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Fighting in private parties
#51

Fighting in private parties

from my time in the UBelgrano I remember a good density of peteras, I didn't care what tribe they were from, really.
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#52

Fighting in private parties

Ubelgrano got nothing on my uni. If you were here you should know theres two top tier universities. One is san andres and the other is di tella. R u an argie too mensch?
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#53

Fighting in private parties

@el-JJ that was hilarious...

I could add so much more hilarity but don't wanna go off-topic.
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#54

Fighting in private parties

Quote: (03-05-2018 07:12 PM)Balls_Hang_Low Wrote:  

Ubelgrano got nothing on my uni. If you were here you should know theres two top tier universities. One is san andres and the other is di tella. R u an argie too mensch?

I did my undergrad in the US, and spent a year abroad in Buenos Aires.
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#55

Fighting in private parties

Quote: (03-01-2018 09:37 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

Quote: (03-01-2018 03:03 AM)Noir Wrote:  

If he was drunk then forget about it and ignore him.

If it escalates to girls holding you back then nothing will happen and it's just a drama fest. We have hosted multiple private parties to the point where we had a K1 fighter, our friend, be a bouncer to ensure nothing went wrong.

Of course, a 30 person brawl broke out with the bouncer and the house was trashed. Avoid if possible but if someone steps up to you, either disarm them with wit and turn the crowd against them or simply hit them.

Have a crew who have your back and be respected so people don't fuck with you. Sometimes you have to hit someone to be respected.

Pick your battles wisely, your ego vs your social status.

I agree. You've run into the quintessential "alpha" of that group. A lot of these types to go to private parties aren't really about that life, but love to portray themselves as some bad ass. In this case, I would have said look bro "we got off on the wrong foot, let's have a drink and go talk to some chicks" If he would have rejected this and kept talking shit, just ignore him UNTIL he get's in your personal space.

From there I usually give them 5 seconds, while my hands are up (no sneak punches allowed) if they don't back off, I'll push them as a friendly gesture to back the fuck up. That usually stops 98% of them. If not, it sounds like you know what to do next. Your well being comes before anybody's personal opinion of you.

-CD

I do very similar.

You need to realize winning a fight will make you more likely to get sued or arrested.

As the situation develops get witnesses (draw attention.) You will not punch first.

If he's in your face you don't shove him, put your hand on his chest and back yourself off and try verbal de-escalation (hands up of course.) If he swings handle business (obviously don't stomp him out once he's not a threat.)

At this point your goal is to get the crowd (witnesses) on your side. "Can you believe he just attacked me? Damn! Crazy!" Or whatever.

You DO NOT want to fight if possible. I saw a dude get assaulted, win the fight and lose a lawsuit to the dude for $3000. And that's​ obviously not the worst, losing or jail are.
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#56

Fighting in private parties

Quote: (03-01-2018 01:29 AM)Balls_Hang_Low Wrote:  

Hey guys. Tonight i was at a private house party of roughly 200 people. I knew about 50 of them and a lot more of them knew me. It was a costume party and i went full out with my top of the line taekwondo unifrom. Rocking my fourth degree black belt. I was getting looks from everyone and people were touching it and asking if it was real. Led to a lot of good and easy interactions.

I was talking with a bunch of friends and some girls when a dude walks up to me and taps me on the shoulder.

Asks me if i told some guy that smoking is awful and doesn't help to get you laid. I said naw. Then this small dude comes up behind him, Hes a guy i know and someone ive had lots of positive actions with before (i also busted raw inside his sister multiple times, bitch swallowed my cum and even ate my ass on demand) but he doesn't know any of that. I digress.

Anyways i ask him wtf HeS talking about and then recognize i had indeed given that friendly advice to the lil guy who is a -10/10 and the embodiment of antigame. Anyways the original dude is getting all up in my face and i tell him to fuck off. He just stands there and insults me and talks shit.

I cant believe what is happening since im in full uniform. Its the equivalent of picking a fight with an armed cop. Dude blew smoke in my face. The chicks start pulling at my sleeves telling me to forget him and my friend comes and separates him and pushes him away.

Guy keeps grilling me from a distance and insulting me. Throwing objects like cups my way. I walk up to him and get in his face until i recoil at the sight of a gruesome herpes sore. says HeS a man and makes out with a lot of chicks. I almost puke and laugh at the same time.

I tell him to take it outside but the little bitch just kept talking shit but wouldn't leave to fight me. I turned around and left. Kept grilling me the whole night.

This is a private party where i know lots of people and would probably be excluded from the social circle if i beat his ass. I also thought he would throw a punch or something so i kept legs distance to strike before him.

The lil guy came after and semi apologized for what happened and said the other guy is crazy. Should i forgive him or not? How to handle at other private parties?

How should i have handled the situation? Beat his ass after the second warning to fuck off. Beat his ass only if he dared try something. walk away? Or hold frame and let him buckle? Something else entirely?

Dont know the full extent of consequences that would unchain if i seriously beat him the fuck up.

Please advise since i have two more house parties this week and this cunt may be there.

I have been the "armed cop" having people pick fights with me described above.

I'm go to drop a little Data Sheet on low intensity conflicts (short of actual fighting) because I've encountered them numerous times over a 20+ year career. A lot of it is counter-intuitive, but it's the way the world works.

You're a martial artist, you've probably been taught a lot of avoidance and de-escalation strategies. Life has taught him the exact opposite, for him a conflict is an opportunity to enhance his rep (by reducing yours). You made yourself a high value target by choosing a symbol of strength. He saw the reactions, and preferred they went his way. He calculated (correctly) that he could publicly punk you out and challenge that you wouldn't have an answer for it.

I'm also a fellow martial artist, and long after I was a good fighter, I still ran into some of the same problems you did. I had mastered outright physical conflict, but I simply wasn't good at posturing, and pretending to be good at fighting and that kind of gamesmanship. This is bad, because being able to pretend you can can fight is frequently more valuable than actually being able to fight (as evidenced by your situation). As a cop, I slowly learned the importance of this stuff, and developing better "Command Presence", and the ability to win the "war of words" so common in predatory street environments. People will "pick fights" with us whenever we look weak, and they'll specifically pick times when we'll face negative consequences if we escalate. You've got to be able to clown people effectively, and it's as complicated as quality Game with women. You may have to practice your words the same way you did your martial arts or your game, like DeNiro in "Taxi Driver". More on this topic when I have the time.
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#57

Fighting in private parties

Yeah I'd never wear anything mma or fighting related while out drinking. I never wore any wrestlinghoodies or ts while partying inspire of figuring its school related so there might be street cred there cause I figured it increases the likelihood of this type of thing.

In fact I've been at parties where everyone finds out me and some other dude im chopping it up with compete and people start pressuring for a match while your exchanging numbers and laughing. also the one time I said fuck it and wrestled some drunk guy for fun at a bonfire these dudes I was partying with had conflicts with some people and started trying to pick fights for me because they figured I knew how to fight. One night was busy in a red room by myself while everyone else was fighting because i had a HORRIBLE case of the Sniffles with a slight post nasal drip and they got their asses beat by some skinny black kid. On the video they actually tried wrestling the kid on concrete with no exp or common sense...I kid you not this one kids knee was bloody as fuck because he was really good at looking for a take down on bottom position while taking punches.

If you want to prevent fights like the user above started on its good to know how to dilate your pupils,modify your breathing,take a posture,and adjust your posture to make that guy think he might die if he fights you. Study fighters in stare downs,and and shakes before matches if you dont want to compete yourself. Practice this at home. knowing how to create/having killer eyes is a pretty Damn usefull skill for preventing fights. Most animalanimalistic feeling in the world is staring at some dude and knowing your about to fuck his day up like a lion when he sees a lone gazelle in the low grass from his high ground. If you compete in combat sport a lot goes into preflight composure to make that little pussy scared if hes not good or convince the opponent to take you seriously if hes good.
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#58

Fighting in private parties

Quote: (03-07-2018 10:16 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

Yeah I'd never wear anything mma or fighting related while out drinking. I never wore any wrestlinghoodies or ts while partying inspire of figuring its school related so there might be street cred there cause I figured it increases the likelihood of this type of thing.

In fact I've been at parties where everyone finds out me and some other dude im chopping it up with compete and people start pressuring for a match while your exchanging numbers and laughing. also the one time I said fuck it and wrestled some drunk guy for fun at a bonfire these dudes I was partying with had conflicts with some people and started trying to pick fights for me because they figured I knew how to fight. One night was busy in a red room by myself while everyone else was fighting because i had a HORRIBLE case of the Sniffles with a slight post nasal drip and they got their asses beat by some skinny black kid. On the video they actually tried wrestling the kid on concrete with no exp or common sense...I kid you not this one kids knee was bloody as fuck because he was really good at looking for a take down on bottom position while taking punches.

If you want to prevent fights like the user above started on its good to know how to dilate your pupils,modify your breathing,take a posture,and adjust your posture to make that guy think he might die if he fights you. Study fighters in stare downs,and and shakes before matches if you dont want to compete yourself. Practice this at home. knowing how to create/having killer eyes is a pretty Damn usefull skill for preventing fights. Most animalanimalistic feeling in the world is staring at some dude and knowing your about to fuck his day up like a lion when he sees a lone gazelle in the low grass from his high ground.

A lot of good stuff in here.
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#59

Fighting in private parties

Get them out, knock em out
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