dive into all sorts of threads, and ASK QUESTIONS.

We are all here to help.

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#8

Perseverance. How much?

No harm in trying.

I've been ghosted only to get a bang 1 or 2 years later out of the blue because they were feeling lonely.

Keep having a shot occasionally but stop short of going full retard (no long walls of text) because you'll embarrass yourself. The good part is even if you do embarrass yourself, they'll forget after a while or you'll just get blocked so it won't matter if you try again occasionally.
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#9

Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-26-2018 05:33 AM)bewater Wrote:  

@kinjutsu:

Yes, I fucked it up really bad. I'm not really sure what I thought at the moment, but I was kinda intimidated i think, I wasn't used with this bold approach by a girl that hot(I'm like a 6, she's a 8.5, even 9 for some...great body and face). Plus my logistics were not great, sleeping at a friend with family there until my apartment renovation is finished. But that's an excuse, I could go to her place....but I think the main reason was that I'm having big ED issues with new girls and I think I didn't wanted to mess it up with a hot girl...I thought next day I will be more prepared, taking some pills or something, etc.

The more I think the more I realize she was really into me. I was thinking if a girl says here's my number before splitting up without you asking, she expects you to contact her...

One reason I was thinking is that maybe she didn't know who sent the message.

If you are having ED issues...stop fapping to porn. Seriously cut it out completely. After a few days you'll have trouble keeping it down around girls.
Limit yourself to 1 day a week. Only in the shower. Use your imagination instead of the internet.

Also like stated, your confidence is a big issue here.
If you don't believe you are worthy of a hot babe then you wont be.
She clearly saw something in you so not all hope is lost.

If a girl tries to confirm you have her number then yes she wants you to contact her...however there's ALOT more you could've done to seal the deal for later on.
Go back to her and say "i'm not sure, lets take a photo together" and get her to text it to you.
Grab her ass as she's taking the photo so she makes a funny face in the picture.
Get her to put your name in her phone as "cool bewater"
Then when you open your phone save her number as "the dork _______"

This works nearly 100% of the time for me.
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#10

Perseverance. How much?

Thank you guys. This really helps. Even if they are very low chances, I will try again on the weekend.

Lesson learned...no matter how good the interaction is, if a hot girl chooses to go home with you from all the guys that hit on her and you don't do that, you fucked it up.

It would have been a big confidence boost to close the deal with this hottie, but there's no reason to analyse it anymore.

About ED issue... I need to see how it is with a new girl, last girl i've been with was quite a while ago, but yes, I'm trying to not fap to porn anymore, even though I tried multiple times and relapsed.
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#11

Perseverance. How much?

Oh yes that’s a problem. Quit porn cold turkey. There was another thread with a recording about how to deprogram your self to get yourself to agree that you are much better off without porn in your life
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#12

Perseverance. How much?

Since we have this discussion going, she just accepted me on Instagram and I want to contact her there.

I was a bit surprised of her Instagram photos, most of her photos have a sexual connotation like she's trying to show she's a "bad" and sexual type of girl, giving a slut vibe.

What do you guys think it's a good "restart" message?
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#13

Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-27-2018 04:39 AM)bewater Wrote:  

Since we have this discussion going, she just accepted me on Instagram and I want to contact her there.

I was a bit surprised of her Instagram photos, most of her photos have a sexual connotation like she's trying to show she's a "bad" and sexual type of girl, giving a slut vibe.

What do you guys think it's a good "restart" message?

Several possibilities, I like the ones Eugenics suggested in this thread. Whatever you do though, don't comment on those Instagram pictures, don't even make it known that you've seen them.

I'm currently dealing with a perseverance issue myself. I'll risk derailing your thread, but since the thread is about perseverance, it's somewhat related.

I currently have a girl in rotation (if you can even call it that) that takes a lot of perseverance on my end, even after several bangs.

We've met up 4 times in a 3 months timespan. So again, hardly any rotation to speak of. We do bang every time we meet, and hard. I bang the living shit out of her in a marathon fuck session. I tie her up, spank her, give her every trick in the book, she cums several times and fucking loves it.

Yet she then still proceeds to ghost for weeks on end.

When I'm with her, she says I'm the only one that's banging her and she's simply very busy. I don't care if I'm the only one or not, she's not my girlfriend and won't ever be. She also knows I'm banging other girls too, doesn't seem to give a shit. We both know the deal.

The time in between bangs, she never initiates texts at all. Which is fine to me, I'm not a big texter myself and prefer to have conversations in real life. She does, however, reply every time I restart and there's a short but pleasant conversation. This happens about once a week.

What's bothering me is the amount of effort I have to put in to arranging every meetup.

I find myself pushing for a meetup more than I'd like to. I wont lie; This girl is one of the hotter ones I'm currently banging and the sex is awesome. I want to increase the frequency from once a month to let's say once a week. I repeat: I don't have anything serious planned with her, just want to bang more.

The current situation:

I'm very careful to not lose frame, but the restart texts do have to come from me every single time. As soon as I notice (or she outright tells me) that she's too busy to meet that day, I say "no worries", peace out and ghost her for 7-10 days, then restart again.

Every once in a while, she does bite. We meet up, have dinner and bang. Rinse and repeat.

It's getting tiring to keep playing this aloof game with LITERALLY zero initiative or feedback from her side. Not. A. Single. Message. Yet every time we do meet up, I dominate the hell out of her and she's all over me.

Who's playing who here?

Any tips?
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Perseverance. How much?

Why are you spending all this time thinking about this one girl?
Forget her and meet other girls and maybe you'll find another girl who's interest level is higher.
These girls are the biggest time wasters.
Just around barely enough so you don't forget them and obsess over them. In reality she's fucking other dudes and you're her 4th or 5th option.
Either way just go about your life and meet other girls that like you enough to text you randomly. If this girl texts you to fuck then fuck her but you should match her level of interest. If she's not doing that then pull away.



Also for the record, if you have time to think about what you're doing with her to not mess things up and she's not giving back value then she's a waste of time.
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Perseverance. How much?

Quote: (04-26-2018 03:28 AM)bewater Wrote:  

If a girl doesn't reply to your first text do you try again later, like after 2 days?

If a girl is saying she needs to think if he wants to get on a date with you, do you hit her again later?

Some say forget about them, other say they get laid after trying multiple times. What do you do?

For ex., last night an 8.5 philosophy 20 years old student, hit on me. The first time a girl that hot hit on me, that I thought she and her friend was trying to play a prank or something.

Anyway, I blew the chance to fuck her intentionally I think. We got out of the club, kissing, talked about sex, etc for more than 1 hour and I just didn't want to get home with her for some reason...I can't even remember why. Before she left, she asked if I have her number and I said yes.

In the afternoon, I texted her and got no response. By the way the interaction went, I was 100% I'll close the deal in the coming days, but maybe I'm wrong. She's the "crazy and hot" type.

This is not the first time it happens. Happened multiple times, but I never tried a 2nd time.

What do you guys do in these cases? do you try again multiple times?

Bang like there's no tomorrow...cause odds are there aint.

You lit the fuse and girl was DTF but you didn't close?

Of course she didnt respond. In her mind this is who texted her

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This worked for me today. It's kind of a weird case as before this screenshot I had invited her out a couple times and she pulled the too busy card so I called her out and in typical female fashion she was like "yeah ok" and I'm sure she had no intention of hitting me back up. So I needed to restart the conversation without looking like a bitch. I sent probably 15 of these red heels texts to leads in the past week this is the only girl that bit.

Things worked out pretty perfectly, I don't plan this shit. I just saw an emotional in and I went with it. Her jealousy showed? BAM that's a fucking in. That means she likes me, that means she wants something and is afraid she isn't going to get it. Once i saw the "I'm not jealous, I like you" etc it was game on. I pushed and pulled via text the rest day and I got her pretty good. I mentioned that I wanted to meet her again at some point she was like "I thought you had red heels chick"? I said "yeah, and two more. Why, you trying to hold me down? It takes a lot babygirl". Hamster overdrive, she's trying to figure out why the fuck I would admit to having 3 girls, she's trying to figure out why she even cares, she's trying to figure out why she's attracted, jealous, and intrigued. Her hamster is doing all this work for me I don't even have to do. Frame is set for her to chase me, she knows I'm the prize just like I do. Best part? I don't even have any hoes like that right now, maybe 1 down girl. Cracks me up. I have this girl sending me nudes and calling me daddy now. Bang is pretty imminent.

With the red heels restart text it's a combination of DHV and not losing frame. It's a good tool to have. I wanted to post to show that stuff like I said above can and does work it's just not always going to work. It's not going to work most the time probably unless there's something there.


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Nice work Eugenics!

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