[capitangeneral dela armada]

Hopefully this won't lead to more chaos as in Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. This whole situation is very similar to the Ukrainian crisis, which did not lead to good results for Ukrainians or the rest of the world. Ukraine, a European country that received extensive support from the West even with officials from EU countries filling high government posts, still remains a dysfunctional mess.

Keep in mind, Ukraine's population has an average IQ of 97, Iran has an average IQ of 84. So I doubt that if the Islamic republic is overthrown suddenly Iran will become some kind of liberal democracy as a lot of people seem to be trying to suggest.

Anyway, more recently there is also this. Regardless of what President Trump's intentions might be, the fact that the US is going to such great lengths to make its support for the protests clear is quite hypocritical considering the past 12 months of outrage over the alleged """Russian meddling."""

Quote:

US abusing UN Security Council to interfere in Iran's internal affairs – Russia

By calling a UN Security Council meeting with the demand to support anti-government protesters in Iran, the US is trying to bend the UNSC mandate, which does not deal with countries' internal affairs, the Russian envoy said.

“We obviously regret the loss of lives as a result of the demonstrations that were not so peaceful. However, let Iran deal with its own problems, especially since this is precisely what’s taking place,” Russian envoy to the UN Vasiliy Nebenzia said.

Vassily Nebenzia slammed the US for diverting attention from important international issues the UN Security Council should be addressing.

“You are dispersing the energy of the Security Council, instead of focusing it on dealing with key crisis situations in Afghanistan, Syria Libya, Iraq, Yemen, DPRK, the African continent. Instead of that, you are proposing that we interfere in the internal affairs of a state."

"We don't want to get involved in destabilizing Iran or any other country."

He also reminded Washington of its own history of cracking down on protests.

"If we follow your logic, then we should have meetings of the Security Council after the events in Ferguson or after the dispersal by force of the Occupied street movement in Manhattan.”

Also, here is a good video from not too long ago on the subject examining the situation within the geopolitical context, which cannot be ignored.

[AManLikePutin]

(01-05-2018 11:26 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

@AManLikePutin, you sound very knowledgeable about Iran, do you have particular fascination with Iran? What do you think, if shit hits the fan, will we see fighting between regular army and IRGC, with army supporting protesters?

Your guess is as good as mine mate.

A lot of those IRGC people are most likely not evil at heart, but simply have to follow orders. Maybe there'll be an internal crackdown? Who knows....In a way, I feel this is almost an endurance contest between the protestors and the regime. The regime can't have IRGC and Basiji militia on the streets for ever. Mind you ini 1978, the very first protests started about 9 months before the eventual revolution in 1979, and it's not like protests were happening every day.

Reza Pahlavi briefly touched on the IRGC/Army thing in his interview with Sky News today.

Btw, this is a very brief of the very complex political structure of IR...

Main components:
Supremer Leader/Velayate-Faqih = S.L is chosen by consensus of Assembly of experts. Permanent position until deceased. He can veto any legislation or Executive Order passed by any of the other factions below.
President = Anyone can register, but then candidates' qualifications and backgrounds are filtered by "Security Council". Usually only 5-6 approved for final elections.
Parliament= Anyone can register, but just like above, candidates are filtered by "Security Council", and only those that aren't too reformist or against ethos of the establishment are approved.
Security Council = consisting of 6 clerical mullahs (chosen by the supreme leader) + 6 lawyers (chosen by head of parliament) --> the head of Security Council is 93 now. He's basically a walking meme, almost half asleep in all the meetings.
Assembly of Experts (all clerical mullahs)= Voted directly by people, but against candidates must be vet through "Security Council"
Assembly of "What's best for the regime:It's like a mixture of people in all the above sections, this is for emergency cases of what to do if the existence of regime is in danger. The head of it was ex-president and former best friend of Khomeini who suspiciously passed away exactly a year ago while swimming. I bet the leader misses him now, because that guy had guided the regime many times in times of crisis with ultimate nous and pragmatism.

So as you can see....there is an illusion of choice and elections....but it is what it is: An illusion


@Poster above with me the long username:
1- You need 50 posts to post in this section

2- Not absolutely everything in the world revolves around Israel. Many of them do, but not everything.

3- Nick Fuentes very likely couldn't spot Iran on the map until 2 years ago...He's about as much of a "Iran Expert" as Michael "I've never been to Russia and don't speak Russian" Weiss of CNN is of "Russia Expert". He should stick to American issues. I've seen many people who don't even speak/understand Farsi pass themselves out experts claiming people are chanting for economic reforms. Ye, I haven't seen any: "PRICE OF EGGS IS TOO DAMN HIGH", "LOWER THE TAXES BASTARDS" chants....but rather direct asking of the entire establishment to go, one of my favourite ones being: "The Mullah lives like a god, while ordinary people are beggers". One of the funniest chants' literal translation is roughly like: "Supreme Leader is a Cuck".

[El Chinito loco]

(01-05-2018 03:19 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:33 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:10 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

The US sucks at the liberation business. Have any of America's recent foreign policies that were ostensibly meant to liberate people actually liberated anyone?

It's never been about liberation but enriching certain members of the elite who have their hands in all pies. The MIC is a tired topic already but it's entirely relevant. War is very profitable. Plus there's every incentive for hawks in the military officer ranks to push for it too since it means increased budget spending and all sorts of kickbacks.

This is the only aspect of U.S. foreign policy that some people on the left have ever been correct about.

It's about supporting Israel's geopolitical position first, and money second.

I would say that these interests all intersect and coalesce at the very top since the people in charge of banking, arms dealing, and policy making are pretty Jewish. Not all Jews involved of course but they are a prime lobbying faction that exerts disproportionate amount of control over U.S. policy making as we all know. Actually i'll rephrase that..I don't believe Jews are even a lobbying faction anymore they are a direct ruling power faction in the U.S. government.

A prime example of this sort of cross collusion.. just look at how quick Wolfowitz went from the Bush administration to being the leading figurehead in the World Bank. There's plenty more examples of this type of stuff going on.

It never ceases to amaze me how thoroughly duped the American people are and how a tiny nation of 9 million uses a nation of 350 million as this big dumb Golem to smash its enemies.

[TigerMandingo]

(01-05-2018 09:53 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

It never ceases to amaze me how thoroughly duped the American people are and how a tiny nation of 9 million uses a nation of 350 million as this big dumb Golem to smash its enemies.

Whenever I talk politics with foreigners (non-Americans), it's quite surprising how quickly the subject of Jewish power comes up. I've lost count of how many times I heard "Jews control the US" from people. Eastern Europeans and Asians are especially clued in, it seems. Japanese girl I was seeing some time ago was one of the most anti-semitic people I've met

[El Chinito loco]

(01-05-2018 10:40 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 09:53 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

It never ceases to amaze me how thoroughly duped the American people are and how a tiny nation of 9 million uses a nation of 350 million as this big dumb Golem to smash its enemies.

Whenever I talk politics with foreigners (non-Americans), it's quite surprising how quickly the subject of Jewish power comes up. I've lost count of how many times I heard "Jews control the US" from people. Eastern Europeans and Asians are especially clued in, it seems. Japanese girl I was seeing some time ago was one of the most anti-semitic people I've met

The Chinese government even released a policy discussion outlining how the State of Israel is deeply entwined in U.S. politics and how Jews more or less set policy as well as run the economy.

It seems like every other nation knows this except Americans. Even pointing this out in the U.S. will get shouted down. That is true blind allegiance.

It's sad really.

[puckerman]

Israel's control of America is something that clearly has no precedent. America is the most powerful nation on Earth, and it takes its marching orders from a little pissant country that has 1/30 the population. The Roman Empire never gave into this kind of corruption. I don't know of any super power that did. It makes no sense and never will.

[PharaohRa]

(01-05-2018 11:28 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

Israel's control of America is something that clearly has no precedent. America is the most powerful nation on Earth, and it takes its marching orders from a little pissant country that has 1/30 the population. The Roman Empire never gave into this kind of corruption. I don't know of any super power that did. It makes no sense and never will.

You have to remember that the Jewish people are the ultimate survivors of humanity, being originally a desert people that had to rely on their wits, cunning, ingroup networking capability, resourcefulness, willingness to sacrifice and the ability to read between the lines to survive. In addition, choosing to favorably breed for higher IQ over the past 2000 years where their philosophy is intertwined with a book that rivals the Koran with respect to encouraging psychopathic behavior gives them the edge they need to succeed. Underestimate the Jew at your own risk, for what he lacks in numbers and strength he makes up for in relentlessness since their culture has a goal oriented approach to life.

[fiasco360]

Spoke with someone who has a family member in local level government in Iran. There are protests but it's nothing on the scale compared to 2009.

^ That's what he told me anyway.

[kamoz]

(01-05-2018 10:47 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

The Chinese government even released a policy discussion outlining how the State of Israel is deeply entwined in U.S. politics and how Jews more or less set policy as well as run the economy.

It seems like every other nation knows this except Americans. Even pointing this out in the U.S. will get shouted down. That is true blind allegiance.

It's sad really.

The only reason China is an up and coming superpower is because of Israel, or more correctly (((them))) - the international Jew. They will be taking marching orders from them soon enough. Once they wield enough power to be significant. No different than the British Empire before.

[Praetor Lupus]

[url=https://twitter.com/breitbartnews/status/950742437563072513][/url]

[911]

(01-09-2018 04:18 AM)kamoz Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:47 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

The Chinese government even released a policy discussion outlining how the State of Israel is deeply entwined in U.S. politics and how Jews more or less set policy as well as run the economy.

It seems like every other nation knows this except Americans. Even pointing this out in the U.S. will get shouted down. That is true blind allegiance.

It's sad really.

The only reason China is an up and coming superpower is because of Israel, or more correctly (((them))) - the international Jew. They will be taking marching orders from them soon enough. Once they wield enough power to be significant. No different than the British Empire before.

The average Chinese is uncucked and somewhat more impervious to the kind of mind control you have in the West. There aren't any Holocaust museums in the Mainland.

BTW that is definitely not the case in South Korea and Taiwan, where globalist-funded Scofield evangelicals have shaped the local mindset. South Korea especially is cucked, not so much by Judeo-marxist baizuo, but by Hagee-style right-wing evangelical talmudism:

Quote:

Yet, pop down to the local corner shop and along with a pot of instant rice or dried noodles, you can buy a copy of Stories from the Talmud. It is not rare, either, to come across book-vending machines stocked with classic works of Babylonian Judaism.

The Talmud is a bestseller in South Korea - even the government insists it is good for you, and has included it on the curriculum for primary school children.

Lee Chang-ro heads a literature research team at the Ministry for Education. He says: "The reasons why Korean children are taught Talmud are pretty obvious. Koreans and Jews both have a long history of oppression and surviving adversity with nothing but their own ingenuity to thank. There are no natural resources to speak of in Korea, so, like the Jews, all we can develop is our minds."

The fascination with Judaism does not end there. Media outlets regularly run newspapers columns on "Jewish education", weekly radio features, and television documentaries, all of them showing Jews in a glowing light.

But although average Koreans can boast that their bookshelves hold at least one or two copies of the Talmud, to think of Korea as a hotbed of latent Judaism would be wrong. The motivation is less to do with religion and more to do with aspiration.

https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features...sm-1.22961

[kamoz]

(01-09-2018 01:18 PM)911 Wrote:  

The average Chinese is uncucked and somewhat more impervious to the kind of mind control you have in the West. There aren't any Holocaust museums in the Mainland.

True, but the same could be said for the average American not all that long ago. What the Chinese have working for them now on the Leftist playing field is the 'Japanese Oppression' argument. However, if the Chinese are used as the strong arm to genocide Africa as some are predicting, you have your guilt trip right there.

Quote:

BTW that is definitely not the case in South Korea and Taiwan, where globalist-funded Scofield evangelicals have shaped the local mindset. South Korea especially is cucked, not so much by Judeo-marxist baizuo, but by Hagee-style right-wing evangelical talmudism:

Quote:

Yet, pop down to the local corner shop and along with a pot of instant rice or dried noodles, you can buy a copy of Stories from the Talmud. It is not rare, either, to come across book-vending machines stocked with classic works of Babylonian Judaism.

The Talmud is a bestseller in South Korea - even the government insists it is good for you, and has included it on the curriculum for primary school children.

Lee Chang-ro heads a literature research team at the Ministry for Education. He says: "The reasons why Korean children are taught Talmud are pretty obvious. Koreans and Jews both have a long history of oppression and surviving adversity with nothing but their own ingenuity to thank. There are no natural resources to speak of in Korea, so, like the Jews, all we can develop is our minds."

The fascination with Judaism does not end there. Media outlets regularly run newspapers columns on "Jewish education", weekly radio features, and television documentaries, all of them showing Jews in a glowing light.

But although average Koreans can boast that their bookshelves hold at least one or two copies of the Talmud, to think of Korea as a hotbed of latent Judaism would be wrong. The motivation is less to do with religion and more to do with aspiration.

https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features...sm-1.22961

Interesting.

[Samseau]

(01-01-2018 07:33 PM)911 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:47 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

No one even mentioned or cared about the nukes, we are talking about the quality of life for the people.

So you're Mother Theresa now? Stop hiding behind the facade of "humanitarian" rights. You are not concerned about the Iranian people, and that's fine.

Let's be real here: the moves Trump is pulling here are indistinguishable from whatever Hillary would have done. Perhaps a bit more constrained, I'll give you that. I'm not writing Trump off because I think he can accomplish a lot domestically, but the guy has been Bush 2.0 on the foreign policy front. I don't care how cool/alpha/4D chess he might seem.

We'd have been at war with Russia over Syria if Hillary got in. Which would have meant we'd have been at war with Iran in short order as well.

I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. Syria is doing better than ever since Trump go in and stopped funding ISIS.

ISIS didn't collapse because the US/NATO/gulf stopped funding them, the shipment of weapons hasn't abated last year, ISIS didn't lose because they run out weapons, they collapsed because the Russians and Syrians bombed the hell out of them. You can't control territory in a flat, arid land without air cover. Once the Russian air force started getting seriously involved, ISIS' days were numbered. Since the jihadis in Syria are universally hated by Christians and Muslims alike, they couldn't survive.

NATO was covering ISIS up to the latest battles in Raqqa, after which they helped evacuate thousands of their mercenary jihadis, instead of finishing them off right there. And this wasn't the first time that happened.

Wrong on every level. The bombing of ISIS by Russian was because the USA let them. Remember Hillary wanted a no-fly zone over Syria to shoot down Russian planes to save ISIS?

Trump saved us from WW3. We'd be at war with Syria, Iran, and Russia had the cunt gotten in.

Amazing at how short people's memories are. Anyone who claims Trump is no different than Hillary is in denial, or straight trolling.

[911]

(01-11-2018 07:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Wrong on every level. The bombing of ISIS by Russian was because the USA let them. Remember Hillary wanted a no-fly zone over Syria to shoot down Russian planes to save ISIS?

Trump saved us from WW3. We'd be at war with Syria, Iran, and Russia had the cunt gotten in.

Amazing at how short people's memories are. Anyone who claims Trump is no different than Hillary is in denial, or straight trolling.

You're missing the main point here, Sam. We never bombed ISIS. They had a fleet of hundreds of tanker trucks shipping stolen Syrian oil from the territories they held to Turkey, for years, while NATO was flying hundreds of air sorties. We were pretty much covering the jihadis' activities, and bombing the Syrian army. And this also took place under Trump. The USAF provided coordinated air cover to ISIS forces in Deir Zor last year, the jihadis were about to get overrun by the SAA when the USAF bombed their position for over an hour, killing nearly 100 Syrian soldiers, and completely repelling their attack.

This also happened last week, when USAF F22s intervened to stop Russain Sukhois from bombing a remaing ISIS outpost in eastern Syria:

https://sputniknews.com/military/2017120...rmy-syria/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/14/us-...-says.html

You're saying Hillary would have set up no-fly zones in Syria? Well guess what, there are de facto NATO no-fly zones in areas still held by jihadis (southern Syria and northern bank of the Euphrates). The incident above is a result of this.

I agree that Trump is better than what Hillary would have been on Syria, she would have ratcheted up the level of hostility towards Russian and Syrian forces fighting ISIS, but Trump's line in Syria is essentially the same policy now that we had under Obama. BHO could have used the first false flag chemical attack in Ghouta to go all out against Assad, but he didn't.

[Gmac]

(01-11-2018 10:37 PM)911 Wrote:  

You're missing the main point here, Sam. We never bombed ISIS.

ORLY?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/a...death-toll
"US 'mother of all bombs' killed 92 Isis militants, say Afghan officials"

[AManLikePutin]

Looks like things are picking up again. Many protests in the last week or 10 days including strikes.

The crash of Rial (almost 50% down since May) has devastated the economy and people's purchasing power and the sanctions haven't even officially hit yet. In addition, many cities are dealing with lack of drinking water, electricity, and just basic needs. Protests are kicking off again. Chants such as (literal translations):

"We're Iranians, Syria/Palestine/Lebanon/Iraq, have nothing to do with us"
"You're doomed the day we get armed"
"hardliner, or refomer...the story is over"
"As long as the dictator is in charge, our protests will continue"
"Unemployment, inflation...ruining life of the people"

A popular ex-Soccer player (Lef Back in 1998 World Cup) made an Instagram post absolutely ripping into regime and their 40 years of failure, how they've made Saudi bloody Arabia look good in comparison and how a wealthy country like Iran can be so poor and people not have the very basics of life under their leadership...and it was liked by lots of other public figures with big followings.

Trump's words of willingness to meet Iran officials have further divided the regime, and has caused internal struggle and fight between the elites and the governors. Despite Iranians saying publicly they won't meet Trump, the following interesting turns of events has been occurring behind the scenes:

Omani FM meets w/ FM Zarif in Tehran & Sec Pompeo in Washington.
Trump offered to meet w/Rouhani.
Iranian forces pulled back from Golan Heights.
Yemen's Houthis halt attacks on shipping lanes 4 two weeks.
Zarif arrived in Singapore. Pompeo to visit Singapore this week.
US Navy says it is "aware of the increase" in Iran naval operations in the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz and Gulf of Oman.

And now ex-president, Ahmadinejad has made a request of Trump.

[url=https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1024725009586184195][/url]