[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-04-2018 04:50 PM)Jay stone Wrote:  

It would be a bad move by the globalists to go to such extreme censorship so quickly, not only is it going to add credence to the arguments of the oppostion it will cause a backlash of gargantuan effect. when your losing a game of chess you can't just throw your opponents pieces off the board, it doesn't work like that.

It does work like that, and it will work like that.

How far do you think anyone in the West would have gotten trying to expose Soviet genocides during the second world war? The moment you had an audience larger than one you'd be politely warned to shut the fuck up as and where it hurt the war effort. There would be no second warning. You'd simply find yourself behind bars.

Your opponent can and will flip the chess board when it becomes necessary, and if he manages to shank you in the momentary confusion then a year later the history books will say that you flipped the board and tried to shank him, and that he killed you in self defence.

You could wake up tomorrow with no electricity, much less internet. Some contend that the elites plan to eliminate 90% of the world's population, so you should pause to wonder how much they really care about rocking the boat on freedom of speech.

It could happen in any number of ways. For example, a "terrorist plot" to smuggle a nuke into Israel is stopped somewhere near Beersheba. A gunfight ensues for long enough for many cameras to be deployed before "the terrorists" set off the nuke, causing minimal damage to the nearby city but triggering the pretext for a total change in all international relations. By the same time next day all nations are on a war footing due to a cascading mutual alliance effect. A series of sudden and catastrophic infrastructure failures all over the world are immediately attributed to foreign hackers. By this time the RVF has a measly 25 page thread on the event which is understandably filled with nothing but angry conjecture. It hits page 26 before non-state internet usage is simply shut down "in order to protect us against future digital attacks."

Don't like it? Go complain about it in the town square, or on your HAM radio before being arrested five minutes later.

Comfortable Westerners have almost completely lost their capacity to respect how quickly things can go from "cushy" to "completely fucked".

So yes, they can flip the board, and they will if they must.

[Cr33pin]

[Rhyme or Reason]

Why's he still call himself "sargon of akkad"? Seems gay. Especially since his name and face are now out there, and have been for awhile.

[spokepoker]

Does it mean something or reference a historical figure?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Sargon of Akkad was a Sumerian empire builder who created a great civilization of his time. And he had some resemblance to the Youtube guy who worked in a mundane job, so he picked this alias. It's actually a good one.

And looking how much Antifa and the far left are increasingly targeting him I would say that keeping this alias is a good thing. My guess is that he will experience almost the same thing as Tommy Robinson in Britain as things progress.

In the end he will be vindicated, but that can take time. What saves his ass somewhat is that he is more of a classical liberal leftie and has his hangups on race. But similar to Milo - that will only hold for so long. Antifa is calling him and a Jewish scientist a Nazi in that talk.

[BortimusPrime]

(03-04-2018 10:33 AM)demolition Wrote:  

This shit sends shivers down my spine.

What's worse about it is that they're using machine learning networks to try and figure out what language is "hate". This sort of software is notoriously terrible at understanding semantics, generally only able to parse the correct meaning out of straightforward, simple sentences devoid of idiom.

For example, an ML algorithm will almost invariably consider these two sentences to be effectively the same in the vector space of the language:

"I hate the nigger."
"I hate the word nigger."

The end result is you're going to have all the social media on the internet policed by artificial intelligences that lack any true understanding of language and anything remotely related to a controversial subject will just get autoflagged, be it pro or con.

The only plus side is that this would be easy to weasel around using SJW buzzwords, owing to overtraining on letting the leftists squawk freely. I'd take a wild guess that their net would let a gem like this slip by unmolested:

"I find black bodies problematic, we should keep them all out of our safe spaces."

[Teedub]

Do Antifa actually stand for anything, I mean some kind of value system? They claim diversity and tolerance, but that's quite evidently nonsense.

Anyway, just watched Sargon's video, look at the state of them. Silly, overly pampered middle class kids trying to be working class revolutionaries. Meanwhile, actual working class revolutionaries, like Tommy Robinson would smack the shit out of them. And their political heroes Che Guevara and Malcolm X would probably have them killed for being so pathetic.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I answer this here Teedub, because it deviates too far from the Amazon/Roosh thread:

< Sargon did say that he would be willing to man the machine guns against Muslims in Britain.

As for the dress-code - Big Boy Suits are in vogue.



Sargon takes himself a bit too seriously. His individualist ideology and Quadroon-doubling down on top of his civic nationalism idea is standing all on wobbly legs.

If his ideology was 100% correct, then Zimbabwe as well as South Africa would be richer than before - without all those international sanctions since according to Sargon it does not matter whether Britain or South Africa is 90% African - it's just a set of ethics, values and a constitution.





But don't take me wrong - I don't think that he is deliberately negative - he is still more to the right than the entire globohomo-mainstream. It's just that his views are incomplete and simply does not dare venturing into the territory of reality.

Here you have a Jewish Alt-Righter answering his presumptuous 8 questions. I would like to have him debate Frame Games - that will be even more humiliating for him. Those guys are not some insane moronic SJWs.

Either way - I think that most of those guys are likeable to some degree as well as Sargon. He also seems to have a soft spot for guys like Milennial Woes, but somehow does not understand that his policies while ideally would be fine, you need a different approach.

Whatever - I don't think that either one of them - neither Sargon/the Alt-Lite nor the sane Alt Right will have any significant influence on what is transpiring. Sargon however may see the error of his ways later in life as Britain becomes an ever greater shithole.

[Teedub]

^ Thanks for the detailed explanation, I broadly agree with much of what you say on a plethora of topics.

However, I shall not be wearing a suit to the conference (if it was the Chairman's gala dinner, I may reconsider)!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Sargon lost a few thousand subs attempting to smear Mister Metokur as a teenage groomer

Metokur is now going to make a series on the so-called Skeptics.

The Skeptics is this strange group that is anti-SJW, atheism-loving, but vehemently fights race-realism and the JQ. Kraut and Tea was the biggest insane asshole who got so angry at debating the race-realists that he resorted to creating a doxxing group that was busy trying to doxx anyone.

Now Sargon has gone on to this individualist bullshit.

And what the fuck are those allegations of Metokur dating a 25yo girl? Should he date a fat old girl now that he is 40?

This Blue PIll crap made him once made fun of Roosh as well. There is also a streak of cuckoldry among the "Skeptics" with the Indian Buntyking making vids of how he is a cuck. He isn't a cuck per se, but he is so painfully Blue Pill M'Lady that it hurts:

Then you have this Kraut and Tea who publicly stated that he is not bothered by his girlfriends fucking other dudes - that is just "basic biology".

Those fuckers have some screws loose over there at the Atheist Skeptic community. Oh - and let us not forget the Candid App disaster that was a Google offshoot that paid many Skeptics to shill for them. Candid was essentially a precursor of the current censorship technology that are in use now and the Skeptics got cash for shilling for an actual censorship app - and they ganged up and attacked a Youtuber who spoke clearly against this crap.

Obviously the ideologies of the Skeptics, of those enlightened individualists mired also with plenty of Blue Pill thinking, they are useless for our current times.

Oh - and Sargon in his attack on Metokur as well as Coach Red Pill has used posts by anonymous people as fucking proof. So if anyone posts something against Roosh for example, then the super-genius Sargon takes that as gospel, because no one ever says anything out-of-context on the internet ever eh? Dude - you have to verify that and find out whether that is even remotely true.

And let us not forget their attempts of starting a Liberalist party. If a neoclassical liberal constitution and attitude got you automatically somewhere, then Liberia would be a first-world nation by now.

Plus the little incident where Sargon was publicly berated on his shared screen by his wife for chasing "pretty" trannies.

I wonder if it's an internal schism within those "Skeptics" that let them internally self-destroy. They simply need the Red Pill, Game, then some openness towards other topics and not let some preconceived notions limit them too much. Otherwise the only thing they are doing is being against SJWs and Islam (and even there hardly a really strong opposition - just more against the "radicals").

[debeguiled]

Metokur and Sargon both sound really sad, like high school mean girls in a show down.

You're obsessed with me.

No, you're obsessed with me.

No real humor, no good points. Metokur spent twenty minutes basically saying that someone saw a folder marked "Jim" on Sargon's desktop, therefore he is living rent free in Sargon's head.

Extremely poor showing.

[Rigsby]

(09-17-2018 05:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Metokur and Sargon both sound really sad, like high school mean girls in a show down.

You're obsessed with me.

No, you're obsessed with me.

No real humor, no good points. Metokur spent twenty minutes basically saying that someone saw a folder marked "Jim" on Sargon's desktop, therefore he is living rent free in Sargon's head.

Extremely poor showing.

Nail. Head.

I don't like Sargon. In fact, he is one of the few human beings I have an active dislike for. I could count the ways I dislike him, in fact. But hey, who am I?

I listened to a good few hours of his videos. It's time I won't get back. I don't feel he has anything to offer anyone. Political or personal. He strikes me as a little man. And I think that is what Jim has tapped in to here. Jim is Metokur or wtf nom de plume he's using today.

He's another piece of work. I like him though. Jim is alright. But he's still obviously someone who hasn't worked it all out. Family? The important stuff? Taking the piss out of people on the internet?

Jim can be pretty funny. He can definitely be very cutting and can do a good take down. But to see so many worship him? Sad!

Good take-down yourself debeguiled.

I know I probably seem like a bit of a prick by this point. But I don't believe in Jim, in Sargon, in Tommy Robinson, in Jesus or the Buddha, or even the Devil himself. Sorry.

So hard to keep life and soul together. But wait, let's not make this about me! I'll shut up. Where was I?

That's right. Pissing on Sargon. And mildly poo poohing Jim (Metokur).

As an interlude, have any of you seen that autistic faggot JP - the frog?

Jesus. He actually did shack up with a sperg. You need to keep up with it.

Some people I can't take seriously. When you talk like Inspector fucking wtf. With such authority. And J is clever. But it's like SS sperging out all the time about IQ when we know that is such a small part of the equation.

It's about how you act. It's about how others perceive you.

Displaying your superior firepower all the time is just boring. You are playing to a gallery of spergs. Fuck, we are all spergs anyway. But some are more spergier than others. I say this as a sperg, so I should know.

But Sargon?

Like I say, I actively dislike the bloke. I make no apology for that. It happens sometimes. He's too close to some other types I dislike. He's ineffectual. He's over-sensitive. He's effeminate. And what is worse is that he is treacherous like a woman who will burn you for looking at her the wrong way.

I really dislike him. Just to be clear.

But I may be wrong. He might be a fantastic fella. Won't ever give him the chance to find out. That Dunkula as well. Don't like him, either.

UKIP? Fuck them.

Even Farage. Fuck him too.

In short, we are really fucking fucked mate.


This battle will not be won at the ballot box. It's over. Too late. Fiddle while Rome burns all you want. Virtue signal even. Won't do no good now.

Too many people wanting blood. Too many blacks hating whites. Too many whites hating blacks. Too many muslims. Not enough christians. Too many chiefs. Not enough Indians.

India has a bigger muslim population than Pakistan, apparently. Who cares? And of those that do care, what difference does it make. That is my point.

What is the outcome you wish for? How do you see this going?

There is no Adolf Hitler.

There is only Sargon of Black Dad. An egotistical and foolish fop who will make mugs of us all.

As for blood sports. Well, we all got mugged off on that.

I got mugged off by some other people on the internet recently as well. Made me feel a bit of a twat. At a time when I could have done without all that. So, extra resentment for them. Hey, I'm human. I love, I hate. I've learned to bear a grudge.

Metokur is just riding high on the hog. It's pretty sad, as you have pointed out debeguiled.

Some of us observe to see which way the wind blows.

Others observe and think that wind is their life blood and direction.

Sargon got busted by Jim because he (Sargon) is a pompous twat who is too full of his own press and needs to be brought down a peg or two.

He's not a bad person. But he's not a leader.

Then again, neither is Jim. And those that follow him are equally as foolish.

I cooked a curry tonight. Think I'm done now.

Worship your Gods. Worship your false Idols. It makes no difference to me. But it will make a difference to you.


And just to be extra clear, I don't feel so strongly about this that I would not have respect for any other RVF member that felt a different way about it all. I'm not invested.

Then again, you know how I feel about certain things.

[BortimusPrime]

It's funny, I had the opposite reaction. I like Sargon and I got the impression that Metokur was just trying to start shit. Although I think JF had a good analysis of the whole thing; that Sargon's problem is that he feels like he has to strike back whenever anyone crosses him and the end result is that both sides end up looking like idiots. There's something about the youtuber community where they can't see how petty and ridiculous their spats look from the outside, with three hour long response videos being traded back and forth. Same thing with Mundane Matt getting caught flagging everyone that made fun of him, it was amusing at first but they kept going on and on about it until it resembled middle school cliques throwing their french fries at each other in the school cafeteria.

[demolition]

Useless, unproductive drama while the UK becomes quite literally a tyrannical police state, Europe is invaded by Muslims, and the rest of the Western world is destroyed by histrionics & barren wombs of their women.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-17-2018 10:43 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

It's funny, I had the opposite reaction. I like Sargon and I got the impression that Metokur was just trying to start shit. Although I think JF had a good analysis of the whole thing; that Sargon's problem is that he feels like he has to strike back whenever anyone crosses him and the end result is that both sides end up looking like idiots. There's something about the youtuber community where they can't see how petty and ridiculous their spats look from the outside, with three hour long response videos being traded back and forth. Same thing with Mundane Matt getting caught flagging everyone that made fun of him, it was amusing at first but they kept going on and on about it until it resembled middle school cliques throwing their french fries at each other in the school cafeteria.

I agree - it's useless drama. Though Metokur is funny at least with some topics. Sargon just takes criticism way too seriously.

Also - Metokur making fun of school shooters, pedophiles and various other psychos is actually good. You get always copy-cat morons out there and the media with all their He-so-terrible-reporting just makes shitheads like Eliott Rodgers and other school shooters into some anti-heroes for many.

Metokur's approach of making the shooter look like a ridiculous loser that everyone laughs at is 100 TIMES BETTER!

All the media should be mandated to make "We-are-Laughing-at-you-moron" reports about anyone of those. That will reduce copycat killers.

As for the drama those guys go through - that is another matter. Sargon reacted only so strongly to criticism, because his ego got too big. He honestly thinks that he will actually create an effective political movement. The reality is that his views are hardly edgy and at best at Jordan Peterson level - just without JP's intelligence.

[amity]

Sargon has just been interviewed by BBC Radio 4, will be interesting to see how that went.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Ran across this the other day.

Sargon gets flanked at every turn. Frankly in debate terms it's a bloodbath. I don't know what accent this Taylor guy has, and something about it triggers my "eat the rich" gene but he's definitely eloquent and always on point.

In the end Sargon's position is laid bare. Every single time an issue is raised where non-white racial blocs are acting in some form of solidarity "its not tribal ingrouping". No no! It's some other barely plausible explanation! Like class! Or Poverty! Or evil magic! Taylor boxes him in like a caged animal and Sargon's explanations come off like weak excuses to maintain his delusions, which is precisely what they are.

It should hardly escape notice that street and criminal gangs, formed of people who are equally uneducated, equally poor, equally historically illiterate, and equally shit in every way, always form along racial lines first and foremost.

In Sargon's cuck brain this is utterly silly. In the only real and true free market (the black market) where even violence is a commodity surely these gangs would eschew racism in favor of recruiting the best possible members into their gang! Why recruit a lesser arab into a majority (100%) arab gang when there are better black, white or asian candidates waiting in the wings?!



There are none so blind...

[HornyRamone]

Sargon was edgy three years ago. He stubbornly insists on the idea of the nation state and magic dirt mentality that aims for a diverse utopia held together by muh Constitution. It's this mentality that has made the GOP and libertarians obsolete and pegged as cucks.

In this day and age, anyone who refuses to at least give a nod to race, genetics and the fate of demographics, should stay in their corner while the grown ups talk.

[godfather dust]

I can't listen to Sargon because of his gay ultra-upper class British twat accent (not calling him gay, just the accent.)

I never had any real problem with him until the "saying someone is black is like saying when did you last beat your wife" or whatever that ridiculous comment was.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Plus he claims that Sargon is a Quadroon and this is his half-black father.

I will admit that his dad might be a Quadroon, but not Sargon.

The BBC will be rather soft on him, because frankly - I don't even know what Sargon stands for except being against the most extreme SJWs and against Islam. His individualist approach is utterly useless - him telling the Jews publicly to stop working as one group for their own interests will not be heeded. The left won't listen to him and neither will the globalists.

And that guy is the most popular political Youtuber. Over time all those race-denying Skeptics and Individualism-screamers will be run over by the diversity. Sargon's kid will probably grow up to be a fascist having to live in a diverse school.

In addition Sargon is against trannie propaganda in school, but trannies in his free-speech rally as well as flirting with them is fine?

The entire Skeptic ideology is just not well-thought through. At least that ShoeOnHead chick is funny and sexy:



Even if she went out and attacked Roosh, because obviously traditional values are only going so far.

[Shinebox]

I think every critique of any inhabitant of Cuck Island (the U.K.) should be given in light of the fact of what has been done to Tommy Robinson and what happened in Rotherham. They have no free speech whatsoever. The level of social enforcement of Globohomo values there is so strong that it is practically impossible to be alt-light. Watch the BBC and you can taste the brainwashing. There are only two Brits I have any respect for. Tommy and Pat Condell. And they're essentially social pariahs. Rotherham is proof of them being in total cultural free fall. BlackPigeon's video on the U.K. becoming an Anarcho Tyranny was spot on.

By U.K. standards, Sargon is as far right as will be allowed. He's edgy and considered dangerous. I wouldn't blame him too much for being what he is. It would literally be thought crime for him to go any further right. You think he wants to sit in solitary 23 hours a day surrounded by Muzzies thirsting for his blood?

Any forum member who lives in the U.K....I would advise you devise an exit plan.

[Roosh]

[quote[The entire Skeptic ideology is just not well-thought through. At least that ShoeOnHead chick is funny and sexy: [/quote]

I hate to bring bad news, but she wears wigs. She has a disorder that causes her to pull out her hair. That means she's bald.

You can do a search on it. It's common knowledge.

[Teedub]

I like Sargon up to a point, though as I've mentioned elsewhere on the forum I find him to be a pompous twat. I imagine PJW is also very arrogant and smug in real life. I also think Millennial Woes is really pompous as well, so maybe it's just a thing with British youtube personalities — all the normie Americans automatically assume they're super intelligent and it goes to their heads.

My biggest problem with Sargon is he often tries to be clever for clever's sake, and will argue against points he actually mostly agrees with simply to play an extraordinary game of devil's advocate. For example, the idea that Britain should remain majority white to remain Britain — I doubt any of Tommy Robinson's black friends would disagree with that, though Sargon has argued against it at some point or another.

(09-18-2018 11:19 AM)HornyRamone Wrote:  

In this day and age, anyone who refuses to at least give a nod to race, genetics and the fate of demographics, should stay in their corner while the grown ups talk.

I think this is where Tommy R sits. Somewhere in the middle between civic and ethnic nationalism. I'd imagine most on the new right do really (including non-sjw minorities in western countries, including guys on this forum) — regardless of what they say publicly.

[Prince Hubris]

Instead of trying to go up against the nationalist right Sargon should have just stuck to making basic anti-SJW videos for NPCs that are just beginning to awaken. The type of content he does has its place and necessity, to a degree.

I also used to listen to Sargon and followed him, three to four years ago when I was still getting into politics. But since then I have matured past that stage in my political views and find most of his content boring whenever I occasionally watch his videos more recently.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-18-2018 01:19 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

[quote[The entire Skeptic ideology is just not well-thought through. At least that ShoeOnHead chick is funny and sexy:

I hate to bring bad news, but she wears wigs. She has a disorder that causes her to pull out her hair. That means she's bald.

You can do a search on it. It's common knowledge.
[/quote]

At least she is marrying that Skepticguy:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkMBzBincxA/...shoe0nhead

Hyper-sexualized is fine by me. Her pulling out her hair is extreme behavior, but so long as it balanced out by now. That ArmouredSkeptic guy is weird too, but the couple is relatively sane by Skeptic-standard. They don't even venture into the dangerous territories of wanting to debate Jared Taylor on equal footing.

Her having no hair explains a bit why she isn't monkey-branching onto hotter richer more masculine men. That lowers her effective market value. I would still bang her - she looks to be super-submissive and dirty - just how I like it.

Though I have no doubt that half her fans are incels, male feminists and various low-SMV men - she is not alone in that field:



That's the bread and butter of the tradthot/semi-tradthot. You have to know your market. I remember this crazy Vegan Youtuber Durianrider say that he pimped his hotter girlfriend out to make 10.000$/month (Freelee Bananagirl).

In contrast the rather more real traditional Identitarian looks like this:

Girl looking at her man intently when he talks and him looking at the camera - the dynamic is rather clear from Red Pill/Game viewpoint. But what can you expect? Their internal ideology is far more stable and as ancient as our species - women are good helpers, but bad leaders.