[a beer is enough]

(03-04-2019 01:29 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 09:33 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 03:46 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 09:35 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

So things have definitely changed when it comes to gaming Indian women for me. On Hinge, I have had about 30 or so matches ever since I got to the Big Apple and about 2/3 of them have been Indian and some of them have been sexy. Noticed a big difference too between Hinge and other apps, it seems like on Hinge I tend to match more and more with Indian girls.

Starting to get more IOIs from some of them in public too.

Here is how my view has shifted from what I originally said in this thread.

Western white girls are fair game IMO, especially the typical basic girl types. I see them dating out interracial now more than ever, just a couple days ago saw a cute blonde with a beanie out with a hipsterish brown guy. Redheads seem to really have a thing for brown guys and darker guys in general though.

European girls are a mixed bag, I've shared my horrible experiences with German and Dutch women. Gaming Mediterranean women is also a waste of time as well.

Black girls and Latinas are also fair game, I'll say as mentioned on different threads that black women do not discriminate too much. I find that non-white Latinas are also not all that big on race if a guy is cool.

I used to think Indian girls were hard to game but not anymore, definitely had some luck with them, even with the stuck-up lighter-skinned ones. Not sure what happened in the past few years but there are definitely a sizable number of westernized Indian girls that are cool with going for a brown guy.

Asian girls seem to be opening up to us more too, I have seen a sizable number of Asian girls with Indian guys. Obviously some are all about going white but there are a sizable number of them open to going for an Indian dude.

I think the toughest race for Indian guys to game are non-Indian brown girls. Pakistani, Middle Eastern, Arab, and Persian girls are hostile. They seem to only want white guys when going interracial. I'll also say that women in general with that look are a bit more closed off.

I have met Eastern European women with that kind of a look who are hostile too. It seems like with Caucasian women from certain swarthier groups, there is a strong preference for the blond hair blue eyed guys because they don't want to darken up their white gene pools anymore.

With Middle Eastern women, I don't think it is a game or cultural issue. They just hate darker skinned people in general and wish to be as white as possible, hence why I have never seen or met an Indian guy pull from that background, at least not regularly.

Outside of that, plenty of opportunities to be had.

Aren’t Middle Eastern people the most narcissistic, egotistical and hypocritical people on earth ?

But yeah, bro, I’m happy your brown sisters are returning to base.

TDK

Not the people, just the women, the dudes are some pretty chill guys. If anything, I kind of feel for them because I think the westernized ones are going through what Asian guys have been going through for quite some time, seeing guys of other races poach their women for ONS and flings. I've rarely met westernized women from that part of the world who are open to going for men of their own background but then again, the guys themselves aren't hurting for options either and seem to have plenty of choices when going interracial, especially with white women.

Yeah I think as soon as dudes like Hasan Minhaj and Zayn started to become popular, brown girls started returning more to base. Even with the couple brown girls I have been on dates with who have gone interracial more than they have Indian guys, it was usually either because that is what they grew up around or because the Indian dudes in their area sucked.

From my own recent experiences, I have no doubt that a brown brother with his shit together and tight game can clean up with some top-tier Indian girls these days. Funny how times change so fast, or maybe I was not seeing something before.

Lol USA must be different than UK. In UK middle eastern women just stay with Middle Eastern dudes. That being said, I don't see that many young middle eastern couples most are direct from their homelands.

TDK

Yeah that was my point, I was not talking FOBs, I was talking people born here and raised in the west. On one hand I get that it makes sense for women to fall for whatever is the dominant group but I seem to find it note in some groups where the hottest women who are westernized are actively avoiding men of their own background.

I've been on a couple dates with Indian girls that went interracial or rarely went for Indian men but it made sense in their case since they grew up in areas with almost no Indians.

Either ways, I am a happy camper so far.

Still looking to travel international in a couple years.

[beer pongs]

(03-05-2019 10:35 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 01:29 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 09:33 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 03:46 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 09:35 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

So things have definitely changed when it comes to gaming Indian women for me. On Hinge, I have had about 30 or so matches ever since I got to the Big Apple and about 2/3 of them have been Indian and some of them have been sexy. Noticed a big difference too between Hinge and other apps, it seems like on Hinge I tend to match more and more with Indian girls.

Starting to get more IOIs from some of them in public too.

Here is how my view has shifted from what I originally said in this thread.

Western white girls are fair game IMO, especially the typical basic girl types. I see them dating out interracial now more than ever, just a couple days ago saw a cute blonde with a beanie out with a hipsterish brown guy. Redheads seem to really have a thing for brown guys and darker guys in general though.

European girls are a mixed bag, I've shared my horrible experiences with German and Dutch women. Gaming Mediterranean women is also a waste of time as well.

Black girls and Latinas are also fair game, I'll say as mentioned on different threads that black women do not discriminate too much. I find that non-white Latinas are also not all that big on race if a guy is cool.

I used to think Indian girls were hard to game but not anymore, definitely had some luck with them, even with the stuck-up lighter-skinned ones. Not sure what happened in the past few years but there are definitely a sizable number of westernized Indian girls that are cool with going for a brown guy.

Asian girls seem to be opening up to us more too, I have seen a sizable number of Asian girls with Indian guys. Obviously some are all about going white but there are a sizable number of them open to going for an Indian dude.

I think the toughest race for Indian guys to game are non-Indian brown girls. Pakistani, Middle Eastern, Arab, and Persian girls are hostile. They seem to only want white guys when going interracial. I'll also say that women in general with that look are a bit more closed off.

I have met Eastern European women with that kind of a look who are hostile too. It seems like with Caucasian women from certain swarthier groups, there is a strong preference for the blond hair blue eyed guys because they don't want to darken up their white gene pools anymore.

With Middle Eastern women, I don't think it is a game or cultural issue. They just hate darker skinned people in general and wish to be as white as possible, hence why I have never seen or met an Indian guy pull from that background, at least not regularly.

Outside of that, plenty of opportunities to be had.

Aren’t Middle Eastern people the most narcissistic, egotistical and hypocritical people on earth ?

But yeah, bro, I’m happy your brown sisters are returning to base.

TDK

Not the people, just the women, the dudes are some pretty chill guys. If anything, I kind of feel for them because I think the westernized ones are going through what Asian guys have been going through for quite some time, seeing guys of other races poach their women for ONS and flings. I've rarely met westernized women from that part of the world who are open to going for men of their own background but then again, the guys themselves aren't hurting for options either and seem to have plenty of choices when going interracial, especially with white women.

Yeah I think as soon as dudes like Hasan Minhaj and Zayn started to become popular, brown girls started returning more to base. Even with the couple brown girls I have been on dates with who have gone interracial more than they have Indian guys, it was usually either because that is what they grew up around or because the Indian dudes in their area sucked.

From my own recent experiences, I have no doubt that a brown brother with his shit together and tight game can clean up with some top-tier Indian girls these days. Funny how times change so fast, or maybe I was not seeing something before.

Lol USA must be different than UK. In UK middle eastern women just stay with Middle Eastern dudes. That being said, I don't see that many young middle eastern couples most are direct from their homelands.

TDK

I've been on a couple dates with Indian girls that went interracial or rarely went for Indian men but it made sense in their case since they grew up in areas with almost no Indians.

Indian women are possibly the most materialistic, narcissistic group of women I have ever encountered. The ones in the West whether FOB or American/Westernized for the most part date white, black or hispanic men; they outright reject men from their own culture.

I thought American women were awful, but Indian women take the cake for the worst women in the world.

[thedarkknight]

(03-07-2019 07:15 PM)beer pongs Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:35 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 01:29 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 09:33 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 03:46 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

Aren’t Middle Eastern people the most narcissistic, egotistical and hypocritical people on earth ?

But yeah, bro, I’m happy your brown sisters are returning to base.

TDK

Not the people, just the women, the dudes are some pretty chill guys. If anything, I kind of feel for them because I think the westernized ones are going through what Asian guys have been going through for quite some time, seeing guys of other races poach their women for ONS and flings. I've rarely met westernized women from that part of the world who are open to going for men of their own background but then again, the guys themselves aren't hurting for options either and seem to have plenty of choices when going interracial, especially with white women.

Yeah I think as soon as dudes like Hasan Minhaj and Zayn started to become popular, brown girls started returning more to base. Even with the couple brown girls I have been on dates with who have gone interracial more than they have Indian guys, it was usually either because that is what they grew up around or because the Indian dudes in their area sucked.

From my own recent experiences, I have no doubt that a brown brother with his shit together and tight game can clean up with some top-tier Indian girls these days. Funny how times change so fast, or maybe I was not seeing something before.

Lol USA must be different than UK. In UK middle eastern women just stay with Middle Eastern dudes. That being said, I don't see that many young middle eastern couples most are direct from their homelands.

TDK

I've been on a couple dates with Indian girls that went interracial or rarely went for Indian men but it made sense in their case since they grew up in areas with almost no Indians.

Indian women are possibly the most materialistic, narcissistic group of women I have ever encountered. The ones in the West whether FOB or American/Westernized for the most part date white, black or hispanic men; they outright reject men from their own culture.

I thought American women were awful, but Indian women take the cake for the worst women in the world.

That's a bit harsh.

Aren't Arab or North East Asian women the most materialistic?

TDK

[ZoroZingzzz]

I always feel like I have a big advantage with Indian girls abroad as a Punjabi guy, especially the ones that grew up in India but now live abroad and especially as a game aware, Western raised Punjabi guy.

I wouldn't say that I feel that my ancestry makes me feel I have an advantage with *any* other group, though Spanish, Greek, Southeast Asian, Mexican, Arab, Scandinavian, maybe Brits and maybe Polish girls always seem the most curious...

For the Spanish/Latina girls, definitely helps to speak Spanish. For everyone else, seems to help to know your Bollywood inside out, not something I unfortunately grew up on as an ABCD. Arabs are racist as hell against Indians, especially outside the Maghreb, but, even though I've never gotten my flag from one, those girls are definitely curious...

[ZoroZingzzz]

*American Punjabi guy. I don't even speak the language. One of my goals as I enter my early 30s is definitely to learn it. I think it's about pride in your identity as much as anything else, something I was less aware of growing up.

[a beer is enough]

I wanted to update the thread just to stay true to its original purpose, allowing Indian guys the best opportunities for success in game.

Inner game is key for sure and I think like all ethnic dudes, Indian men can benefit immensely by seeing themselves as an individual rather than carrying the burden of their race. I feel like this is tough in society and certain cases, especially if you hang around other ethnics who might have the victim's mentality, because you can get called crazy, out of touch, and "not real enough" because you decided to improve yourself instead of blaming whitey for all of your misery in life. You'll be surprised at how fast toxic people can ruin you and your mindset, it is your goal to surround yourself with winners and people with a positive mindset and a can do attitude.

It always helps to know your target market though. Now to break down the game picture for Indian guys from my understanding, anyone is more than free to comment on it.

I feel like Indian guys who are well put together, from my experience so far on dating apps and with women, can do well with women from the following kinds of backgrounds:

1. Backgrounds that value more conservative traits like hard work, good character, family, and being a good person.

This makes sense to me too because I have seen and known Indian men to do well with American girls from more conservative parts of the country who have some family values or Eastern European women. This is why I naturally feel like a lot of Eastern Europe outside of Ukraine could be good for Indian dudes. You obviously need to have good character yourself to game with this crowd and just using them for sex alone won't be much benefit for you, it will even sour some moods and make you enemies.

I almost always seemed to hit it off well with small-town American girls moving to big cities, it was like they were hooked from the get-go and I never got why until now.

2. Backgrounds that value education and brains, worldliness too.

Stereotypes exist and a well put together Indian guy in good shape can do well with the more intellectual crowds of women. I notice how whenever I go to spots and places with a highly educated crowd, I tend to see more Asian and Indian men with hot girls of other races and they are definitely with those women from what I can tell. It also seems like in the hipster spots, I notice a lot of Indian dudes getting around.

Anyone else notice more and more intermingling between Indians and Asians? I've seen hot Asian girls with Indian guys and even hot Indian girls getting with Asian guys.

Now here are the background of women I can see even quality Indian dudes struggling a lot with.


1. Backgrounds that value flashiness, popularity, and tend to be on the narcissistic end.

Certain Latino cultures (Brazilians and Colombians as opposed to Mexicans), Mediterraneans, and Middle Eastern people fall under this umbrella so it makes sense to me why I don't see Indian men cleaning up with quality women of those backgrounds too often. All in all the kinds of women who want their blond haired and blue eyed trophy boyfriend to show around. A lot of girls from immigrant groups who are trying to assimilate hard into white culture and be more like the sorority girl types also fit this mold.

From my observation, it seems like a lot of these women are more insecure than average and tend to try and cover up that insecurity by placing more value on race, preferring the top of the social order in their eyes (a Chad white guy).

[jcrew247]

I get what you are saying about dating women who are ambitious, smart, and career oriented. There are a lot of Jewish-Asian pairings but usually with a jewish guy and asian girl. I wonder if it is common for Indians to date Jews in America given that both cultures are very ambitious and career oriented. It also has a lot to do with th new immigrant groups coming to America as 2nd generation and seeking financial success as opposed to old money people seeking to retain elite status.

[a beer is enough]

Look man, it is almost as if you posting has brought me some awareness on how I sound like to senior members who think I am analyzing the fuck out of getting laid. While it is good to have some of this knowledge in your back pocket, sometimes you just have to go out there and perform. In many ways I can relate too because I've been there.

I am not much of an approach machine, in fact, I hardly even approach unless I have to. Most of my success has come from quality photos on dating apps and it's been working for me so far. I recently matched with two girls that had above average looks, one Lebanese from Texas and another an Italian chick from Florida. That's not to mention the 10 or so Indian chicks I've been chatting back and forth with.

It helps to know certain things for sure such as how you'll have better success in Denmark as opposed to Colombia as an Indian guy or that you'll probably have a better chance smashing hot blondes than a sexy Persian girl due to racism. Even after all that, you just have to go out there and try and then report back man.

What are you doing now to meet girls?

What kinds of girls do you want?

[jcrew247]

Are you meeting these girls on Tinder or some other dating app?
Do you pay for the global feature for Texas and Florida?
It seems like most men who have success on Tinder are paying for the global function to change their location.
I've just heard stories where its much easier to just pipeline as a tourist and just change your location a few weeks before traveling.
Especially since most Asians have less success in their hometowns and its almost a waste of time to use Tinder because I don't get any matches in my hometown.
Maybe there is the exotic factor or the novelty of being a tourist.
Or maybe the algorithm of Tinder rewards people who are constantly changing their locations and moving around, therefore every new update of location puts your profile up to the top.

I've heard stories of Tinder actually downgrading men who get rejected too many times, and they are just stuck on the lowest rung with consistently no matches because the hotter women never see their profiles. Its like a default hidden punishment for undesirable men.

[waughcraft]

Well, Indian guys definitely have better chances than an East Asian guy in the UK

In London, I see way more Indian guy-white girl combo than East Asian guy-white girl combo. East Asian women in the UK are thirsty for foreign men, but I don't see a lot of Indian girls hanging around with men outside their race

[a beer is enough]

I wanted to put this out there for all guys who want to answer, kind of a poll and survey, what kinds of girls have you guys had the toughest time gaming?

I mean what kinds of girls do you guys game that has you feeling like being brown is somehow a disadvantage?

[jcrew247]

I think its generally easier to pull white girls who have brown hair or black hair. It take more alpha game effort to pull blonde girls to defeat the snobby shields. But non-blonde girls are generally more open-minded towards dating non-white men.

[a beer is enough]

(03-15-2019 07:04 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  

I think its generally easier to pull white girls who have brown hair or black hair. It take more alpha game effort to pull blonde girls to defeat the snobby shields. But non-blonde girls are generally more open-minded towards dating non-white men.

I actually find blondes to be way friendlier and more open minded, it is the obvious club trash bottle blondes that are rude but most blondes are cool from my experience. Blonde girls are cool as fuck from my experience and they're fun too, these days they are definitely down with brown guys.

If anything, I find that the worst experiences most minorities I have are with tanned brunettes.

I've said it in other threads, blondes and pale white girls seem to be cool and down with minorities, it is no wonder I hear of darker skinned guys in general killing it in the midwest and the really white states.

From what I have witnessed, the more racially ambiguous, Latin or ethnic a white girl looks, the more likely she is to shy away from minorities and fall head over heels for the blond hair blue eyed Hitler ideal. The more white and pale she looks, the more likely she is to be down with minorities.

[a beer is enough]

If any guys are open to talking about traveling, I'd love to hear from brown guys who have gamed in Eastern Europe. Earlier in the thread Crash said that Ukraine is a no go so that is off my list but I wanted to know about some of the other countries too. Have heard similar things about Czech Republic too which sucks because the girls from there I have seen are hot. Looks like those two countries are no gos.

No doubt that living in America has almost sheltered me from a lot of the actual dislike towards Indian guys from women, it seems far worse in Europe than here.

I've had a great experience with Polish, Romanian, and Hungarian girls.

Any brown guys here want to add their experiences?

[ledzep]

(03-30-2019 05:51 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

If any guys are open to talking about traveling, I'd love to hear from brown guys who have gamed in Eastern Europe. Earlier in the thread Crash said that Ukraine is a no go so that is off my list but I wanted to know about some of the other countries too. Have heard similar things about Czech Republic too which sucks because the girls from there I have seen are hot. Looks like those two countries are no gos.

No doubt that living in America has almost sheltered me from a lot of the actual dislike towards Indian guys from women, it seems far worse in Europe than here.

I've had a great experience with Polish, Romanian, and Hungarian girls.

Any brown guys here want to add their experiences?

I am going to Kiev for a week in June and I am as Indian as one can get. It is going to be an adventure.