[redbeard]

(11-26-2018 07:15 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  

I'd also like to 2nd the relationship with others / ugly friends. I am wary of a hot girl who has only unattractive friends also. It means she needs to be in control and have the power over them (given to her by her superior looks). Ideally the girl is able to interact with all types of people and is comfortable in her skin. To me this is a true sign of beauty. A girl who can show respect to people who are maybe a little ugly, or old, kids, or people who just don't serve a function for her is very attractive these days. It can be hard to find a girl in the west in a big city who doesn't have this cut throat climber attitude.

This^^^ is such an underrated factor.

When a hot girl has hot friends, it shows that she isn't afraid of being seen as "less attractive." Hot girl with ugly friends probably means she needs some kind of ugly backdrop to feel confident about herself, possibly signaling to signs of low self esteem.

Also shows where her habits lie. I'd bet that a group of hot girls is more responsible about their health & fitness, while a skinny girl with ugly friends might be tempted to go get ice cream more often.

[the-dream]

(01-22-2018 01:08 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

I think it's a sign of high character if a hot girl is friends with ugly / low value people. If they only hang out with other high status / beautiful people they're usually cunts.

I've had the opposite experience with girls like that. If you bring them around high value people or pretty girls, they get uncontrollably and irrationally jealous and cause a lot of trouble. Her lack of pretty or high value friends is probably due to her blowing up in their faces over her jealousy. These girls feel the need to surround themselves with uglier or poorer people feed their ego.

[SlickyBoy]

It's difficult to keep a list of every last thing. Instead, just watch for the most common personality disorders among women.

Borderline, Avoidant, Dependent and Histrionic. That bullshit rag is geared towards general thot readership so yeah, ignore the rationalizing woven into the details. Very helpful of them to list the big four danger zones.

That last one - Histrionic (HPD) sticks out like a sore thumb once you know the signs.

[Zoso]

(11-28-2018 07:41 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  

This.

When I was younger I never paid attention to how my ex's treated strangers, or even those "friends" she wasn't really close with. It was eye opening as I looked back and realized most were miserable people who treated people like shit.

Yes.

Unhappy people try to make other people unhappy as well.

[Off The Reservation]

lack of alcohol control

last week a drunk chick flashed me in front of her husband and told me that he married her because of "these" which were very average latina b cup tits. The guy actually apologized to me for her behavior.

[Geomann180]

(12-04-2018 12:09 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

The guy actually apologized to me for her behavior.

1) Ouch
2) They deserve each other

G

[ChicagoFire]

* Post 35 and childless. If you pay for the medical treatments to get a child you're a schmuck. Doesn't matter if she rode the carousel or is a nun which means she's so ugly no man wants her.
* Works a deadend job.
* Trashy tattoos.
* Socially retarded.
* Talks like a hood rat.
* Treats her friends like crap.
* Is the annoying fat chick of the group.
* Has at least 2 cats.
* Her playlist is full of hipster bands that nobody listens to or was cool 10 years ago.
* Short haircut aka I quit at life because hair maintenance is too hard.
* Has weird/loser (not quirky) friends. One of the trashiest women I've ever met would hang around guys that look like they play D&D all day long and met her through some online community. Not to be confused with volunteering with special needs children (that's cool).
* Her makeup is weird. These are one of those things where you have to see it as I can't discuss technique or brands.
* This one is tricky but pushes social norms. I've known pro-Trump girls that are high quality and cool and conversely I've known LOOK AT ME type girls that support Trump because they're low quality.

[Thot Leader]

1) As the OP pointed out, maybe the #1 sign of a low quality woman is that she claims to have had an abusive ex. This means she either lacks the ability to judge character (ie sucks at choosing men), is powerfully attracted to bad boys, is a liar, blames others for her own poor choices, or is looking to garner sympathy points from a white knight. Every woman I've dated who had a sob story about an abusive ex was herself a master manipulator.

2) Unhealthy relationships with animals, either by being cold toward them (imo any normal person should appreciate dogs and/or cats), or else uses pets as a stand-in for human relationships (e.g. stereotypical cat lady in training). An emotionally healthy woman can and will bond with pets without seeing them as her children (or worse, as her husband).

3) Messy car and apartment have been pointed out several times. This is a good one, but bear in mind a woman can be a sociopath and still maintain an immaculate environment.

4) Has a lot of male friends and/or says female friends are "too much drama", etc. It's good for a woman to have a male friend or two as long as the dynamic is tantamount to brother-sister (she looks out for him, he looks out for her). If she has even one beta orbiter in her life, that's a red flag. Same with gay friends, women seem to view them as lapdogs, which I don't think is healthy for anyone involved.

5) Only enjoys mindless entertainment, does not enjoy anything that requires thinking. It's okay to indulge in some mental junk food every so often, but if it is the staple of her diet, she's not quality. I once dated an attractive and intelligent lawyer who enjoyed Beyonce a bit too much, made me realize she lacked emotional depth.

[Jozi]

A girl who has ever had sex outside of marriage, or have been divorced. Which means in your/our case, any non-virgin woman.

[Zoso]

(12-05-2018 11:42 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

A girl who has ever had sex outside of marriage, or have been divorced. Which means in your/our case, any non-virgin woman.

What?!

So you are here in RVF to catch these low value girls, right?

[Agrippa]

She cares way too much about her birthday.

[redbeard]

Obsession with having orgasms.

Girls who have sex to orgasm are usually on the dopamine treadmill, unsatisfied with sex when they don't reach climax. This will carry outside the bedroom too, as she'll require more dopamine hits (social media, drugs, experiences) to be happy with life.

Girls who insist on orgasming likely have high notch counts, or at least masturbate frequently enough to become addicted.

They're also probably feminists, who have been brainwashed into thinking owning a vibrator is empowering. Stay away.

A girl should be completely satisfied with the sex without thinking about her orgasm. If you make her cum, it's a cherry on top, but not necessary at all.

[wemonger]

(12-05-2018 02:36 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

1) As the OP pointed out, maybe the #1 sign of a low quality woman is that she claims to have had an abusive ex. This means she either lacks the ability to judge character (ie sucks at choosing men), is powerfully attracted to bad boys, is a liar, blames others for her own poor choices, or is looking to garner sympathy points from a white knight. Every woman I've dated who had a sob story about an abusive ex was herself a master manipulator.

I don't know where you're finding these women that don't claim to have an abusive ex. That's the universal female breakupdivorce script.

[Thot Leader]

(12-06-2018 11:35 AM)wemonger Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 02:36 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

1) As the OP pointed out, maybe the #1 sign of a low quality woman is that she claims to have had an abusive ex. This means she either lacks the ability to judge character (ie sucks at choosing men), is powerfully attracted to bad boys, is a liar, blames others for her own poor choices, or is looking to garner sympathy points from a white knight. Every woman I've dated who had a sob story about an abusive ex was herself a master manipulator.

I don't know where you're finding these women that don't claim to have an abusive ex. That's the universal female breakupdivorce script.

I don't think the majority of women make this claim. I've heard it from four or five women out of the dozens I've gotten to know intimately well, so around 10-20%. Although I'm sure in the MeToo era of victimhood as fashion or status symbol this will become more and more prevalent.

[redbeard]

OOoh another one - positive perspective of plastic surgery. These girls don't go to the gym and want to look like a 10/10 while eating Reese's Piece's for breakfast everyday.

Put simply - they want the easy way out, and won't do the the hard stuff that's necessary to achieve a goal.

Take note of girls who would like to get their boobs or lips done, or get jealous when other girls go under the knife.

[redbeard]

Celebrity worship. If a girl looks up to these Hollywood Ho's, she ain't worth it.

[Thot Leader]

(11-29-2018 08:45 AM)the-dream Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 01:08 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

I think it's a sign of high character if a hot girl is friends with ugly / low value people. If they only hang out with other high status / beautiful people they're usually cunts.

I've had the opposite experience with girls like that. If you bring them around high value people or pretty girls, they get uncontrollably and irrationally jealous and cause a lot of trouble. Her lack of pretty or high value friends is probably due to her blowing up in their faces over her jealousy. These girls feel the need to surround themselves with uglier or poorer people feed their ego.

These are both true.

There are hot girls who only want to associate with other hot girls due perhaps to the Cheerleader effect. These are your most basic thots.

Then there are those who refuse to be around other hot girls, presumably because they need to be center of attention/want zero competitors. A much more complicated thot subtype.

I suppose in any event a quality woman shouldn't choose her friends based on what they look like.

[Remington]

(12-06-2018 08:59 AM)Agrippa Wrote:  

She cares way too much about her birthmonth.

Fixed it for you.

[Gabe]

(01-19-2018 04:45 PM)The Alpha Virgin Wrote:  

Girls who asks or makes remarks about your height before meet up from online.
Pretty much all of those girls that I've actually met up with have been full of themselves and been thinking they're the shit.
Usually the same women that will try to find out what job I have, how many facebook friends I have etc, because they seem obsessed with what other people think.

Good point.

[Built to Fade]

These three points are based on observations while roaming outside.

1. Wastes food by not finishing all the food on the plate. A lot of water is consumed just to grow even a mere kilogram of rice.
   
   
2. Refusal to learn from experiences. I understand that this means filtering out many women (as well as numerous "soyboys").
   
   
3. Not treating the unfortunate with equal kindness or respect. The video below is staged, but this kind of treatment is likely to be a frequent occurrence.
   
   
   
   

_______________________________________________
"I texted the hamster emoji to a woman once and she didn't like it. How can someone not like hamsters?" #218

[spydersuit]

1) Does not read books -> low value

2) Has a facebook, snapchat, or instagram (SM) account (the more time spent using these and accounts the lower the score) -> low value

3) Uses dating apps -> low value

4) Is a feminist -> low value

5) Thinks that gender is a construct -> low value

6) Does not eat meat (for ideological reasons) -> low value

7) Dates people that are not rooshv forum members -> low value

[lunchmoney]

This thread is gold. I suggest this be posted as a sticky in the Newbie sub-forum as must read material.

As for my newest additions:

1. Smokes - Recently met two women out who in initial talks shared they smoked weed. I am not passing judgement on anyone who does, but I don't want a LTR potential to.

2. Works a dead-end job - To me, this is worst than a woman who is a housewife. Another woman I recently met worked a $10/hour retail job, and was complaining about the 45-50 hours a week she was scheduled. She didn't finish college, and poor decisions personally and professionally landed her in that life at age 25.

3. Uses social media daily - Attention whores get no love from me.

[Aenema]

(12-14-2018 06:46 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  

This thread is gold. I suggest this be posted as a sticky in the Newbie sub-forum as must read material.

2. Works a dead-end job - To me, this is worst than a woman who is a housewife. Another woman I recently met worked a $10/hour retail job, and was complaining about the 45-50 hours a week she was scheduled. She didn't finish college, and poor decisions personally and professionally landed her in that life at age 25.

While I agree with points 1 and 3, I actually think girls who work these dead end jobs are better. 9-5 girls all have the same personality and I despise career women and everything they stand for. The dead end job girls are usually the most feminine.