[questor70]

mjb finally got a well-earned ban-hammer.

I would like to take the honor of posting "the gif".

[Cane Toad]

(12-14-2017 06:53 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  

There is a large number of female 8s and higher that have bitched to me about the men they meet and their stories are hilarious. This conversation usually occurs after meeting and hanging out with my wife and I. More often than not immediately before or after the bang.

That sounds interesting. Care to elaborate?

[jselysianeagle]

(12-15-2017 07:35 PM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

I've never met in my life a guy who is an 8 or below, is not rich or successful way above average, has no big or practical social circles that even dated an 8+ girl.

I've never met an 8 guy which is an average+ joe who gamed his way into dating an 8. At least not in any western country.
Do any of you guys have an example?

I've met a few such guys, but they did it by being smart and gaming very specific demographics of women for whom they were seen as 8s or above.

Also, I've seen plenty of seriously cute girls with guys that were definitely not 8+ in looks, but they had other shit goin for them - strong social circle (#1 way to get and keep quality women), confidence, wealth/status etc.

[Cane Toad]

(12-15-2017 08:43 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

I really think that's where things are headed. Before we have full on sexbots we're going to have these digital matchmaker agents that will handle the most time-consuming fishing and icebreaking operations. When we do wind up getting involved it will be for actual dates and the women that are guaranteed to meet our minimum criteria.

It's fascinating stuff. And great post by the way.

My view is that the technology will just speed up the cycle time of the "transactional" phase of the interaction ie; how long it takes to get the girl to a point where she is in your bedroom, undressing and you know that you are going to get laid.

Once you have her naked and on her back...what happens next is entirely up to you, your emotions, her emotions. The technology goes out the window.

This is the line the AI can't cross. Even we don't know why we love or hate it. The irrationality, unpredictability, raw emotion...

The alternative is having the AI provide us with a McDonalds girlfriend, and yes I'd liked to upsize my order so I get a blowjob on first date.

[giama]

(12-16-2017 04:54 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 07:35 PM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

I've never met in my life a guy who is an 8 or below, is not rich or successful way above average, has no big or practical social circles that even dated an 8+ girl.

I've never met an 8 guy which is an average+ joe who gamed his way into dating an 8. At least not in any western country.
Do any of you guys have an example?

I've met a few such guys, but they did it by being smart and gaming very specific demographics of women for whom they were seen as 8s or above.

Also, I've seen plenty of seriously cute girls with guys that were definitely not 8+ in looks, but they had other shit goin for them - strong social circle (#1 way to get and keep quality women), confidence, wealth/status etc.

That just proves BruceAlmightlys point

[giama]

95% of 8s will try to go for the emerging athlete, soccer player, nfl, nba rapper, entertainer, club promoter with great network/circle.

the other 5% of 8s will be split amongst the normal population, so any normal guy whos a 6,7 will struggle to hold down 8s unless he is earning £200k in anglosphere, Every 1 in 20 guys will of course buck this trend and get a catch, of course there are exceptions to the rule but thats the general rule.

If you have extreme alpha energy it can help get better quality women, a female 8 (who gets hit on multiple times a day) will go for alpha male if she's not going for the guys i mentioned at the very top of the post. Example- Im not American so i cant say for sure but i imagine 50 cent would get attractive women due to his alpha energy, even if he wasn't famous and rich.

for me-
Anglosphere is for making money, and smashing 6.5s who co-operate FULLY. 7s-9s in anglosphere the supply and demand works against you greatly. A 7 will disregard you rather swiftly, there is a long list of eligible guys. If your able to get 7s and 8s who are submissive then good for you but im honest to say its not frequent enough for my liking.
Latin America, Caribbean etc is for smashing 8s and 9s with minimal fuss and expense

[PapayaTapper]

Statistically speaking this thread is 50% game denial-ism, 50% defeatism, 50% statistics pulled out of asses, 50% circle jerk and about 90 % autism and 99% mental masturbation

[Cane Toad]

@PapayaTapper

Nope, and here's why

Game denialism - nope, it's situational assessment and forming strategy based on a realistic understanding of what you are up against,
Defeatism - nope, there's no defeat here. It's about winning. To win you need realistic goals and you need to understand your environment,
Statistics pulled out of asses - hmmm, yes, maybe true
Circle jerk - wouldn't know anything about that sort of thing,
Autism - the facts are the facts, doesn't matter who tells the story....the facts remain unless proven otherwise,
Mental masturbation - sounds like "whack a nerd" but I don't give a f...I like nerd girls and they like me

Happy to debate you on something more than clichéd and derogatory words...let's see what you've got

[Cane Toad]

Waiting for that PapayaTapper dude to show up again

[realologist]

^^^^

What PT is saying is that there is too much analysis. Which is common from internet nerds, autistic people, etc.

Social interactions are an art not a science. If you don't handle the art aspect, the science doesn't matter. Look at it like this. Da Vinci used a technique for the Last
Supper using science and math to make it proportioned and the fore and background look great but it wouldn't have mattered if he painted a shitty finger painting. That's why the art, the action is so important. The art is social interactions with women.

How do you become good at social interactions? You have them. Especially with women. That will allow you to not bore every chick away with your pure and unwavering logic. These chicks are all emotion. That's the art. Once you have the art down, you can use the science to help but until then you are just wasting time over analyzing something instead of just doing it.

[RawGod]

(12-16-2017 06:35 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Statistically speaking this thread is 50% game denial-ism, 50% defeatism, 50% statistics pulled out of asses, 50% circle jerk and about 90 % autism and 99% mental masturbation

My brain nearly exploded from the autism in this thread.

[Cane Toad]

(12-17-2017 12:35 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:35 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Statistically speaking this thread is 50% game denial-ism, 50% defeatism, 50% statistics pulled out of asses, 50% circle jerk and about 90 % autism and 99% mental masturbation

My brain nearly exploded from the autism in this thread.

It's called microcephaly...it's not your fault.

[Cane Toad]

delete

[Cane Toad]

@ realologist

What PT is saying is that...he's got nothing.

However, what you are saying is good stuff...so respect

[StrikeBack]

This sort of autistic analysis doesn't help any man find a wife.

If you're sorting through the numbers to find bangs, analyse the numbers as much as you like.

If you're the neo-masculine leader of a country, and you want to worry about whether the men you are leading will have a chance to marry well, run those numbers to your heart's content.

If you are just a man looking for a wife (hopefully that's what you mean by "decent girls"), you only need to find one, not X% of Y. Stats are largely irrelevant.

[Cane Toad]

(12-17-2017 03:23 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

just a man

Yep, just a man

[Easy_C]

Shit. It's both easier and harder than people make it out to be. Harder because it requires a lot more effort and frame than people think (plenty of athletes who can't handle women's shit or get played by a gold digger) and easier because the women who are great for marriage tend to have exact same problem that we have: very few eligible members of the opposite sex fulfill their gender role well.

Take your stereotypical virgin church girl(yes, some do exist. I would know): exactly how many of those dudes that she has access to on a regular basis will both respect her wanting to not have sex right away AND be willing to flip her on her frontside, hold her down, and pound her so hard she can't walk the next morning one they are married?

THAT is you guy's in.

[Cane Toad]

(12-17-2017 09:33 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

because the women who are great for marriage tend to have exact same problem that we have: very few eligible members of the opposite sex fulfill their gender role well.

Wise words.

[Cane Toad]

And where is Mr PapayaTapper...the man who rains down words like game denialism, defeatism, statistics pulled out of asses, circle jerks (yikes), autism and....mental masturbation.

It's not like I want an apology. I just would like to see Mr PapayaTapper show up. Back up your words. And please leave the circle jerk thing out of it..I really don't want to know anything about that sort of thing.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

(12-17-2017 10:38 PM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

And where is Mr PapayaTapper...the man who rains down words like game denialism, defeatism, statistics pulled out of asses, circle jerks (yikes), autism and....mental masturbation.

It's not like I want an apology. I just would like to see Mr PapayaTapper show up. Back up your words. And please leave the circle jerk thing out of it..I really don't want to know anything about that sort of thing.

[Incubus]

I got to agree with much of P.T's post...there is nothing to explain.

It's up to the men to sort out women from experiences with them

Some guys "luck out" with the first chick they ever meet (usually highschool sweetheart) (meaning young love will find a way)....lots of guys fail because they though they had "girl options" and later found out that certain chicks like sex.....but other chicks wanted "commitment"

So "mental masterbation" happens...the price to pay for a decent girl ( the so called slut/wife/virgin) isn't worth it in many cases because "dream" and "commitment" can't be trusted to go together for jaded men.

As far as I know there isn't a married happily forever thead in RVF....until us members see a thread like that...it's all one big circle jerk.

[Suits]

(12-17-2017 10:38 PM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

And where is Mr PapayaTapper...the man who rains down words like game denialism, defeatism, statistics pulled out of asses, circle jerks (yikes), autism and....mental masturbation.

It's not like I want an apology. I just would like to see Mr PapayaTapper show up. Back up your words. And please leave the circle jerk thing out of it..I really don't want to know anything about that sort of thing.

[Cane Toad]

Ok, so can he speak for himself?

Where is he?

[RawGod]

PT has authorised me to inform the forum that he is safe, he's just a bit scared to take on such a badass as cane toad.

[Cane Toad]

are you negotiating on behalf of PT?