[FlyBoy]

(11-20-2015 12:33 PM)J. Spice Wrote:  

2 years isn't a long time. Focus on something else and just power through. You can look at your job as your life's work or the way you finance your life's work. There's a quote that's been floating around that I think fit's your situation: "Entrepreneurship is living a few years of the life the way most people won't so you can live the rest of your life the way most people can't."

I just love that quote!

[Tytalus]

(09-20-2011 08:47 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I worked at this one shop in my twenties that was bought by a female accountant. I worked with two of the biggest horndog mechanics I have ever met and we all tried to fuck her and her daughter all day.
My boy John would walk into the office every morning and say " Are you gonna give up that puzzy or what?"
The Romainian dude had an eloborate mirror set-up and would put all the womens cars in a certain spot so he could look up her dress when she got in her car. Then go in the office and tell "the boss" how the customer "shot him a muff" and she wanted him to see.
I tried to fuck her daughter and all her female friends relentlessly. I would go in her office every 20 minutes and run down how I was going to seduce her high school daughter.
We broke her in Four months and she closed the doors on a business that was thirty years old.

I don't quite understand, you intentionally broke your boss and made yourselves lose your jobs?? Sounds like sociopathic self sabotage.

That said, I've had in professional environments, two female bosses and they were fine. My male boss is less work and I get to screw around a lot more. Famous last words maybe.

[The Father]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Women belong in charge of adult men the way monkeys belong in charge of AK-47s.

[Sweet Jones]

As mentioned on the first page i can basically get away with murder. But at the same time, and i know it sounds contradictory, they will fly off the handle at the slightest provocation. I can sit on facebook all day no worries, but if i happen to tab in and out and she sees it while shes stressed about something i get screamed at. Meanwhile she might catch up on an episode of some reality tv she missed last night. She will claim she is swamped and i need to help her out and she will send me a series of tasks that take about 5 clicks/ten seconds each to complete (i mainly do database work) and then she will freak out when i have nothing to do 5 minutes after she sent me 'all this work'. If i consider what it takes for her to start yelling (dependent on mood obviously, most times she doesnt care), i would probably be screaming all day if i applied the same standards to her. I get to stay abreast of all the gossip but that is mainly just girls that she and other women hate which i knew anyway since its the ones with nice tits/asses.

Sorry for the messy post im on a phone

[PABeaulieu]

I worked as a High School Teacher in Québec, Canada, between 1994 and 2006. I had to teach in many schools that were Female dominated.

Most of the schools I worked in, Primary and Secondary, were let's say from 60% to 95% controlled by women.

I do not plan to go back to teaching, but there is one thing I can tell you for sure : if I ever have an occasion to teach and the principal of the school is a woman, I'll decline.

[Suits]

(11-20-2015 11:25 AM)The Father Wrote:  

Normally I use my years of experience to provide help and coaching to the younger members on this forum.

[Dr. Howard]

(11-21-2015 03:38 AM)Sweet Jones Wrote:  

As mentioned on the first page i can basically get away with murder. But at the same time, and i know it sounds contradictory, they will fly off the handle at the slightest provocation. I can sit on facebook all day no worries, but if i happen to tab in and out and she sees it while shes stressed about something i get screamed at. Meanwhile she might catch up on an episode of some reality tv she missed last night. She will claim she is swamped and i need to help her out and she will send me a series of tasks that take about 5 clicks/ten seconds each to complete (i mainly do database work) and then she will freak out when i have nothing to do 5 minutes after she sent me 'all this work'. If i consider what it takes for her to start yelling (dependent on mood obviously, most times she doesnt care), i would probably be screaming all day if i applied the same standards to her. I get to stay abreast of all the gossip but that is mainly just girls that she and other women hate which i knew anyway since its the ones with nice tits/asses.

Sorry for the messy post im on a phone

Totally. The female boss in government that made me insane didn't know shit about the technical details of the various departments she ran and so decided to overcompensate in other areas. She would always spend hours on multiple edits for buzzwords and formatting. She would get all worked up because she didn't like the formatting of my tables in a report. I said to her "OK! but what about the NUMBERS" and her reply was "we'll see what input the rest of the management team has". She had zero clue about what they meant.

Compare that with my male boss for the same position before her. He was like "what do these numbers mean for me, what are the risks and potential questions"

[Foolsgo1d]

Female bosses are bad, but their lackeys are even worse.

Be it the male servant or the younger upstart girl who gets all the dicks hard and she has no problem eviscerating them in the workplace HR department. Funnily enough both of them get their just desserts one way or another.

[Dusty]

I wrote this in the "Ban Bossy" thread:

(03-11-2014 11:31 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

Women typically don't make good leaders because they're born with instincts to lead children. These child rearing instincts come off as extremely obnoxious to adults. Thus, many female bosses are unlikeable and even hated by their subordinates - including other women.

Remember in 2008 Hillary was asked about her lack of likeability?

When raising children, women have to micro manage and act like control freaks. Eat your food, clean your face, wipe your bum after pooing. They have to be firm and nagging to get the child to comply. Stern disciplinarians. That's necessary because they are children and need to be told every little move to make.

The problem is when women are put into positions of power, they fall back on these instincts. Adults don't like being treated like children. The female bosses comes off as obnoxious, control freaky, and nagging cunts.

There's not a lot of charismatic female leaders. They're built to lead children, not adults.

They come up with strict rules over minutia or petty bullshit. Like banning words.

[rpg]

I have learned something very valuable after working in a female majority workplace. All women see their boyfriends/husbands as schlubs to be used and exploited. Their smelly pussies are between their legs as leverage to get what they want. And, they are never happy.

[MrLemon]

I wrote a post on a similar topic:

"If you get assigned to a lesbian boss, commit hair-kari now"

Basically dyke bosses hate men and will do anything they can to destroy male fellow workers. They are 100% behind-the-back destroyers, all hate, all the time.

If you're a young man and fully under their control, and no threat to whatever empire they are building, they'll be really sweet to you while they use you to improve their position.

If you're a strong or smart older man, especially if you are good in your field, they will work with incredible political skill to destroy you. There is no middle ground. If you think you have made peace with them, you are kidding yourself. They hate you, end of discussion. If they have any shreds of power, they will use that power to get you fired.

Most female bosses are the same, but if they are straight women, generally they'll destroy you via irrationality and/or incompetence and hyper-defensiveness. Whereas Lesbo bosses will destroy you out of pure spite.

However: women are taking over management in many fields. So like TheFather we men may have no choice but to work for them and try to trick them into not destroying us.

[Rush87]

(09-19-2011 09:21 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 08:06 PM)Prowl Wrote:  

Men are a lot tougher to hoodwink, in my experience.

That is definitely true, but chicks are way worse in my experience.

Female bosses are more likely to:

Micromanage.
- Create and enforce an atmosphere of over-the-top political correctness.
- Chop the balls off all male subordinates.
- Sexually harass (of four chick bosses I've had, two have made passes at me; and it's technically two out of three since my first female boss was my mom).
- Be unmarried and therefore miserable.
- Be unappreciative of good work, but be the first to tell you when you fuck up.
- Be passive aggressive ('Don't take this the wrong way...', 'You could have done this...')

Yeah, I've had some hardass male bosses, but even still those guys were never passive-aggressive (you can't be a good boss and be passive aggressive), always gave you props on your good work and outside of work were guys that you could grab a beer with.

Bingo on the micro management. Part of the reason for this is that the jobs most of these women do are completely irrelevant. You could do away with their position and the staff would still function to the same degree. The micro management comes out of a need to 'appear busy' when in reality it's just a company wasting 50k per year on a position they never really needed.

[The Father]

(11-21-2015 06:18 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I wrote a post on a similar topic:

"If you get assigned to a lesbian boss, commit hair-kari now"

Basically dyke bosses hate men and will do anything they can to destroy male fellow workers. They are 100% behind-the-back destroyers, all hate, all the time.

If you're a young man and fully under their control, and no threat to whatever empire they are building, they'll be really sweet to you while they use you to improve their position.

If you're a strong or smart older man, especially if you are good in your field, they will work with incredible political skill to destroy you. There is no middle ground. If you think you have made peace with them, you are kidding yourself. They hate you, end of discussion. If they have any shreds of power, they will use that power to get you fired.

Most female bosses are the same, but if they are straight women, generally they'll destroy you via irrationality and/or incompetence and hyper-defensiveness. Whereas Lesbo bosses will destroy you out of pure spite.

However: women are taking over management in many fields. So like TheFather we men may have no choice but to work for them and try to trick them into not destroying us.

I had the EXACT experience you described with a fat, ugly, slump-shouldered lesbian!

[rpg]

When there is a department of men and women working together, work is divided this way. Women get the easy, cool, coveted jobs. Women get seniority, recognition and preferential treatment. Men get the scraps, the impossible to get done and the difficult people to work with. If a man for some strange reason gets a responsibility a woman wants, it will be taken from him without question. This is why gay men appear as try hards. They want to run with the girl crowd and get the same spots at the trough.
My advice is to specialize in something no woman would want to do and then excel at that.

[Dr. Howard]

(11-21-2015 02:21 PM)rpg Wrote:  

I have learned something very valuable after working in a female majority workplace. All women see their boyfriends/husbands as schlubs to be used and exploited. Their smelly pussies are between their legs as leverage to get what they want. And, they are never happy.

So true, especially in an office/career environment. Most of the bitches in my office talked shit, or disrespect about their significant others....they were almost competitive with their spouse as to who had the most important career...it was gross.

The one girl I can recall that was always pleasant and supportive of her fiancee was a super hot, girl next door 21 year old that was engaged to a 50 year old...that was a friend of her Dad's growing up. We'd always ask her questions about it at happy hour when she was half in the bag and I'd whisper to my buddy "I feel like I'm listening to the plot of one of those 'barely legal' porn movies". I have never seen such daddy issues.

[The Father]

And while all this was going on, Hillary Clinton wandered from room to room, breaking wind...

[MrLemon]

(01-07-2016 11:25 PM)The Father Wrote:  

One of the problems I have with women at work (and outside of work, for that matter) is that they are so damned insecure! And most of them have admitted "yeah, I struggle with my self-confidence". I'm not talking 24 year old girls...I'm talking 35 year old managers, 50+ year old executives! On top of that, I'm something of a subject matter expert in my field, so I intimidate them.

Some of this is physical: Women are insecure because they have less testosterone than men.

My question is, what to do about it? I work in a heavy chick-centric office today. To continue to get ahead, I NEED to allay their insecurities, to make them feel better about themselves. Any advice to that end is most welcome.

Same here. It's work in a female-controlled organization or starve. There is no security then...unless you can jump over to a male boss. I have no advice to give.

5 years ago I had a career at an old-line 100% male dominated big government defense contractor. I still look back with longing at working there. It was so damned nice, just no way to say it otherwise. You could do your job, hang our with the guys, play a little basketball, and go home. Decisions were made promptly and if you screwed up, you got immediately upbraided, zero behind the back shit. There were a few women in management, but they acted like the guys...no backstabbing. Otherwise the women were confined to the administration and accounting buildings...and guess what, the women were infinitely more happy in their jobs that way! Managers knew their shit, in fact, they were ultra world-spanning experts in their shit. Also, all the guys working there were 100% in top shape, I kid you not, it was bike riding, soccer, basketball heaven.

The differences between male and female business culture could not be more clear in my mind. Damn. Now I'm feeling stupid to have left there.

[The Father]

(01-07-2016 11:43 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 11:25 PM)The Father Wrote:  

One of the problems I have with women at work (and outside of work, for that matter) is that they are so damned insecure! And most of them have admitted "yeah, I struggle with my self-confidence". I'm not talking 24 year old girls...I'm talking 35 year old managers, 50+ year old executives! On top of that, I'm something of a subject matter expert in my field, so I intimidate them.

Some of this is physical: Women are insecure because they have less testosterone than men.

My question is, what to do about it? I work in a heavy chick-centric office today. To continue to get ahead, I NEED to allay their insecurities, to make them feel better about themselves. Any advice to that end is most welcome.

Same here. It's work in a female-controlled organization or starve. There is no security then...unless you can jump over to a male boss. I have no advice to give.

5 years ago I had a career at an old-line 100% male dominated big government defense contractor. I still look back with longing at working there. It was so damned nice, just no way to say it otherwise. You could do your job, hang our with the guys, play a little basketball, and go home. Decisions were made promptly and if you screwed up, you got immediately upbraided, zero behind the back shit. There were a few women in management, but they acted like the guys...no backstabbing. Otherwise the women were confined to the administration and accounting buildings...and guess what, the women were infinitely more happy in their jobs that way! Managers knew their shit, in fact, they were ultra world-spanning experts in their shit. Also, all the guys working there were 100% in top shape, I kid you not, it was bike riding, soccer, basketball heaven.

The differences between male and female business culture could not be more clear in my mind. Damn. Now I'm feeling stupid to have left there.

I left a place like that, too. So now I need advice on how to cope with the insecure, emotional wrecks I deal with daily.

[la bodhisattva]

Being in my first year as a superior to women whose positions require BAs and often MAs, they have been extremely easy to intimidate, especially considering I was their colleague a year ago and 20 years younger. Every time I casually stroll through the hallways and encounter a female teacher (I'm in education as well) under my direct supervision, the change in body language, posture, eye contact, and vocal cadence is an amusing sight to see. These women have tenure. It would take EXTREME measures to terminate them yet they revert to subservient and docile creatures when interacting with a strong, confident, and competent authority figure.

Strangely enough, some of the best teachers for whom I am responsible are the pretty, younger ones. Initially they were indistinguishable from most of their coworkers, often worse. They clearly coasted by on their looks and social acumen. Their response to stern, fair direction caught me by surprise. Has I've come to learn in the last year or so and by finding this community, girls yearn to be led.

The male teachers give me passing nod "hello."

[John Michael Kane]

Probably the worst thing about working for a woman in a large corporation (less so in smaller ones) is that they just LOVE to follow every arcane rule and policy, especially if it makes things more complicated or inefficient. If you break said rule, they will probably tattle. Corpro type chicks really embrace totalitarianism. Men are far more willing to bend the rules when they find them to be stupid or inefficient. They're also less likely to rat on you for doing so.

[The Father]

And while all this was going on, Hillary Clinton wandered from room to room, breaking wind...

[The Father]

Hmmmm....

[John Michael Kane]

Quote:

God sent you down to earth with this message of truth! I've never seen a post that more perfectly encapsulated my every day at work. Seriously, if there is ONE thing that drives me nuts about my female boss (who is pretty senior) is that she doesn't act like a senior exec...she doesn't worry about the business...she worries about i's being dotted and t's being crossed! To a point where I want to slip some OCD medication in her diet coke!!

@The Father:

Thank you for the high praise. One learns to be an astute observer of women when works with them all day, both the good ones and the bad ones. I got out of the Fortune 500 world for exactly that reason, the constant rules being shoved down my throat. Started my own business and have never looked back. If your current boss is a plain in your flesh, I strongly suggest you look for a lateral move within your company, look to get a promotion where she is no longer an issue, or search out jobs at competitors.

Remember, they are herd creatures and the herd survives by sticking together. Herd animals do not like independent thought, which is what rule bending requires. The herd instinct was very helpful for female survival in the wilderness where communication among women was essential. That constant micromanaging, dotting i's and so forth is a malign influence of what would be a proper skill in another environment.

[infowarrior1]

That's why I am entering into the blue collar trade. Want to avoid working for female bosses as much as possible.

[Diop]

(01-08-2016 12:09 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Probably the worst thing about working for a woman in a large corporation (less so in smaller ones) is that they just LOVE to follow every arcane rule and policy, especially if it makes things more complicated or inefficient. If you break said rule, they will probably tattle. Corpro type chicks really embrace totalitarianism. Men are far more willing to bend the rules when they find them to be stupid or inefficient. They're also less likely to rat on you for doing so.

Yes, yes, and YES. My last full-time corporate job was two years ago when I had one of the worst female bosses imaginable. Over 40, bitter, fat, ugly, incompetent, micromanaging, man-hating, cunty, part of an "equal opportunity" (minority) affirmative action hire....I could go on. She couldn't understand how to do her job to save her life, so she overcompensated for it by being a rules-Nazi and picking at every administrative aspect of the HR Handbook to act like she was adding any sort of managerial value when all of us knew she was a complete and total worthless fraud.

I remember during my last month with the company we had an incident where she sent me a series of e-mails (which are a female manager specialty, rather than direct in-person communication) admonishing me for coming in 20 minutes “late” one morning even though she had given me prior approval for it as well as leaving “early” on two different Fridays (in one instance where I was given prior approval from her, the other was because it was for a Happy Hour sponsored by the CFO). My female coworkers would come in late regularly as well, but she didn't care about that of course. She decided to take "corrective action" on me for this which required me to report directly to her in-person each morning when I arrived at work, when I went to lunch, when I returned from lunch, and when I left for the day. If she wasn't at her desk, I had to e-mail her when I was doing all of these things. It was bullshit, completely unprecedented and unprofessional for a salaried employee, but instead of losing my shit I decided to give her a dose of her own medicine.

I followed her requirements to the letter of the law, so much so that I e-mailed or notified her every single time I went to the men's room to take a shit or went to the floor above us to pick up a document or (professionally) consult with a coworker two desks over, etc. Every time I went to the kitchen to grab some water I'd e-mail or notify her when I left and then two minutes later when I returned. I'd get phone calls from outside vendors and shoot her emails informing her when they'd call and when I was off the phone. It got so bad that I was e-mailing or visiting her every 20 minutes to let her know what I was up to. She was seething when she figured out what I was doing and tried to get even with me by tallying up the minutes I was on my short breaks so she could take it out of my vacation time, but then I pointed out to her that the HR Handbook only allowed vacation and sick days to be taken off in half or full-day increments and the time off must be taken in consecutive hours, so she was shit out of luck. All about following the rules, right?

I'd had a few awful female bosses before that last job, which (among other things) helped push me to both start my own side business and continue to fully swallow the red pill. In that respect, I suppose I should be grateful for them. At the time of the above my side business had grown large enough that I was just about ready and able to leave that last shitty job, so the timing worked out. I left shortly after all of that bullshit, and I heard from a former coworker that they struggled mightily after I left because that former manager of mine was too incompetent to pick up the slack and was let go only a couple of months after I left.

Nowadays I work for myself, and when I take on freelance gigs I'm very discriminatory about who I'll be working with or for. If it's some female who I get a cunty or bossy vibe from, I'll simply pass on the assignment, because I can. Of all the advice I can offer to young men on taking employment, not working directly beneath a female is number 1 by about a million light years.