Quote: (05-23-2018 12:39 AM)Super_Fire Wrote:
Logos is the ancient Greek concept, via Heraclitus and Anaxagoras, of a rational order to the universe, put simply.
The translation of "Word" is far too simplistic, which is why the beginning of John has always been so mystifying. "In the beginning was the Word." What the heck is that supposed to mean?
John wrote his Gospel in Greek though, so anyone who could have read it would have been educated and would have understand when he wrote, "In the beginning was Logos..."
In other words:
"In the beginning was the rational order of the universe, and the the rational order of the universe was with God, and the the rational order of the universe was God."
Jesus is thus the Logos incarnate. With that understanding, the New Testament makes more sense. Faith isn't believing that there's a God somewhere in the sky. Faith is believing that the universe was designed on the foundation of a rational order, and it's your job to understand that and uphold it.
Think of that and then read again something like this quote from Jesus in John:
"Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
Light, and the truth, here are the understanding that the universe is meant work a certain, rational way. Those who turn against it we know well. They are the subversives, the deviants, the despotic, and worse. The opposite are those who follow the way of how things were meant to be. We know in the pit of our stomachs what that way is.
Re: The Catholic Church, Jones was raised Catholic. Per his view, and history, the Reformation was a looting operation of Church property by rapacious robber barons, with theological justifications sermonized after the fact. In addition, it was an excuse for the newly dubbed 'Protestants' to engage in usury, just as the Jews in Europe were but the Church prohibited. Since its inception, the Church stood opposed to usury, divorce, birth control, etc. The Reformation opened the floodgates for divorce, usury, female clergy, gay clergy, and more. Not that the Catholic Church is without its problems. But pre-1965 it held the conservative line, and even had modus vivendi for dealing with Jewish cultural influence, something the Protestants are opposed to thanks to the origins of the Reformation itself as a Judaising breakaway. Now they'r even trying to legislate "Anti-Semitism" as being illegal is SC. They also make up all the pro-Israel dopes such as Evangelicals. Meanwhile in Israel, they think Christians are a bunch of stupid goyim.
Just saw Goy's Guide to History. I guess he has some good points, but overall I think he's a weirdo, if you ask me.
Don't debate me.