Well I don't know, but I was virgin until my 20's and had a single partner up to my 40. I followed some advises in books and here and I can bang more new chicks now in a week, than in my previous 40 years. So if it is not game, I know that there are things you can learn.
Does game exist?
Does game exist? Define game.
If you think it means learning what to say in order to get hot girls to sleep with you, or following a series of steps to that effect, then no, not really.
If you think it means improving yourself so that are as confident/cool/fun/present/sociable/flirtatious/experienced/sensual/good at banter etc as possible, and you don't let trout rattle you with their nonsense, and, if one doesn't work out, then you're cool with it and move onto the next, then, well, what do you think?
Sure, a fragment of game is indeed learning some lines and stock responses for recurring situations, but that's a teeny part of it.
I can tell you this for sure: Chad Thundercock gets rejected too, even with tight game. Main difference is, he probably doesn't give it a second thought after "it's her loss. she's probably a lesbian with HIV anyway. I'm awesome. next."
I used to do some work for an ugly little goat of a man, call him Dave. Dave had nothing going for him looks-wise apart from being quite strong, but he was still short, chubby, potato faced, with somewhat bad teeth. And he was a serial failure in business who would often make a little money and blow it all buying rounds in the pub.
He was also the life and soul of the party. Naturally high energy, he bantered everywhere with everyone, switching easily from sincerity to silliness as appropriate, and was considered a right charmer by posh and working class folk alike. He could rattle off funny stories (I bet he made half of them up), sing hearty songs as he played guitar (his singing voice was decent, his guitar playing wasn't), organise events and sell himself to customers. Shame he couldn't run a business longer than two months to save his life.
Well, I guarantee you that he has never read anything about game. In fact, he's hardly read anything. If you tried to talk to him about gaming girls, he wouldn't have a clue what you were on about. And he slayed pussy. Most of it was mediocre, I'll grant you, but a fair bit of it was decent quality trout, and I never saw him bang a real fugly/fatty. I know for sure that he had a 3some with a pair of 6s, and banged a good looking married girl. He didn't do anything special with women, other than touching them more than he would normally. He was going through life being Dave, and when a girl he liked crossed his path, he carried on being Dave in her direction until something happened or he got the cold shoulder, which obviously happened more often than the former, but he didn't care.
He had something of the nature of a happy dog about him: he could get shot down by women or customers or whatever, and a minute later he'd be wagging his tail and off searching for more dog biscuits.
Dave ended up having two kids with a decent looking and lovely, feminine girl, from a good and wealthy family (Dave came from nothing - I met him through mutual friends who knew him since he was effectively abandoned at age 13) who financially enabled him to be fun-loving, moderate fuck-up who spends a lot of time with his kids. She got pissed off enough with his antics after about 10 years to not want to share a house with him anymore, and so her family bought him a wee flat just down the road. Now he bangs who he likes, sees his kids every day, and still services their mum from time to time.
You may never be Chad Thundercock, but I'm willing to bet you have better genes than chubby old Dave. Dave was dealt a raw hand by birth, and yet his zest for living is both infectious and magnetic. If that's not game, I don't know what it is. And neither does Dave.
If you think it means learning what to say in order to get hot girls to sleep with you, or following a series of steps to that effect, then no, not really.
If you think it means improving yourself so that are as confident/cool/fun/present/sociable/flirtatious/experienced/sensual/good at banter etc as possible, and you don't let trout rattle you with their nonsense, and, if one doesn't work out, then you're cool with it and move onto the next, then, well, what do you think?
Sure, a fragment of game is indeed learning some lines and stock responses for recurring situations, but that's a teeny part of it.
I can tell you this for sure: Chad Thundercock gets rejected too, even with tight game. Main difference is, he probably doesn't give it a second thought after "it's her loss. she's probably a lesbian with HIV anyway. I'm awesome. next."
I used to do some work for an ugly little goat of a man, call him Dave. Dave had nothing going for him looks-wise apart from being quite strong, but he was still short, chubby, potato faced, with somewhat bad teeth. And he was a serial failure in business who would often make a little money and blow it all buying rounds in the pub.
He was also the life and soul of the party. Naturally high energy, he bantered everywhere with everyone, switching easily from sincerity to silliness as appropriate, and was considered a right charmer by posh and working class folk alike. He could rattle off funny stories (I bet he made half of them up), sing hearty songs as he played guitar (his singing voice was decent, his guitar playing wasn't), organise events and sell himself to customers. Shame he couldn't run a business longer than two months to save his life.
Well, I guarantee you that he has never read anything about game. In fact, he's hardly read anything. If you tried to talk to him about gaming girls, he wouldn't have a clue what you were on about. And he slayed pussy. Most of it was mediocre, I'll grant you, but a fair bit of it was decent quality trout, and I never saw him bang a real fugly/fatty. I know for sure that he had a 3some with a pair of 6s, and banged a good looking married girl. He didn't do anything special with women, other than touching them more than he would normally. He was going through life being Dave, and when a girl he liked crossed his path, he carried on being Dave in her direction until something happened or he got the cold shoulder, which obviously happened more often than the former, but he didn't care.
He had something of the nature of a happy dog about him: he could get shot down by women or customers or whatever, and a minute later he'd be wagging his tail and off searching for more dog biscuits.
Dave ended up having two kids with a decent looking and lovely, feminine girl, from a good and wealthy family (Dave came from nothing - I met him through mutual friends who knew him since he was effectively abandoned at age 13) who financially enabled him to be fun-loving, moderate fuck-up who spends a lot of time with his kids. She got pissed off enough with his antics after about 10 years to not want to share a house with him anymore, and so her family bought him a wee flat just down the road. Now he bangs who he likes, sees his kids every day, and still services their mum from time to time.
You may never be Chad Thundercock, but I'm willing to bet you have better genes than chubby old Dave. Dave was dealt a raw hand by birth, and yet his zest for living is both infectious and magnetic. If that's not game, I don't know what it is. And neither does Dave.
Alpha men laugh at you when you tell them I read "Game" and call you a cuck.
Alpha men are natural role models. They are not obsessed with gaming women. They naturally lead and women love that
Alpha men are natural role models. They are not obsessed with gaming women. They naturally lead and women love that
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Only on Sundays. That's when the "holy shit" happens.
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Quote: (04-09-2018 06:49 PM)PondScum Wrote:
Does game exist? Define game.
If you think it means learning what to say in order to get hot girls to sleep with you, or following a series of steps to that effect, then no, not really.
If you think it means improving yourself so that are as confident/cool/fun/present/sociable/flirtatious/experienced/sensual/good at banter etc as possible, and you don't let trout rattle you with their nonsense, and, if one doesn't work out, then you're cool with it and move onto the next, then, well, what do you think?
Sure, a fragment of game is indeed learning some lines and stock responses for recurring situations, but that's a teeny part of it.
I can tell you this for sure: Chad Thundercock gets rejected too, even with tight game. Main difference is, he probably doesn't give it a second thought after "it's her loss. she's probably a lesbian with HIV anyway. I'm awesome. next."
I used to do some work for an ugly little goat of a man, call him Dave. Dave had nothing going for him looks-wise apart from being quite strong, but he was still short, chubby, potato faced, with somewhat bad teeth. And he was a serial failure in business who would often make a little money and blow it all buying rounds in the pub.
He was also the life and soul of the party. Naturally high energy, he bantered everywhere with everyone, switching easily from sincerity to silliness as appropriate, and was considered a right charmer by posh and working class folk alike. He could rattle off funny stories (I bet he made half of them up), sing hearty songs as he played guitar (his singing voice was decent, his guitar playing wasn't), organise events and sell himself to customers. Shame he couldn't run a business longer than two months to save his life.
Well, I guarantee you that he has never read anything about game. In fact, he's hardly read anything. If you tried to talk to him about gaming girls, he wouldn't have a clue what you were on about. And he slayed pussy. Most of it was mediocre, I'll grant you, but a fair bit of it was decent quality trout, and I never saw him bang a real fugly/fatty. I know for sure that he had a 3some with a pair of 6s, and banged a good looking married girl. He didn't do anything special with women, other than touching them more than he would normally. He was going through life being Dave, and when a girl he liked crossed his path, he carried on being Dave in her direction until something happened or he got the cold shoulder, which obviously happened more often than the former, but he didn't care.
He had something of the nature of a happy dog about him: he could get shot down by women or customers or whatever, and a minute later he'd be wagging his tail and off searching for more dog biscuits.
Dave ended up having two kids with a decent looking and lovely, feminine girl, from a good and wealthy family (Dave came from nothing - I met him through mutual friends who knew him since he was effectively abandoned at age 13) who financially enabled him to be fun-loving, moderate fuck-up who spends a lot of time with his kids. She got pissed off enough with his antics after about 10 years to not want to share a house with him anymore, and so her family bought him a wee flat just down the road. Now he bangs who he likes, sees his kids every day, and still services their mum from time to time.
You may never be Chad Thundercock, but I'm willing to bet you have better genes than chubby old Dave. Dave was dealt a raw hand by birth, and yet his zest for living is both infectious and magnetic. If that's not game, I don't know what it is. And neither does Dave.
Your problem (and the problem of many others on here and elsewhere) is that you make incorrect assumptions in terms of assessing what girls find physically attractive. That toothless slightly chubby wide short guy? Girls love him. They find him alpha. Judging by your description of Dave, he passed the alpha test, which is the only reason he got girls. You described him as "strong" and that is all I need to hear to know that he passed the alpha test. I have personal experience of this: I have seen TONS of short, wide slightly fat ugly faced bald guys with hot girls. I was always an above average guy in terms of face. I was also not short. My only problem is that I was super skinny. When I was younger (i.e. high school) I was able to get girls. But in college girls no long give good looking/cute guys a chance. By that age they are full on women and physical attraction is only determined to them by an alpha/big body. So I got overlooked for guys much uglier than me, just because they were not skinny. Since then I have started to lift and I have gotten less skinny. After I put on the weight the quality of women who were open to giving me a chance went up by around 3 points. My face is a 6/7 but while I was skinny I was chased by girls who were 3s. Now, in real life, some girls who are 6s would give me a chance. Even if I didn't bang at least they gave me dates. When I was skinny I never was even able to get a date, they just friendzoned or shut me down instantly. My behaviour around them was exactly the same. The difference was night and day. If I can continue gaining weight, then I will unlock a higher quality of girls, i.e. 7s and maybe 8s. No amount of "game" is going to unlock that: only raw muscle mass will.
There is a 0-10 scale, and then there is your level of alphaness. The quality of girls on this scale you can unlock is based on your level of alphaness (which is determined by how your body looks physically, aka physical attraction). Perhaps game can increase QUANTITY, but not QUALITY. But even then, I would not even call it "game," I would just call it putting yourself out there. Other than extremes (i.e. acting autistic and blowing your chances with a girl that your alphaness allows you to fuck) or very borderline cases (you are competing against a similar level looking guy who has less game), game is irrelevant. So perhaps game exists, but it is extremely overrated. In reality, let's say if the threshold for getting a fuck was 50%, it is 90% physical attraction, 10% game. So even if you score 10/10 out of game, you would still be 40 points below the threshold to get the fuck, which you would need physical attraction to reach.
Also, you guys are missing the fact that even if "game" exists, it COMES FROM having an alpha body. A guy's confidence is BASED on the LEVEL of the alphaness of his physical body. How often do you see a skinny nerd coming into the room and saying "where my hoes at bitches?" But you do see this with alpha bodied guys, whether they are muscular or just wide/big. So "game" is just an extension of confidence which is an extension of alphaness which is an extention of a man's physical body. So all those examples people make of "ugly guys" who use "game" to pick up girls... double check his body... it is alpha.. doesn't matter if his face is ugly girls don't care about that. Girls only care about alphaness... come on that is a red pill basic.
Alright, mate, have fun arguing with yourself. I'm sure you'll win.
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