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Escalating with cute virgin girl
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Escalating with cute virgin girl

I noticed a cute girl sitting outside the club alone, so I went over to introduce myself and somehow we ended up talking for almost 2 hours. Despite the freezing cold weather, she stayed longer just to talk with me. She seemed super innocent and she laughed at all my jokes and stories. So i couldn't escalate on her, i didn't feel comfortable. Still a newbie after all. Also, for the fact that her obnoxious drunk friend, kept coming back to check on us, and she kept trying to steal the attention, and was kind of annoying to be honest.

The blonde and I end up exchanging numbers and she says goodbye. Her group were leaving the club to head home, since it was getting late. When i woke up in the morning i had a text message from her saying, "I’m sorry for my friend yesterday, she was super drunk, you were nice to her, but she was annoying and kept interrupting us...". I said it's fine. I asked when i would see her again? she said she will be out with her friends again next week. I said great, see you then. I didn't think much of it, just another interaction.

Fast forward next week, we meet again at the same club, and she's with a new group of friends. These girls are all cute man, what the fuck is going on, I’m thinking. Like 7 and 8's. She seems happy to see me, and she introduces me to her group of friends. Then i get the "ohh you're X? we've heard a lot about you", and I’m like oh shit, did i really make such a good impression last weekend. Did she already tell them about me? Her friends all seemed to be giving me looks and giving me thumbs up from distance. One of them even said "you're actually cool as fuck, i like you" after talking for like 5 minutes with her. They all seemed to take a liking to me.

This was all the IOI’s I needed. We ended up sitting outside again talking about all kind of stuff, without getting interrupted this time. We laughed and talked for an hour. This time I was more physical, I wanted to escalate more. We held hands, I hugged her more, she was resting on my shoulder outside telling me stories, and we danced that night. I wanted to push for the kiss, but I could clearly feel she was shy, so I couldn’t do it, she kind of rejected it, saying she would give me a kiss on the cheeks instead. We hugged goodbye and she left with her friends.

But I felt like I was wasting my time, wasn’t progressing as fast as I would like, and I was dedicating most of my time with her when I went out, now 2 weekends in a row. There was a bunch of girls out there waiting to be gamed, and I wanted to learn fast. But at this point I didn’t know what kind of girl I was dealing with. She texted me saying “sorry about last night, I don’t hope I was boring, and sorry for not kissing you, I am just very shy”.

I teased her saying “You’re rejecting me because you don’t like me, admit it”. She said “No, I really like you”. I asked her how many guys she’s been with, and she said 0. I figured it all made sense now. She’s a virgin, that’s why she’s shutting down my escalation. She is slowly building trust to me. But how could such a cute girl be a virgin, those are so rare nowadays, and you certainly don’t meet many in nightclubs. 5’4, petite, blond, feminine, great body. Something is wrong.

A few days ago, was my birthday, I went out with a bunch of friends and wasn’t expecting to see her. But she messaged me saying she’s got a birthday present for me and she’s in town. I said cool I am with friends, but we can meet later tonight. We met later that night and she was very happy to see me. I asked what my gift is, and she said I can have anything I want. So, I said, I want a kiss. She was shy and was talking around at first. But I decided I can’t wait longer and held her, pulled her close to me and said, too late now, I’m taking my gift. And I kissed her. She looked at me with the brightest smile. I had to ask. “Is this your first kiss, no way, right?” She nodded with her eyes lighting up. I couldn’t believe it. Seriously. This is my questions…

1.Did I play it well, and wait a few meetups for her to build trust in me slowly? Or am I wasting my time while I could be out gaming other chicks these 3 Fridays I have been seeing her. I only just started my game journey a month ago, and still have a lot to learn.

2.How do I go about it now if I want to escalate? Do I invite her over, or ask her out, and build more trust? She’s still shy, but more open than when I first met her. So, inviting her over and banging her is in my mind unlikely, but you’re the experts so I’d like to hear your input on this.

If you were in my situation how would you have handled things differently? And how would you handle things forward, from now on?

TLDR; met a cute blond girl, 5’4, petite, feminine, great body at the club, we hit it off well one night, we exchange numbers. We meet again next week and she has told her girl friends about me, and suddenly starts giving more IOI's. I try to escalate but she's hesitant at first and nothing much happens that night, but i do more physical escalation. Third time we meet, i manage to kiss her. She tells me she's a virgin and that i am her first kiss. Now what?
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#2

Escalating with cute virgin girl

Virgins are normally incredibly sexually curious and horny despite their shyness, inexperience etc.

Girls talk about sex all the time with other girls. She’s hearing all these stories, she’s curious, she’s intrigued but she’s passive. She doesn’t want or dare take the first step. That’s why being alpha and taking the lead is so important and powerful.

Do you have your own place? If you do, invite her over and cook together. Based on your description of her(feminine, sweet etc) , she would really enjoy the experience and it also multiplies on the comfort level when you do something intimate like cook together. Hug her, hold her hand, share a kiss while cooking, it drives them nuts.

After dinner, settle on the bed(hide all your chairs if you have any) and play a nice romantic film and step up the kino slowly. She will resist but guide her along and reassure her with words and affection and touch, she will open up slowly.

A sweet girl should be rewarded with alpha behavior so be firm yet gentle with her and you will see her melt into your frame.
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#3

Escalating with cute virgin girl

Starting with the punchline: it's possible that this rosy picture is real, but it's highly improbable. So, engage but don't invest.

Now some food for thought from a fellow noob:

1- How old are you and how old is she? I'd say you're both very young or somewhere rather conservative

2- You're already too invested and you know it. That's natural but you need to hedge. Pursue other girls too. Easy fix

3- You're not playing it well, my man. Your line "You’re rejecting me because you don’t like me, admit it” is abysmal, joke or no joke. You're still in it though.

4- Don't get into deep topics over text, like her emotional past and all that. Some would say don't get into that at all, but it depends. If you must, do it in person, keep it light and listen more than talk.

5- If she's such a unicorn, how come she's hitting the club every weekend with the girls? Why are they there? Bonus: How did her friends act, dress, talk around you and other guys? "Birds of a feather...", brother

All that said, I'm rooting for you. Don't over analyze when you see her and do what comes naturally to you in the moment. If she's indeed a unicorn, have fun but don't break her, a man should have a code. If not, you'll
have all the other girls I told you to pursue!

Keep us updated. Been there myself so curious how this will go.
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Escalating with cute virgin girl

Quote: (02-06-2018 09:47 PM)Zerdame Wrote:  

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Excellent analysis, thank you for the advice. Very interesting. I just moved out to my own place 2 weeks ago, so that's definitely something i will try next.

Quote: (02-08-2018 06:47 AM)MPD Wrote:  

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1. She's 19 and i just turned 22.

2. I think you're on to something. And yeah, i am currently pursuing another girl, which i will be going out with next week.

3. I don't know, i just said that to bait a reaction out of her, and she jumped on the hook.

4. Yeah you're right, i am not doing that shit. I don't even text her much, i do 90% of the work in person, i think it's much better. The problem is, she's not much of a talker, or she's still shy to open up, so i have to do most of the talking for now.

5. Yeah man, i asked her the exact same thing. She said she's out for something serious, the few times guys had show interest in her, they only wanted to fuck her and leave. She's not interested in that.

I need to figure out what i want at the moment. After my shitty ex relationship, i didn't feel like i gained much experience, sex wise. We had sex like once a month, and back then i was "fine" with it, because my beta mentality told me to accept her terms, or else she would leave me. Thank god i don't think like that anymore. I learned a lot of things about myself after the breakup, and realized all my mistakes, the red flags i had ignored, my ex's narcissistic behavior etc.. And it was also at this point i got red pilled, started to stop putting girls on a pedestal, and saw things from another perspective. After reading "The Rationale Male" and finding out about RVF i started seeing the light. I have been thinking about it, and I thought banging a lot of random girls wont really help me. But rather that i find one girl to settle with and focus on for the next few months at least. Build experience, gain more confidence, then go out there again fully ready, if it doesn't work out.

What do you think about this thought process? I know it's not very "game" orientated since game preaches abundance, and having multiple options open, but i figured everyone runs their own kind of game. Perhaps LTR is my game for now, but it could change later on. Still trying to figure it all out. That's why i signed up on this forum.
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Escalating with cute virgin girl

This sounds like typical dont fuck up game scenario. Each time I met a girl like that she ended up being a LTR.

Follow the exact first-date bang method even though it's your 4th date now. Dinner at your place might sound good but to me is a big investment on your part if the girl turns out to be unpleasant. Or fucking vegan and gluten intolerant or shit. Plus food lower the effects of alcohol and makes women sleepy and cuddly, not horny.

Up to you.

Dont let her telling you she is a virgin distract you. What women says are irrelevant. Focus on your mission, which is making her feel like having sex with you "just happen".

Invite her to a bar you have on lock down that is near your place, early evening. Have a drink and HAVE FUN, that's the most important. Touch her but dont go too heavy on the kino.

During the date try to slip in some details for the hook later. Ex, show her pics from your travel, then if she likes it spontaneously say "I have a big folder of these on my computer, let me show you"

Dont forget the false time constraint "cant tarry though, I got work early tomorrow". If she is truly inexperienced she needs plausible deniability.

Have drinks at your place, ideally some wine. From a guy living in Paris, white wine gives a better and classier feeling. Red if you wanna play safe.

Put on some light music, talk and start escalating. Dont be discouraged if she resists you at first. 2 steps back, one step forward. When you kiss her, go easy with groping, and caress her neck and lower back.

Once you get there, the rest is just about lowering her ASD (if she has some). Be persistent but be gentle, caveman game is high risk high reward. You do need to push as far as you can without being creepy though. If she is going out to clubs every weekend chances are some guys will (or have) fuck her. Might as well be you.


Last note: virgins are pleasant, but I dont recommend for newbies unless you want a girlfriend. In case she gets attached it can be a hell of an emotional mess.

Good luck, fortune favors the bold.

Ass or cash, nobody rides for free - WestIndiArchie
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Escalating with cute virgin girl

Remember, "If you find yourself having to ask for advice on how to get a particular girl, you won’t get her." Thus, asking for advice on a girl before she has yet to reject you or raise a red flag indicates that OP and this precious young specimen will likely never bang. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. The silver lining is the girl is still communicating with OP and seems interested in exploring his masculine presence, so I would absolutely set the goal of getting her alone in a more intimate venue, or at home, without distractions, no friends, no club, ASAP, just me and her spending some quality time getting comfortable together, if only for the skill-building experience of communicating with an attractive female. If she likes OP, his logistics are in place, and he guides her gently in the direction of meeting his desires, it's just a matter of time before things escalate to a bang. If not, at least he has acquired some valuable lessons about how his personality interfaces with beautiful prospects in the field. Either way, nothing any of us say now can help the OP. He must pursue her without fear or doubt, as if he cared little about the outcome, but only the experience gained from the pursuit. Then, when it is all settled, the chips have fallen, and the courtship has (for better or worse) run its course, the OP would be well advised to return here and let us know how it went. Get out there and enjoy yourself!
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