[xxx]

I've been recently studying how your look determines the type of girl you can keep for anything long term (min 3 months). Obviously game is what determines whether you get sex or not, but I find the quality and type of women you get to fall in love with you is directly correlated to how you look (not talking about wealth or power bought wives).

A good example of a man that has all three types of looks in one, is Marlon Brando, who slept with who knows how many top notch women including Marylin Monroe. DiCaprio is another, where they look dominant, handsome, and pretty all at the same time.

Think about it, if wealth, fame, power, and game is all it took to get top notch women, then Weinstein and company would be DiCaprio 2.0's instead of alleged rapists.

The DiCaprios can get almost any women they want, not because they're good looking, but because they can make them believe that they're their type of man. Any type of women can then fantasize about their future together and thus fall in love.

Pure dominant types get the sluts and women from poorer countries.

Balanced handsome guys attract the family oriented women.

Pretty/sentimental guys attract the controlling career woman or dominant wife.

While game will get you laid, it can't change who you are biologically as a man, and as such you're destined to end up with only certain types of girls, because it's women that choose to stay with you or not.

I'm thinking the most significant reason why game is a numbers game, and is in any way challenging, is because we can't identify which kind of woman will be into us.

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Have you seen the new Justice League? Look at Aqua Man. That dude is DEZZED! Likely, not natty. Women want to get run over by him despite the rapey joke he made which of course rattled feminists but, he is DEEZED so, it past. I don't know wha a DiCaprio is unless you meant Leo. A lot of women think he is hot, social status, rich, and well, while not DEEZED, women find him a challenge. He wont get married. I wouldn't be shocked if he is a MGTOW.

[questor70]

People forget that Dicaprio used to be a whitebread pretty-boy child actor. Does this scream alpha to you?



I remember when he was cast in Titanic. It seemed like a stretch for him, so clean-cut and boyish-looking, to be a romantic lead.

Since getting a boost out of that he picks roles that amplify that image, Great Gatsby, Howard Hughes, Jordan Belfort. They're all the high-roller playboy archetype. So whatever personality he may have in real life, by being an actor he can shape public perception in how he picks roles.

I suppose the only useful takeaway from that approach is to be your own publicity department and cultivate a fake online persona similar to a celebrity, and let's face it, that's what the THOTs do.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-12-2017 08:16 AM)xxx Wrote:  

Think about it, if wealth, fame, power, and game is all it took to get top notch women, then Weinstein and company would be DiCaprio 2.0's instead of alleged rapists.

Except that Weinstein and these other accused chodes have no game. That's the problem. The minute his power waned is when it all fell apart for him

[Vill@in]

(12-12-2017 08:16 AM)xxx Wrote:  

While game will get you laid, it can't change who you are biologically as a man, and as such you're destined to end up with only certain types of girls, because it's women that choose to stay with you or not.

This is backwards and you're wrong if you truly think this.

It is the man who decides to stay with the woman.

It makes me cringe when I hear guys say shit like: "Man, I really don't know why my wife puts up with me" or "I'm the luckiest man alive to be married to her" or "She is my better half".

Do you think she says the same shit about you to her girlfriends? She should be. You're the prize. Believe that.

[Player_1337]

(12-12-2017 10:31 AM)Vill@in Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 08:16 AM)xxx Wrote:  

While game will get you laid, it can't change who you are biologically as a man, and as such you're destined to end up with only certain types of girls, because it's women that choose to stay with you or not.

This is backwards and you're wrong if you truly think this.

It is the man who decides to stay with the woman.

It makes me cringe when I hear guys say shit like: "Man, I really don't know why my wife puts up with me" or "I'm the luckiest man alive to be married to her" or "She is my better half".

Do you think she says the same shit about you to her girlfriends? She should be. You're the prize. Believe that.

While I agree with Vill@in I also understand what the op is saying. Women often ghost even if your game is tight and the sex is great. Might just be a product of the Internet age and her constantly thinking something 'better' is out there (i.e. her seemingly limitless options via online dating).

[Kid Twist]

It's somewhere in between, no doubt. Also no doubt that you should model your thought process (or build it into your persona over time) after what Villain states.

[xxx]

(12-12-2017 10:31 AM)Vill@in Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 08:16 AM)xxx Wrote:  

While game will get you laid, it can't change who you are biologically as a man, and as such you're destined to end up with only certain types of girls, because it's women that choose to stay with you or not.

This is backwards and you're wrong if you truly think this.

It is the man who decides to stay with the woman.

It makes me cringe when I hear guys say shit like: "Man, I really don't know why my wife puts up with me" or "I'm the luckiest man alive to be married to her" or "She is my better half".

Do you think she says the same shit about you to her girlfriends? She should be. You're the prize. Believe that.

Majority of breakups are done by women.

If men really chose women, we would need no game. Game works to facilitate a woman choosing us over other men.

Yes you are the prize, but it's the woman who gets attached to you or not and there is little you can do about that. You can present the best version of yourself, but the decision the take the prize or not is hers.

So in a way you do choose initially based on her looks and attitude, but then it's all on her plate.

Why do you think the majority of the guys in the forum are single? Most of us are pump and dump artists.

[questor70]

Classic power-dynamic is women decide if they'll bang, but they try to first secure commitment. So it enters that tug-of-war stalemate until one side or the other wins.

Of course, women on the carousel don't want commitment.

[EndsExpect]

(12-12-2017 08:29 PM)xxx Wrote:  

Majority of breakups are done by women.
If men really chose women, we would need no game. Game works to facilitate a woman choosing us over other men.
Yes you are the prize, but it's the woman who gets attached to you or not and there is little you can do about that. You can present the best version of yourself, but the decision the take the prize or not is hers.
So in a way you do choose initially based on her looks and attitude, but then it's all on her plate.
Why do you think the majority of the guys in the forum are single? Most of us are pump and dump artists.

Yes, women pull the plug on relationships more frequently than men. However, the vast majority of dumped men are SUPER BETA. Since killing off some of my most beta tendencies I have not been dumped since. That's well over a decade without getting dumped.

In regards to women choosing men... It's kind of a yes and no situation. Look, even if you are a poor, short, busted fucker you can control to a degree whether a woman will fall for you or not.

They ran this experiment one time, where a man and a woman sat across from one another and stared into each others eyes and asked a series of increasingly deep personal questions. Afterwards they were interviewed regarding the experience. Women reported that the man they spoke with was someone they could "fall in love with" regardless of how attractive they rated him before the eye contact and conversation. Men did not report any appreciable difference. To my opinion if you follow certain behavior patterns you can make a woman feel love regardless of how attractive she rated you beforehand.

I mean let's be honest. Looking back in evolutionary history women didn't pop out babies for Justin Bieber type vaginas. They wanted the haggard looking warriors covered in scars who lost half their face in some battle. I mean do you think bitches chose Ghengis Khan or do you think Ghengis Khan chose bitches?

[Steelex]

(12-13-2017 01:04 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 08:29 PM)xxx Wrote:  

Majority of breakups are done by women.
If men really chose women, we would need no game. Game works to facilitate a woman choosing us over other men.
Yes you are the prize, but it's the woman who gets attached to you or not and there is little you can do about that. You can present the best version of yourself, but the decision the take the prize or not is hers.
So in a way you do choose initially based on her looks and attitude, but then it's all on her plate.
Why do you think the majority of the guys in the forum are single? Most of us are pump and dump artists.

Yes, women pull the plug on relationships more frequently than men. However, the vast majority of dumped men are SUPER BETA. Since killing off some of my most beta tendencies I have not been dumped since. That's well over a decade without getting dumped.

In regards to women choosing men... It's kind of a yes and no situation. Look, even if you are a poor, short, busted fucker you can control to a degree whether a woman will fall for you or not.

They ran this experiment one time, where a man and a woman sat across from one another and stared into each others eyes and asked a series of increasingly deep personal questions. Afterwards they were interviewed regarding the experience. Women reported that the man they spoke with was someone they could "fall in love with" regardless of how attractive they rated him before the eye contact and conversation. Men did not report any appreciable difference. To my opinion if you follow certain behavior patterns you can make a woman feel love regardless of how attractive she rated you beforehand.

I mean let's be honest. Looking back in evolutionary history women didn't pop out babies for Justin Bieber type vaginas. They wanted the haggard looking warriors covered in scars who lost half their face in some battle. I mean do you think bitches chose Ghengis Khan or do you think Ghengis Khan chose bitches?

There are guys on here who will never be able to get out of the scarcity mindset. To them, women are just too valuable.

I don't care how fine a woman is, it doesn't take long before I see how much of a pain she is, how little we have in common, how much she talks about her stupid fucking co workers, ect. I see the negative pretty quick, because I've seen it before.

If Ghengis Khan ever chose a bitch, it was on a temporary basis.

[xxx]

(12-13-2017 01:04 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 08:29 PM)xxx Wrote:  

Majority of breakups are done by women.
If men really chose women, we would need no game. Game works to facilitate a woman choosing us over other men.
Yes you are the prize, but it's the woman who gets attached to you or not and there is little you can do about that. You can present the best version of yourself, but the decision the take the prize or not is hers.
So in a way you do choose initially based on her looks and attitude, but then it's all on her plate.
Why do you think the majority of the guys in the forum are single? Most of us are pump and dump artists.

Yes, women pull the plug on relationships more frequently than men. However, the vast majority of dumped men are SUPER BETA. Since killing off some of my most beta tendencies I have not been dumped since. That's well over a decade without getting dumped.

In regards to women choosing men... It's kind of a yes and no situation. Look, even if you are a poor, short, busted fucker you can control to a degree whether a woman will fall for you or not.

They ran this experiment one time, where a man and a woman sat across from one another and stared into each others eyes and asked a series of increasingly deep personal questions. Afterwards they were interviewed regarding the experience. Women reported that the man they spoke with was someone they could "fall in love with" regardless of how attractive they rated him before the eye contact and conversation. Men did not report any appreciable difference. To my opinion if you follow certain behavior patterns you can make a woman feel love regardless of how attractive she rated you beforehand.

I mean let's be honest. Looking back in evolutionary history women didn't pop out babies for Justin Bieber type vaginas. They wanted the haggard looking warriors covered in scars who lost half their face in some battle. I mean do you think bitches chose Ghengis Khan or do you think Ghengis Khan chose bitches?

Many Western women today don't want a purely dominant man, because our society is so safe that they don't feel the need for it. They'd rather have a romantic lover that brings them excitement.

Especially career women (half of young Western women today) that have an inflated view of their strength; hence why they choose the pretty boy.

It's a different story in poorer countries. I don't think the reason you guys do good in Ukraine has to do with the culture, but rather the economic conditions of the country.

@Steelex Who has a scarcity mindset? It's best to have a realistic view of how things are. Is getting ONS and fuck buddies easy? To me and to a lot of us, very. Is finding an innocent, pure, beautiful, loving woman easy? Fuck no. Even DiCaprio can't find her.

[torridon747]

There's a story about Ghengis Khan, I'm too tipsy to find citation. But basically it goes like this

Khan had many concubines and a few wives. One day he had found out that one of his wives had been sleeping with one of his lieutenants. Word spread, his inner circle and everyone who knew of the scandal thought for sure he would viciously murder everyone involved as ol' Ghengis was known for his brutality. He called a meeting; his advisers, council and a limited number of the public were allowed to attend. He spoke to the offenders quickly and instead of punishing his lieutenant and his wife he sent them on their way with a fair sum of trade/money. Then he gave his reasoning - if he had chosen a wife that was so disloyal and a lieutenants so scheming then he was at fault for his reasoning and wished them a happy life together in exile and was happy to see them go.

[xxx]

^^
She cheated on the Lieutenant next.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-13-2017 02:20 AM)xxx Wrote:  

^^
She cheated on the Lieutenant next.

Cause he had no game else he wouldn't have to have been fucking and in relationship with another man's wife... a known cheater

[EndsExpect]

(12-13-2017 01:43 AM)xxx Wrote:  

Many Western women today don't want a purely dominant man, because our society is so safe that they don't feel the need for it. They'd rather have a romantic lover that brings them excitement.
Especially career women (half of young Western women today) that have an inflated view of their strength; hence why they choose the pretty boy.
It's a different story in poorer countries. I don't think the reason you guys do good in Ukraine has to do with the culture, but rather the economic conditions of the country.
@Steelex Who has a scarcity mindset? It's best to have a realistic view of how things are. Is getting ONS and fuck buddies easy? To me and to a lot of us, very. Is finding an innocent, pure, beautiful, loving woman easy? Fuck no. Even DiCaprio can't find her.

Don't get confused with what women want. Feminism has not changed what western women desire in a man. It is wealth and luxury that have created this change. Big Pappa Government pays for everything, leaving women to ignore the salaryman type guys and focus on men higher up the food chain. Basically you can't buy western women anymore you have to possess the character traits that they want.

For example, western women want a man that is desired by other women, but who only has eyes for her. A strong part of the fantasy behind 50 Shades of Grey is that this rich handsome prince archetype struggles with women because they can't handle his kinky side. In steps a woman that is willing. Thus the fantasy is that he will only be sexually interested in her because he knows other women won't take his shit.

The overall point of this thread is that yes, women are super picky about a mans looks ON TINDER. In person it doesn't work like that. I've done the relationship thing quite a bit in my time. I had women who thought I was ugly as shit completely owned by me in a relationship. I'm going on 7 years with one right now. She was a pure career woman who is at the moment extremely happy as a stay at home mom.

This is kind of a controversial statement, but there are things about a woman that you cannot change like core personality traits. However, there are things that absolutely can change and the woman will worship you for making it happen. My friend is an avid rock climber and started dating this chubby woman... maybe a 5. He is a very type A guy and forced her onto his diet, forced her into rock climbing. 1 year later she is a solid 8 with probably the largest natural rack of any woman I know. I also know the most hardline feminist I attended college with is now Trump supporter with 4 kids. She married a prosecuting attorney, who is really alpha. My point is that you can and SHOULD control your woman to a degree. I know they hate that word, but the vast majority of them deep down want to submit to a quality man.

(12-13-2017 01:50 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  

There's a story about Ghengis Khan, I'm too tipsy to find citation. But basically it goes like this
Khan had many concubines and a few wives. One day he had found out that one of his wives had been sleeping with one of his lieutenants. Word spread, his inner circle and everyone who knew of the scandal thought for sure he would viciously murder everyone involved as ol' Ghengis was known for his brutality. He called a meeting; his advisers, council and a limited number of the public were allowed to attend. He spoke to the offenders quickly and instead of punishing his lieutenant and his wife he sent them on their way with a fair sum of trade/money. Then he gave his reasoning - if he had chosen a wife that was so disloyal and a lieutenants so scheming then he was at fault for his reasoning and wished them a happy life together in exile and was happy to see them go.

Here is the reason I believe that story. If you read about Ghengis and how he thought and how he ruled this fits within his mindset. His personal guard were called "Raging Torrents", and he gave all of them a one time only get out of jail free card, where he would forgive 1 single offense. He was very much a Bro's before Ho's type of guy and he had A LOT of concubines.

The reason I bring up Ghengis is because this guy had so much pussy in his day that even as we speak 1 to 2% of the population of China is a direct descendant... they have 1.4 billion people... do the math.

[questor70]

(12-13-2017 01:43 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

My friend is an avid rock climber and started dating this chubby woman... maybe a 5. He is a very type A guy and forced her onto his diet, forced her into rock climbing. 1 year later she is a solid 8 with probably the largest natural rack of any woman I know.

Nice to know that fixer-upper strategy can work. It's hard to broach the topic, however, as it's one of those "you look fat in that dress" things. They have to initiate themselves.

[jayyrod1]

Yes, game can get you laid. Yes, it is a numbers game.Yes, game will keep her around long term. Not on it's own but yes, you still need game even after three months.

No, how you look does not determine what kind of girls you get. Not solely, no.
No, we are not 'destined' to have a certain type of girl fall in love with us: we have game.Our destiny (s) with women is whatever we choose it to be because of game.

Yes. game does not change us biologically, but mentally? it does change us. For better or worse is up to you. With that change in mentality we come to realize that while we can not change our god given looks, we CAN change HOW we look. From dress to fitness. From hair styles to eye colour. balding men can get a full head of hair and short men can even get taller with today's technologies.

I like where your head is at. In fact, I used to have similar thoughts about male looks and relationships/getting laid. I assume your relatively new to game and that's ok. we all were at one point. Just keep thinking, keep gaming, and keep asking questions. Eventually you will come to learn that looks, especially male looks*, do notmatter as much as men think they do. Change what you can, accept that which you can not. You know about game now and have no excuse not to improve yourself In a manner that will attract the type of women that YOU want to keep around.

*When I say 'looks,' I'm talking about any physical characteristic thay you can NOT change. Well, with today's technology I should say... what you can not change, without throwing money at it.