[Banna]

(02-25-2018 06:03 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  

@banna - how come you werent interested in a girl hot enough to get invited to a Drake party?

Because I don't give a shit about gaming broads obsessed after OVO and their affiliates. Some of them when I go out just by appearance you can already see that's what they're on and I don't even bother. These 2 were actually students at a university here...or so they said.

I just want to game girls without feeling to be affiliated to OVO or be seen as some professional basketball player....is that too much to ask? Lol.

I can't fully blame Drake for all this like some are.....he just ain't helping the situation.

The arrival of the Raptors in 95-96 (+ visiting NBA teams) and their entourages changed the landscape here forever.

And with them came opportunists like Mona. I'm sure as a once concession stand girl she surveyed the rather quaint Toronto entertainment scene and felt like Tony Montana taking over the cocaine scene in Miami with the line: "This city is one big pussy waiting to get fucked"

And regarding her and Toronto thats literally what happened.

[RiskIt4Biscuit]

The classic:

http://bigghostlimited.com/big-ghost-pre...re-review/

[Keepiticy2]

(02-25-2018 05:21 PM)ag101 Wrote:  

Having had a front row seat to his career; living in the same city, having met him and having mutual friends... I'll give my perspective.

Drake early in his career had zero game. He was well known as a chump who spent money on girls and got played.. Many times.

Now, it's not as much game, as it is just not allowing himself to get caught up.

At his current status, it's purely "fame" or "wealth" game, that's really all. He's not likely to be more skilled than the average guy, but because of his fame and status, he's always going to have more options, and that's a matter of fact.

To me, he's still a sucker. He loves dealing with strippers and is quick to fund their lifestyle in exchange for them staying quiet. Drake is letting a lot of clowns and hoes eat off his name/money in Toronto. One of the reasons why the city has become such a thirst trap.

You go to any King Street club on a Friday or Saturday, and you're likely to see girls only looking for guys affiliated with the OVO/XO/LL4L crews and looking for a come-up.

Shit, go to Lost & Found on a Monday and you'll find the place packed with prostitutes trying to make a come up off these OVO losers.

As a huge Drake fan i can completely believe that's true

[ksbms]

(02-24-2018 11:31 AM)Savemham Lincoln Wrote:  

No. True game is universal. Listen to Dr Knockboot.

Nas made this song 20 years ago and the principles he is spitting are being repeated over in the Aziz thread today. He has had everything Drake has and is better looking but he is kicking true game that all men, regardless of background, looks or financial status, can all apply.

Yo, DO: play your game right, if the G's tight
Then you can fuck shorty the same night
Yo, DON'T: trick when you don't have to
You think you ballin? You turn your back they laffin at you
You don't gotta keep repeatin you a thug, she heard you
In fact, she attracted to your man that herbed you

Amen to that.

[ksbms]

(02-25-2018 04:40 PM)Mr. Bigglesworth Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 08:04 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 10:09 AM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

This forum really hates Drake lol Maybe I respect him since I grew up listening to him (his first mixtape came out when i was 13)

He gets way too much undeserved hate on here.

Because he's a phony and his music sucks. And he ruined rap by making it mainstream pop.

Dude claims to be hood but grew up in an upper class jewish family in Toronto. Nothing screams gangster like having your Bar Mitzvah in the ball room at the Ritz-Carlton!

And his music is terrible. Look at what rap was in the 90's early 00's and compare it to the ear diarreah that it is now. Drake is one of the man reasons for the decline of the genre. All rap is now is shitty pop club music for white girls to twerk to and to LARP in acting hood.

[Keepiticy2]

Another person I know people hate but has a great understanding of women is Lil Wayne.

I mean he pretty much made the term MOB.

[ksbms]

(02-25-2018 07:42 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

As a huge Drake fan i can completely believe that's true

Fandom is for children, teens, and maybe some young girls.

As a man you respect certain men (and women where its due) for their achievements, contributions to the betterment to the society, honour code, principles and host of other truly estemable qualities. For example, to me, a man worthy of respect is Winston Churchill who, whilst a Prime Minister during WWII had a weight of the future of Europe and lives of millions people on his shoulders in 1940. He inspired Britain not to surrender whilst facing fierce opposition from Halifax and Chamberlain in his War Cabinet to enter talks with Hitler. He did not give to this tremendous pressure. Ultimately, he changed the course of WWII.

There are many, many men, from explorers to scientists to politicians to reformers to visionaries to military men to fathers who work hard, day in and day out, to provide to their families who deserve respect.

I hope you begin to get the picture.

Drake? What did Drake do? An opportunist promoted by showbiz to bring big bucks to producers and business owners, who just happened to be in the right place and the right time.

A clown like many others in showbiz.

[tr1cky]

I am a fan of many people. I'm not a fan of everyone I respect though.

Does that make me beta?

[Savemham Lincoln]

The reason for the Drake hate is that the people here are looking past his celebrity and judging what kind of man he is.

Put another way, would you want to be friends with a regular guy who has Drake's tendencies? Would you have a regular guy with those tendencies as a wingman? My answer is Fuck No!

Beyond his money and his fame there is nothing about Drake that inspires men.

[Keepiticy2]

(02-26-2018 09:19 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 07:42 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

As a huge Drake fan i can completely believe that's true

Fandom is for children, teens, and maybe some young girls.

As a man you respect certain men (and women where its due) for their achievements, contributions to the betterment to the society, honour code, principles and host of other truly estemable qualities. For example, to me, a man worthy of respect is Winston Churchill who, whilst a Prime Minister during WWII had a weight of the future of Europe and lives of millions people on his shoulders in 1940. He inspired Britain not to surrender whilst facing fierce opposition from Halifax and Chamberlain in his War Cabinet to enter talks with Hitler. He did not give to this tremendous pressure. Ultimately, he changed the course of WWII.

There are many, many men, from explorers to scientists to politicians to reformers to visionaries to military men to fathers who work hard, day in and day out, to provide to their families who deserve respect.

I hope you begin to get the picture.

Drake? What did Drake do? An opportunist promoted by showbiz to bring big bucks to producers and business owners, who just happened to be in the right place and the right time.

A clown like many others in showbiz.

To me this is the problem with the Manosphere (or whatever) everything is taken too far. Even the manliest men back in the 60's and before were fans of certain types of music. Going to certain events, reading certain books just because they were a fan of that person. Its ok to be a fan. Its different to be obsessed with a person which is what i think you mean

WIth that said i have massive respect for Churchill, and all the other things you named. I'm all for heroics and charismatic leaders. I really respect Teddy Roosevelt and JFK. You're talking to the wrong person about the respect part

[kaotic]

(02-27-2018 01:05 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

To me this is the problem with the Manosphere (or whatever) everything is taken too far. Even the manliest men back in the 60's and before were fans of certain types of music. Going to certain events, reading certain books just because they were a fan of that person. Its ok to be a fan. Its different to be obsessed with a person which is what i think you mean

No, it's NOT a problem with the manosphere.

The reason you aren't liking it is because we're looking past the fame and bullshit.

We see it for what it really is - THE TRUTH.

You're not seeing a bigger picture, idolizing guys like Drake and Lil' Whatever is definitely fandom - these guys aren't doing real shit - they're smoke and mirrors.

They're just puppets getting pulled by head honchos in Pedowood and LA.

It's not taken too far at all - what you're not understanding is there's guys out there that are definitely commanding of our respect.

Even back that men with respect...respected men deemed worthy of it.

Fandom is a child like thing - like a little girl screaming at a concert of Bieber.

If you think Drake keyed the term MOB - you don't know a single thing about rap/hip hop culture and need to look back at least 30 years, dudes have been talking MOB for decades in rap.

[Dragan]

Drake does so well because he's a big hip hop entertainer. Hip Hop is liked the most prized music subculture these days for younger people other than EDM. So he is automatically a "tough guy" even though he does Beta rapping. So called gangster with a soft side, although Drake never did anything gangster. But anyway, I think he's started to dress more metro, and I can't believe the girls are into looking like freaking bieber. Drake and Beieber literally look the same, madness... If you're an artist, musician entertainer, that has at least some public appeal the rules change for you. You can open all sorts of doorways, I mean have you heard the crazy stories of people hanging out in the celebrities entourage? Drake has high value so he can talk about sensitive, beta stuff. No different than Serge Gainsbourg or a poet.

[Keepiticy2]

(02-27-2018 01:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

No, it's NOT a problem with the manosphere.

The reason you aren't liking it is because we're looking past the fame and bullshit.

We see it for what it really is - THE TRUTH.

You're not seeing a bigger picture, idolizing guys like Drake and Lil' Whatever is definitely fandom - these guys aren't doing real shit - they're smoke and mirrors.

They're just puppets getting pulled by head honchos in Pedowood and LA.

It's not taken too far at all - what you're not understanding is there's guys out there that are definitely commanding of our respect.

Even back that men with respect...respected men deemed worthy of it.

Fandom is a child like thing - like a little girl screaming at a concert of Bieber.

If you think Drake keyed the term MOB - you don't know a single thing about rap/hip hop culture and need to look back at least 30 years, dudes have been talking MOB for decades in rap.

1. You got this all wrong yet again. I saying a man can be a fan of an artist for his music. Im not a fan of drake cause his lifestyle. i like drakes music (except the simpy stuff)
2.I didn't say MOB was started by Drake. However i did think Lil Wayne made it popular because of the song, and the tattoo he was known for (that he had since 1999)
3.I would never scream at a man at a concert. I see being a fan as the same as a man going to maybe a Foo Fighter or Metallica concert just because he enjoys the music
4. I didn't say yall had to respect Drake, at all. He replied to me because I said I was a Drake fan. And i replied it's ok to be a fan of a person, which i still believe you can be
5. Yall convinced me already made 3 pages ago that it's mainly just his fame. Hell the post he replied to was a post of me admitting that his fame was his main reason for success with women


I still hold to my beliefs that a man can be a fan of music. Maybe I should have said I'm a fan of his music (but not the man) so I admit it might have been a bad choice in words

[Keepiticy2]

(02-27-2018 01:28 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Drake does so well because he's a big hip hop entertainer. Hip Hop is liked the most prized music subculture these days for younger people other than EDM. So he is automatically a "tough guy" even though he does Beta rapping. So called gangster with a soft side, although Drake never did anything gangster. But anyway, I think he's started to dress more metro, and I can't believe the girls are into looking like freaking bieber. Drake and Beieber literally look the same, madness... If you're an artist, musician entertainer, that has at least some public appeal the rules change for you. You can open all sorts of doorways, I mean have you heard the crazy stories of people hanging out in the celebrities entourage? Drake has high value so he can talk about sensitive, beta stuff. No different than Serge Gainsbourg or a poet.

I haven't met a single person who thinks Drake is a gangster. Most see him as a typical Rapper. you don't have to be a gangster to be a rapper

[kaotic]

Tupac used that term way before Wayne was even on the set - even ATQ did let alone NWA come on now !

Wayne is known for YMCMB along with everyone at YME.

Yeah I agree you can be a fan of the music, I definitely am a fan of some guilty pleasure rappers and bands who SIMP.

[tr1cky]

Kaotic - do you think the manosphere has any problems? Things that are wrong or taken too far?

[H1N1]

Apropos of not very much:

[kaotic]

(02-27-2018 01:57 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  

Kaotic - do you think the manosphere has any problems? Things that are wrong or taken too far?

I think the manosphere is fine besides some of the autistic screeching and undercover trolls. Obviously there's idiots and fringe personalities - which there are in every sphere.

"Too far" is a relative term - depends on your definition - what's "too far" to you ?

My "too far" can be alot different than yours because of my experience on this forum compared to yours.

[Keepiticy2]

(02-27-2018 01:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Tupac used that term way before Wayne was even on the set - even ATQ did let alone NWA come on now !

Wayne is known for YMCMB along with everyone at YME.

Yeah I agree you can be a fan of the music, I definitely am a fan of some guilty pleasure rappers and bands who SIMP.

I didn't know tupac started that. Wayne was the first rapper i heard as a 6 year old in 1999 so maybe that's why i thought he made the term

[kaotic]

(02-27-2018 02:38 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

I didn't know tupac started that. Wayne was the first rapper i heard as a 6 year old in 1999 so maybe that's why i thought he made the term

Haha you got some learning to do:

Drake and Wayne are TV Gangster/Rappers compared to OG's Pac, Biggie, NWA, Cube, Dre, and all the 90's rappers/groups.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-27-2018 02:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 01:57 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  

Kaotic - do you think the manosphere has any problems? Things that are wrong or taken too far?

I think the manosphere is fine besides some of the autistic screeching and undercover trolls. Obviously there's idiots and fringe personalities - which there are in every sphere.

"Too far" is a relative term - depends on your definition - what's "too far" to you ?

My "too far" can be alot different than yours because of my experience on this forum compared to yours.

The 'sphere tends to assess men on metrics beyond fame, wealth or even their success in life. If you are self-made billionaire, then we respect that to a degree, but if you get divorced 3 times by women past their prime then we see you for what you are - a Blue Pill Beta simp with zero Game and zero frame who somehow made it big.

The 'sphere instinctively understands that Drake is not the absolute shit women-wise. We see and understand the difference between blokes like Leo DiCaprio, Mel Gibson and male shmucks like Ashton Kutcher who have been given even more than the other blokes in terms of looks and height, but are far more Beta.

It's in a way a mental concept, but the mental concept is real. We look at men beyond their art even if you look at Drake. You may or may not like his musice just as you may enjoy Michael Jackson's music. But that does not mean that you respect Michael Jackson as the Alpha man, the dominant leader of his household and the pimp of bitches - a frame that would probably remain intact even if a bloke like Mel Gibson lost his wealth.

[Spartacus]

He's good with girls