[questor70]

(02-09-2018 12:06 AM)beta_plus Wrote:  

Essentially, if Marvel is to keep the character faithful, it looks like no matter how much SJW nonsense they put in the film that Black Panther is the Black Donald Trump

This is actually consistent with SJW philosophy, though. While they'd like you to think otherwise, SJWs don't advocate equality. It about POWER. Two wrongs always equal a right to SJWs. It's kind of like Animal Farm where the oppressed, once empowered, merely become the oppressors. The second you classify an entire group as "the enemy" you are dehumanizing them, which is about as far from social justice as you can possibly be.

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-13-2018 04:20 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Are Liberals really this insane?

James Woods had this to say. One would hope it is in fact parody.

[url=https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/963502373124517889][/url]

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Even worse than white SJW will be the marxist black gay SJWs and their reasons for supporting the movie:

It's expected - the guy thinks that this is how Africa would look like without any influence of the colonialists.

Maybe he should take a good hard look at countries like Ethopia, Liberia or Haiti which were black-governed partly for centuries now.

The only way to create a Swiss all-black Africa is if you rounded up all 110+ IQ blacks in the world and put them into one country. Then I am sure that they could manage if the country was given a starting base so as not to make things too hard for them.

Put the black super-tribe into Haiti and I am sure that it could be something akin to any Western country quite soon, but at this stage it is utter bullshit and a denial of reality.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/

Also what is going on with IMDB - almost 14000 given and a 7.0 rating before the movie came out?

Though to be true - the cast is fine. They obviously put in some African female warrior princesses in which is something that simply does not happen in any patriarchal African culture that I am aware of. So obviously they added that coming from communist feminazi thinking more than anything.

[Super_Fire]

(02-12-2018 04:22 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Blade and Blade 2 are the only superhero films that I liked before the Batman reboots. A trilogy of films with a black superhero fighting against the bad guys (white ones, I might add). Except Blade wasn't seen through the lens of social justice so has apparently been forgotten by the left. Sad.

Blade was excellent because he just happened to be black. He could have been white, Asian, latino, IRT...it didn't matter (yes, I know he was black in the comic, but the same applies). The looney left would probably hate Blade because of that, and because his father figure, Whistler, is an old, straight white guy.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-14-2018 04:28 AM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

(02-12-2018 04:22 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Blade and Blade 2 are the only superhero films that I liked before the Batman reboots. A trilogy of films with a black superhero fighting against the bad guys (white ones, I might add). Except Blade wasn't seen through the lens of social justice so has apparently been forgotten by the left. Sad.

Blade was excellent because he just happened to be black. He could have been white, Asian, latino, IRT...it didn't matter (yes, I know he was black in the comic, but the same applies). The looney left would probably hate Blade because of that, and because his father figure, Whistler, is an old, straight white guy.

Blade was a great character because he was not a SJW and he had a distinct personality.

The actor who played a captain on Star Trek explains it all to a SJW:

Morgan Freeman's viewpoint is simply to stop addressing the "blackness" as a defining point. Think about the movie Shawshank Redemption - Freeman's character would have worked whether he was white or Asian or Latino.

Blade does not work for the SJW, so Marvel comics brought Blade back as a joke:

In reality anyone could identify as Blade in the movies just as black boys could identify with Luke Skywalker in the original trilogy. If the new Star Wars movies created a Luke-like character who happened to be black, then hardly anyone would care.

[kirdiesel]

(02-14-2018 05:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 04:28 AM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

(02-12-2018 04:22 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Blade and Blade 2 are the only superhero films that I liked before the Batman reboots. A trilogy of films with a black superhero fighting against the bad guys (white ones, I might add). Except Blade wasn't seen through the lens of social justice so has apparently been forgotten by the left. Sad.

Blade was excellent because he just happened to be black. He could have been white, Asian, latino, IRT...it didn't matter (yes, I know he was black in the comic, but the same applies). The looney left would probably hate Blade because of that, and because his father figure, Whistler, is an old, straight white guy.

Blade was a great character because he was not a SJW and he had a distinct personality.

The actor who played a captain on Star Trek explains it all to a SJW:

Morgan Freeman's viewpoint is simply to stop addressing the "blackness" as a defining point. Think about the movie Shawshank Redemption - Freeman's character would have worked whether he was white or Asian or Latino.

Blade does not work for the SJW, so Marvel comics brought Blade back as a joke:

In reality anyone could identify as Blade in the movies just as black boys could identify with Luke Skywalker in the original trilogy. If the new Star Wars movies created a Luke-like character who happened to be black, then hardly anyone would care.

And this is exactly why Blade was better than Black Panther for me. Great movie and the lead actor just happened to be black not center the whole movie around blackness. This coming from a black guy too.

[beta_plus]

Looks like BPS and his buddy may have been ahead of the curve:


THIS IS GONNA HARSH SOME NARRATIVES: Black Panther’s Home Country Is ‘Practically Alt-Right Africa,’ Reviewer Says.

h/t Instapundit (they even linked a ROK article once)

[Leonard D Neubache]

More like Black Israel.

[beta_plus]

(02-15-2018 11:47 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

More like Black Israel.

Baby Steps ...
Baby Steps ...

[RexImperator]

Well if you read Vox Day's 16 points... alt-right is in a sense "Zionism for Everyone else".

[Samseau]

(02-15-2018 11:58 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Well if you read Vox Day's 16 points... alt-right is in a sense "Zionism for Everyone else".

Zionism is just what nations were for thousands of years before WW2.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-16-2018 01:26 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 11:58 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Well if you read Vox Day's 16 points... alt-right is in a sense "Zionism for Everyone else".

Zionism is just what nations were for thousands of years before WW2.

Almost all nations behaved like Zionist Alt-Right ethno-states. They even fought against groups which only spoke a slightly different language, but were racially and culturally 99% identical.

This was the norm in all of human history.

And even if humanity will one day have a united planet when it meets a space faring race and recognizes it's similarities when faced with real Aliens, then even then a far more non-PC view of human tribes and their motivating factors would have to be taken.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Black Panther may be a good movie of an Alt-Right African-ethno-state shitlord, but to the globalist media that is fine, because only Whites can't have those kind of heroes.

Also note this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/magaz...erica.html

Quote:

“Blade,” released in 1998, featured Wesley Snipes as a Marvel vampire hunter, and “Hancock” (2008) depicted Will Smith as a slacker antihero, but in each case the actor’s blackness seemed somewhat incidental.

“Black Panther,” by contrast, is steeped very specifically and purposefully in its blackness. “

So instead of making the characters good and interesting with "incidental" blackness, they want to revel in the race issue.

And there is nothing wrong with that except that it would have been better to give T'Challa more of some kind of personality that is beyond boring soulful saint.

Quote:

Why ‘Black Panther’ Is a Defining Moment for Black America
Ryan Coogler’s film is a vivid re-imagination of something black Americans have cherished for centuries — Africa as a dream of our wholeness, greatness and self-realization.

It's really weird that this super-advanced black nation has been imagined, created and manifested by Whites and made by White Western technology.

[RexImperator]

Character in fact invented by Jews...

I personally hate comic book movies and avoid them as much as possible but this one is somewhat tempting me due to the buzz/"controversy"/whatever.

[Kid Strangelove]

I saw Black Panther last night. I love me some "capeshit".

So, here's the deal.

Yes - Black Panther is literally about a Black Donald Trump saving the world from a "Kill all wypipo" SJW.

but here's what stuck out - for all its high praise and near perfect scores, the movie just felt... rather average. More like slightly above average. Good story, good resolution, a really good cast, but there was nothing really that "stood out" about it. It wasn't the "cinematic masterpiece" it was hyped to be.

Maybe it's because we've reached peak "capeshit" saturation? Maybe I'm personally not as big of a "capeshit" fan as I was before?
Honestly, I don't know.

What's interesting is how brainwashed people, particularly black Americans, seem to be about "representation". It seems to be a completely foreign concept to people that a fictional character doesn't have to look, act, or have the same origin as you in order to be relatable. And this need for "representation" produces the kind of entertainment that, for lack of a better term, "white people" already did ages ago.

Example: Super Mario Bros is a great, classic video game. But if someone literally remakes it today with the same graphics, gameplay, etc, but with a black Mario - it wont be "revolutionary", it will just be rehashed, lazy.

When I was a youngster, one of my favorite superheroes - Spawn - was black. But was he a generic "goody two shoes" in tights? No, the comic told a story of demons, resurrection, deals with the Devil, all sorts of cool mystical shit. It stood out, and that's why it was one of the most successful comics in the 90s. Spawn pushed boundaries and explored new and different territories.

So yeah, Black Panther is a fun, decent, safe superhero movie, the same kind that Marvel and Disney have been producing from their assembly line for over 10 years. Nothing more, nothing less.

[captain_shane]

I wouldn't mind seeing this black movie.

[CynicalContrarian]

Mean-time there's a movie out at the moment which depicts real-life folk, where ethnicity & cultural background are of no relevance to the protagonists; all the while conducting selfless & courageous acts :

15:17 to Paris.

[Matsufubu]

(02-14-2018 05:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

In reality anyone could identify as Blade in the movies just as black boys could identify with Luke Skywalker in the original trilogy. If the new Star Wars movies created a Luke-like character who happened to be black, then hardly anyone would care.

Duke Skywalker

[Yatagan]

(02-16-2018 12:53 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  

I wouldn't mind seeing this black movie.

It's been done.

[scotian]

(02-14-2018 03:13 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Even worse than white SJW will be the marxist black gay SJWs and their reasons for supporting the movie:

It's expected - the guy thinks that this is how Africa would look like without any influence of the colonialists.

Maybe he should take a good hard look at countries like Ethopia, Liberia or Haiti which were black-governed partly for centuries now.

The only way to create a Swiss all-black Africa is if you rounded up all 110+ IQ blacks in the world and put them into one country. Then I am sure that they could manage if the country was given a starting base so as not to make things too hard for them.

Put the black super-tribe into Haiti and I am sure that it could be something akin to any Western country quite soon, but at this stage it is utter bullshit and a denial of reality.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/

Also what is going on with IMDB - almost 14000 given and a 7.0 rating before the movie came out?

Though to be true - the cast is fine. They obviously put in some African female warrior princesses in which is something that simply does not happen in any patriarchal African culture that I am aware of. So obviously they added that coming from communist feminazi thinking more than anything.

Before European colonization, the Dahomey empire (modern day Benin) used females warriors in their military, accounting for about a third of the empire’s soldiers at the time:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey_Amazons

[El Chinito loco]

From a black SJW point of view i'm not even sure why they are getting collective hard ons about this. At the end of the day it's not like Black Panther was financed by Africans, filmed by a black studio, or even created by a black creative staff.

I'd bet anything that 99% of the technical staff doing all the effects and actual creation of the film were also white. It's a film and concept entirely based on Jewish and white liberal writing, characters, and branding.

A real achievement would be a film studio popping up in Africa putting out their own mainstream productions. The closest thing to that is Tyler Perry and he's an african-american so..much of his success is already piggybacked off a well developed media and entertainment industry run by Jews.

At the end of the day it's white liberals and Jew financiers who make it possible for this kind of black "achievement" to happen. If I were an even slightly red pilled black person i'd really think hard about the implications of this when it comes to the future.

[Kurgan]

(02-16-2018 12:43 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

I saw Black Panther last night. I love me some "capeshit".

So, here's the deal.

Yes - Black Panther is literally about a Black Donald Trump saving the world from a "Kill all wypipo" SJW.

but here's what stuck out - for all its high praise and near perfect scores, the movie just felt... rather average. More like slightly above average. Good story, good resolution, a really good cast, but there was nothing really that "stood out" about it. It wasn't the "cinematic masterpiece" it was hyped to be.

Maybe it's because we've reached peak "capeshit" saturation? Maybe I'm personally not as big of a "capeshit" fan as I was before?
Honestly, I don't know.

What's interesting is how brainwashed people, particularly black Americans, seem to be about "representation". It seems to be a completely foreign concept to people that a fictional character doesn't have to look, act, or have the same origin as you in order to be relatable. And this need for "representation" produces the kind of entertainment that, for lack of a better term, "white people" already did ages ago.

Example: Super Mario Bros is a great, classic video game. But if someone literally remakes it today with the same graphics, gameplay, etc, but with a black Mario - it wont be "revolutionary", it will just be rehashed, lazy.

When I was a youngster, one of my favorite superheroes - Spawn - was black. But was he a generic "goody two shoes" in tights? No, the comic told a story of demons, resurrection, deals with the Devil, all sorts of cool mystical shit. It stood out, and that's why it was one of the most successful comics in the 90s. Spawn pushed boundaries and explored new and different territories.

So yeah, Black Panther is a fun, decent, safe superhero movie, the same kind that Marvel and Disney have been producing from their assembly line for over 10 years. Nothing more, nothing less.

I find the 1997 Spawn movie to be very underrated as well as the HBO animated series.

[beta_plus]

(02-16-2018 12:43 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

I saw Black Panther last night. I love me some "capeshit".

So, here's the deal.

Yes - Black Panther is literally about a Black Donald Trump saving the world from a "Kill all wypipo" SJW.

but here's what stuck out - for all its high praise and near perfect scores, the movie just felt... rather average. More like slightly above average. Good story, good resolution, a really good cast, but there was nothing really that "stood out" about it. It wasn't the "cinematic masterpiece" it was hyped to be.

Maybe it's because we've reached peak "capeshit" saturation? Maybe I'm personally not as big of a "capeshit" fan as I was before?
Honestly, I don't know.

What's interesting is how brainwashed people, particularly black Americans, seem to be about "representation". It seems to be a completely foreign concept to people that a fictional character doesn't have to look, act, or have the same origin as you in order to be relatable. And this need for "representation" produces the kind of entertainment that, for lack of a better term, "white people" already did ages ago.

Example: Super Mario Bros is a great, classic video game. But if someone literally remakes it today with the same graphics, gameplay, etc, but with a black Mario - it wont be "revolutionary", it will just be rehashed, lazy.

When I was a youngster, one of my favorite superheroes - Spawn - was black. But was he a generic "goody two shoes" in tights? No, the comic told a story of demons, resurrection, deals with the Devil, all sorts of cool mystical shit. It stood out, and that's why it was one of the most successful comics in the 90s. Spawn pushed boundaries and explored new and different territories.

So yeah, Black Panther is a fun, decent, safe superhero movie, the same kind that Marvel and Disney have been producing from their assembly line for over 10 years. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just saw Black Panther - figured that I better put my money where my mouth was.
I have nothing to add that is relevant to the forum.

Great Review!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< Yeah - I heard that they toned down the social justice stuff similar to Wonder Woman and that it is a solid movie - not great, but a good superhero action flic.

So there is no controversy aside from the bullshit that feminists or SJWs make it about.

And who knows - such an African city might very well exist in the year 2700. Sure - by then the rest of the world might be equally developed, but does not mean that this won't be real some day.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(02-16-2018 08:45 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

A real achievement would be a film studio popping up in Africa putting out their own mainstream productions...

Got you covered there: