[SamuelBRoberts]

I've noticed the weight gain and the 3rd worlders too. It's a little disappointing.

[Bushido]

Keep the unsubstantiated low value posts coming guys....

Or get over here and actually experience what is happening on the ground.

[asiaslayer]

Visited Tokyo a few years back for a couple days. Didn’t get my katana wet with native J-poon, but I remember walking around and getting lots of stares from girls. Even in places with a lot of gaijin presence like Shibuya crossing. Not sure if they were IOIs or just the girls being curious, but I’d kill to live in Tokyo for 6 months or a year and see what the deal is.

For those of y’all that are day gamers in Japan, do you normally approach girls staring at you or showing any type of interest during the day? How’re the reactions & your notch count from these types of approaches?

[Bushido]

(01-28-2018 03:48 AM)asiaslayer Wrote:  

Visited Tokyo a few years back for a couple days. Didn’t get my katana wet with native J-poon, but I remember walking around and getting lots of stares from girls. Even in places with a lot of gaijin presence like Shibuya crossing. Not sure if they were IOIs or just the girls being curious, but I’d kill to live in Tokyo for 6 months or a year and see what the deal is.

For those of y’all that are day gamers in Japan, do you normally approach girls staring at you or showing any type of interest during the day? How’re the reactions & your notch count from these types of approaches?

Definitely approach. I'd say stares are quite uncommon here so your look may have gone down well. Usually it's more of a sneaky glance and back to their phone. Almost all my lays here come from no eye contact at all. I just go in.

[Kdog]

This thread is full of soyboys. Step your game up or stop whining you faggots.

[Bushido]

(01-28-2018 04:44 AM)Kdog Wrote:  

This thread is full of soyboys. Step your game up or stop whining you faggots.

[LoveBug]

East Asia, namely Japan and Korea, the only place where there might be a negative SMV for “westerners” bump is for the hardcore gamers and those who happen to love local culture

The attention I got in Korea when I went for a several days and that I get in Guatemala as a 6’4, scruffy white dude might be comparable but if two totally separate energies. In Korea, I got a cold vibe. People wouldn’t sit next to me on the subway, got no eye contact from women etc. In the developing world, you still get attention, but by in large it’s of a higher respect. When young kids laugh at me when I walk past in Guatemala, it’s of a playful affection, not a prejudice. People go out of their way for gringos.

Obviously I get far more attraction in Guatemala in a year than I think I might in East Asia for a lifetime. Props to the guys who stick it out. The reports that have guys shagging East Asian girls every few days I got props for

[Laner]

(01-28-2018 11:28 PM)LoveBug Wrote:  

East Asia, namely Japan and Korea, the only place where there might be a negative SMV for “westerners” bump is for the hardcore gamers and those who happen to love local culture

The attention I got in Korea when I went for a several days and that I get in Guatemala as a 6’4, scruffy white dude might be comparable but if two totally separate energies. In Korea, I got a cold vibe. People wouldn’t sit next to me on the subway, got no eye contact from women etc. In the developing world, you still get attention, but by in large it’s of a higher respect. When young kids laugh at me when I walk past in Guatemala, it’s of a playful affection, not a prejudice. People go out of their way for gringos.

Obviously I get far more attraction in Guatemala in a year than I think I might in East Asia for a lifetime. Props to the guys who stick it out. The reports that have guys shagging East Asian girls every few days I got props for

Its to be expected considering Guatemala is 99% oompaloompas and Korea has large numbers of straight up, top tier beauties.

I actually tried to rack my brain for a more lopsided comparison, but I am at a loss.

How about Ukraine vs Sri Lanka?

Or South Beach vs Tegucigalpa?

[Bushido]

Oh no you need some game in non-shithole places. The horror! May as well give up!

[LoveBug]

@Laner - Think your cool responding needlessly with negative input to the low repped guy? It just makes me you look like an insecure chump with issues

@Bushido that was needless as well, and again negative energy where there shouldn’t be any

I was just trying to give my rather benign two cents which mirrored the topic, East Asia is a tough place to game, and respect to those who do. Although I do personally question if it is worth it, as I subscribe more to the bro idiom “pussy is pussy”, but I understand East Asian beauties allure

[Bushido]

^ Wasn't responding only to you which is why I didn't quote you. No need to get all butthurt.

What we are giving out is some tough love. As my boy Kdog so eloquently pointed out (hah), guys are writing like faggots in this thread and others. It's either negative "no can do" or making up shit that simply isn't true.

Anyway, I see a pattern of dudes on this forum writing off East Asia/Japan as "hard" because you can't lay 10 in a week off Tinder like you can in Manila. As much as I love SEA and its women, I'll be blunt. The average Japanese girl is just vastly superior to the average SEA girl (I didn't say all!). Quality demands quality.

However, I'm here telling you it's not "hard" to get laid here. I don't present myself as a game master, but I am well north of 100 J-girls in my lifetime (lost count after 50). Satoshi did a stay out here lately and he got laid a ton (he learned Japanese). Laner has pillaged through Tokyo too. We have actually been there and done it. If you read back through some old threads you will see guys who worked things out and did well for themselves.
Despite this, people don't want to listen.

"But you need game..." may as well mean I don't want to try.

Guys should be working to improve themselves, not always searching for the lowest common nominator. The Japanese culture is a deep and subtle one which has eluded foreigners since forever. It's only natural that it takes a little bit of effort to work out Japanese women.

[Laner]

(01-29-2018 09:36 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  

@Laner - Think your cool responding needlessly with negative input to the low repped guy? It just makes me you look like an insecure chump with issues

@Bushido that was needless as well, and again negative energy where there shouldn’t be any

I was just trying to give my rather benign two cents which mirrored the topic, East Asia is a tough place to game, and respect to those who do. Although I do personally question if it is worth it, as I subscribe more to the bro idiom “pussy is pussy”, but I understand East Asian beauties allure

You need a sense of humor if you want to do well in Japan. If you don't think oompaloompa references are funny, then work on that first.

No one laughs in Japan unless someone gets hurt.

[Denzel]

Japan is not Philippines or Indonesia. You won't get laid just because you are a gaijin (i.e., a foreigner). I have seen gaijins, without enough game, who could not get laid in their short or medium long trips. Now when I think about it, I actually have seen gaijins who have been living in Japan and could not get laid at all, or had a hard time at the beginning.

Having said that if you stay here long enough, you can build a harem. You drop or lose some old ones, and add new ones, as you go. Or you can have an LTR with/without ONS on the side. These are based on my personal experience, not based on reading others' experiences. I have seen gaijins who get ONS during their visits. How have they done it without speaking Japanese? They have not been afraid to approach and lead.

I believe there are only few forum members, such as Cascadecombo, Bushido, NaughtyGaijin, and Skotch -not a full list-, who are more knowledgeable about Japan than me. My observations almost always coincide with what they write/tell about Japan. If our experiences are different, then forum members can read two different perspectives, and use the information accordingly.

Stay awesome.

[Fortis]

All this Japan FUD makes me want to visit even more.

[Parzival]

Make me to visit it again.

[Faceme91]

(01-11-2018 07:35 AM)Yeti Wrote:  

Everything mentioned previously on this thread seems about right.

I'd add also that Japanese students (high school, university) are studying abroad in declining numbers. And there seems to have been a shift, in which people are generally okay with not being proficient in English. These days you can 1) find someone who speaks English, 2) manage to communicate in rudimentary English and still get the job done, 3) use Google Translate or another interpretation app, or 4) some other way to communicate. And if Japanese people have figured out that they don't really need to learn English, then they now seem to be okay with not really giving a shit about the outside world.

Despite all the bullshit with deflation and a moderate economy overall, things in Japan are still quite good if you like peace, safety, and a healthy lifestyle. The average Japanese woman who might otherwise be interested in a foreigner, takes a big risk by introducing the foreign element into her life with a foreign man. Foreigners are part of the out group and, thus, not truly accepted in Japanese society. I suppose that it might always have been this way, so I'm not quite sure what changed, besides what others have mentioned previously.

One thing that I noticed in my time in Japan is that smart, good-looking women in Japan have figured out that they can get the best of both worlds in foreign men, without quite accepting them into their lives, by using them as platonic friends or as an English-speaking monkey. Professional women can even have several foreign friends (male or female) but in my experience it's quite rare that this professional will ever date a foreigner, at least on anything more than a very temporary, shallow basis. She's likely to have her foreign friends while inwardly and (mostly) outwardly professing an interest only in Japanese guys.

Of course, there are still a lot of Japanese girls who are interested in foreigners for an LTR or otherwise, but they tend to be lower-quality.

I used to think that these high-quality women were missing out by excluding foreigners, but then I think that their lives are much simpler and, perhaps, happier by just sticking to their kind. Westerners are generally neurotic and have mental health issues. Japanese men are more stable, I'd say - and there are a lot of Japanese men who are healthy, good-looking, and with a good job to boot, so I can understand why the higher-quality women would prefer them.

You know why the majority of hot Japanese dont go for the foregin dudes right? Cause they know exactly what your after. 90% of the foreigners here are single, desperate English teachers. Many of these women make money more than them. How are they supposed to be attracted to such a beta white guy? Try being a white collar, well dressed, foreigner that actually puts EFFORT into learning Japanese. Totally different story.
The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

[AsiaBaller]

(02-09-2018 03:09 AM)Faceme91 Wrote:  

You know why the majority of hot Japanese dont go for the foregin dudes right? Cause they know exactly what your after. 90% of the foreigners here are single, desperate English teachers. Many of these women make money more than them. How are they supposed to be attracted to such a beta white guy? Try being a white collar, well dressed, foreigner that actually puts EFFORT into learning Japanese. Totally different story.
The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

English teachers mainly get laid due to eager gaijin chasers coming to them to get English lessons and actively pursuing them.

As you said, foreigners tend to have no to low social status in Japan.

I'm curious on your take on a white collar career in Japan though. Unless you work for a multinational chances are you'll be stuck with a mediocre salary outside of management forever + long work hours and mandatory after work drinking. It's a place where you'll be an outsider by default and most Japanese women I see in Tokyo that are together with western guys look uncomfortable due to the non stop social shaming of them.

I foresee it getting harder in Tokyo with the ever increasing tourist numbers of people who largely don't get the culture (Logan Paul types) and the foreseeable increase in frictions during the Olympics in 2020.

[Suits]

(01-29-2018 09:36 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  

@Laner - Think your cool responding needlessly with negative input to the low repped guy? It just makes me you look like an insecure chump with issues

Most of the time these Internet psychological diagnoses are a pretty effective tool. Nobody on an Internet forum can really respond to claims that they are insecure, a chump or have other "issues."

Except when they "anonymous" Internet forum poster has met other people. Case in point, I've met Laner. On several occasions. In two cities on two different continents.

Your analysis of Laner as "an insecure chump with issues" is the most laughable thing I've read on this forum in a long damn. In fact, it's probably the dumbest thing I've read anywhere in a long damn time.

This first time I met Laner, I was with another forum member in Hong Kong. We had no idea what Laner looked like, but the moment he walked out of the subway exit, we both immediately looked at each other and said, "this must be him."

Laner was the classiest, most chill gentlemen I've met to date. He is always dressed very, very well, but not in an attention seeking way. It would be hard to imagine him not being well-dressed, as it suits his confident character like a glove. Which incidentally is also how his suits fit him. This man exhales knowledge and speak with experience on a shocking range of topics. You never get the impression that he is trying to impress you, you're just grateful for the opportunity to talk to him and benefit from his insight and analysis of the world.

Your "Internet doctor" diagnosis of Laner as "an insecure chump with issues" proves beyond any doubt that you have a complete inability to form opinions about people based on what they write on the Internet and you'd be doing yourself a favor to keep similar "diagnoses" to yourself in the future.

You really couldn't have been more wrong here.

(02-09-2018 03:09 AM)Faceme91 Wrote:  

You know why the majority of hot Japanese dont go for the foregin dudes right? Cause they know exactly what your after. 90% of the foreigners here are single, desperate English teachers. Many of these women make money more than them. How are they supposed to be attracted to such a beta white guy? Try being a white collar, well dressed, foreigner that actually puts EFFORT into learning Japanese. Totally different story.
The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

[Zerdame]

(02-09-2018 03:09 AM)Faceme91 Wrote:  

The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

Appearing conservative and being conservative is fairly different. It is difficult to not cast doubt on your self-eluded success if you actually think Japanese girls are conservative.

There are very few places in the world where any woman 'throws pussy at you." SEA is a big place with contrasting cultures and backgrounds, maybe I'm just unlucky to not have any thrown at me.

This 'game' thing doesn't work.

[C-Note]

It does often seem to be true that there's a certain "type" of Japanese girl who serially dates English teachers and/or American military dudes. I remember once showing up at the gate at the military base with a girl who hadn't dated many foreigners (or so she said). She was tall and dressed like the stereotypical OL- well-fitting pantsuit with a tasteful scarf tied around her neck. The Japanese security guards at the gate were openly staring at her because she looked so completely different from the girls that most GIs typically signed-on to the base.

However, as others in the various Japan threads have stated, there is no reason for you to get locked into that specific micro-culture if you don't want to be. There are ways out of it, of course learning Japanese being one of the most obvious routes. Just like any other culture, the people of Japan move in a complex system of social circles that are often related to social status, job, and other factors. With Japan, however, it can seem harder to identify those sub-cultures and gain access. It seems often like foreigners in Japan end up doing it by accident.

[Steve McQueen]

Currently dating a Japan girl, always looks well, zero attitude and very pleasant to be around. No issues with drugs or alcohol, no tatoos. I think you guys have just gone soft from being in an easy environment.

[Gameplan]

(01-28-2018 11:28 PM)LoveBug Wrote:  

East Asia, namely Japan and Korea, the only place where there might be a negative SMV for “westerners” bump is for the hardcore gamers and those who happen to love local culture

The attention I got in Korea when I went for a several days and that I get in Guatemala as a 6’4, scruffy white dude might be comparable but if two totally separate energies. In Korea, I got a cold vibe. People wouldn’t sit next to me on the subway, got no eye contact from women etc. In the developing world, you still get attention, but by in large it’s of a higher respect. When young kids laugh at me when I walk past in Guatemala, it’s of a playful affection, not a prejudice. People go out of their way for gringos.

Obviously I get far more attraction in Guatemala in a year than I think I might in East Asia for a lifetime. Props to the guys who stick it out. The reports that have guys shagging East Asian girls every few days I got props for

Haven't been there, but from what I've heard the scruffy look doesn't play in Korea. You want to look stylish and well dressed, not like a dirty backpacker. No offense

[Faceme91]

(02-09-2018 11:50 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 03:09 AM)Faceme91 Wrote:  

The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

Appearing conservative and being conservative is fairly different. It is difficult to not cast doubt on your self-eluded success if you actually think Japanese girls are conservative.

There are very few places in the world where any woman 'throws pussy at you." SEA is a big place with contrasting cultures and backgrounds, maybe I'm just unlucky to not have any thrown at me.

This 'game' thing doesn't work.

I think as a majority, they are conservative. Thats why i almost always approach the girls who have lived abroad and/or speak eng. Easy to start a convo and they are more "open" in gerneral imo. I dont have luck with the purely domesic j-girls, despite my japanese language ability... :/
Just use Tinder to weed out the good ones
cheers

[Faceme91]

(02-09-2018 04:10 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 03:09 AM)Faceme91 Wrote:  

You know why the majority of hot Japanese dont go for the foregin dudes right? Cause they know exactly what your after. 90% of the foreigners here are single, desperate English teachers. Many of these women make money more than them. How are they supposed to be attracted to such a beta white guy? Try being a white collar, well dressed, foreigner that actually puts EFFORT into learning Japanese. Totally different story.
The smart, pretty J-girls are not dumb like many of their S.E counterparts. They are also fairly conservative, so they arent going to be throwin pussy at you.

Anyway thats my input. Im having alot of success in Japan
Cheers

English teachers mainly get laid due to eager gaijin chasers coming to them to get English lessons and actively pursuing them.

As you said, foreigners tend to have no to low social status in Japan.

I'm curious on your take on a white collar career in Japan though. Unless you work for a multinational chances are you'll be stuck with a mediocre salary outside of management forever + long work hours and mandatory after work drinking. It's a place where you'll be an outsider by default and most Japanese women I see in Tokyo that are together with western guys look uncomfortable due to the non stop social shaming of them.

I foresee it getting harder in Tokyo with the ever increasing tourist numbers of people who largely don't get the culture (Logan Paul types) and the foreseeable increase in frictions during the Olympics in 2020.

Yea , well i work in a company in Osaka. I use english alot and we usually go home by 6pm.
Just gotta find the good companies to work for. The traditional long hours, top-down type of company is deteriorating in Japan (Thank god)
I dont have anything against teachers, its just in general, they seem to have no game... and they dress like shit
Cheers.

[Mr.GoodThread]

Part of this thread was very disheartening, but those that actually have boots down on the ground say that it's not that bad, so I will hold out hope.

I haven't been back in Japan since 4 years. I was in a relationship with a Japanese girl for nearly 12 years (2.5 years married). We officially divorced (thankfully it was the complete opposite of messy). By the time I make it back to Japan (2019 the latest) I will be 34 years old, but on good days with a fresh haircut I can appear to be in my twenties. Since I was in such a long relationship that just ended about a year ago, I have been completely devoid of practicing "game" (it's just my current reality). I plan to re-learn some Japanese before I head back there. I'm Hispanic, but can potentially pass for white or mixed with white (if that helps).

Anyone know if the popularity of the "Despacito" song has helped out Hispanics (or Hispanic-Americans) with the ladies?

Before I head back to Japan I plan to re-establish my confidence and up my skills in all areas of life.

Until I get there, please don't fuck things up too much for me guys. Wrap it up, don't have any unwanted babies, and happy banging.