For starters, it seems to me that most bars have three or four areas where you will find women and how I see them in terms of approaching. Does this match your experiences?
1. Women sitting or standing at or near the bar. IMO, these women tend to be the most open to be gamed. They are often looking for interaction and are standing making it more comfortable when approaching.
2. Women sitting at tables. These can be communal tables, patios or regular square tables. I find these women to be less open to be approached than 1. because they have effectively removed themselves from the action a bit and there is the challenge of them sitting and you standing. I think the exception to this rule is where you have the tables with the high chairs where they are closer to eye level and normally these tables are places very close to the bar too.
3. Women dancing or chatting in the dance area. The same goes too if they are all chatting together in a big group on the sides. I find these to be the least open to approach even when they are giving IOIs. There still seems to be a big sisterhood mindset where conversations just seem harder to propel forward for me. This group will also often have their phones in their hands where they are easily distracted by the next ping. You can always try to approach these girls when they break away to the restroom or the bar but it still seems more often than no the "I got to get back to my friends" mentality is strong.
4. Women standing in line outside the bathroom. If the bar has the right setup where it would be normal for you to be hanging out by this area, I find these women tend to be very open to a conversation.
Also, I was listening to Roosh's podcast titled Warning Signs A Girl Isn't Worth Your Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVF_T_E1rk. I was curious what things do you look for when considering approaching a woman in a bar and also what red flags do you look for after you approach the woman when deciding when you should bail on the conversation?
Some of the things that jumped out to me from his podcast were:
1. Any strong opinions about feminism or anti men. Even when I weather the storm on these, it never seems to be worth the trouble.
2. Cellphone in hand or even on table. These girls seem to be the worst at trying to have a conversation with. When talking they will glance back at their phone periodically rather than maintaining eye contact.
Others that I have noticed that are not good signs:
1. The woman turns her back to you at the bar for an extended period of time. This can be misleading sometimes but I think more often than not she is creating a physical barrier from you. I think this is an unnatural thing not to periodically at least check around you so to maintain a closed position would suggest to me she is not open to your approach.
2. She is not open to the smallest of suggestion like asking her to stand up to see how tall she is.
3. She continues to move the conversation back to what I will call platonic conversation topics rather than more sexualized, romantic conversation.
4. She unloads emotional baggage and holds onto it in the conversation. She doesn't let it go.
5. If she is overly mouthy and loudmouthed early on, this can be problematic but not always. This is also the case if it is a member of their group because they will interrupt your stories and flow when they get bored thinking they are funny and so on.
1. Women sitting or standing at or near the bar. IMO, these women tend to be the most open to be gamed. They are often looking for interaction and are standing making it more comfortable when approaching.
2. Women sitting at tables. These can be communal tables, patios or regular square tables. I find these women to be less open to be approached than 1. because they have effectively removed themselves from the action a bit and there is the challenge of them sitting and you standing. I think the exception to this rule is where you have the tables with the high chairs where they are closer to eye level and normally these tables are places very close to the bar too.
3. Women dancing or chatting in the dance area. The same goes too if they are all chatting together in a big group on the sides. I find these to be the least open to approach even when they are giving IOIs. There still seems to be a big sisterhood mindset where conversations just seem harder to propel forward for me. This group will also often have their phones in their hands where they are easily distracted by the next ping. You can always try to approach these girls when they break away to the restroom or the bar but it still seems more often than no the "I got to get back to my friends" mentality is strong.
4. Women standing in line outside the bathroom. If the bar has the right setup where it would be normal for you to be hanging out by this area, I find these women tend to be very open to a conversation.
Also, I was listening to Roosh's podcast titled Warning Signs A Girl Isn't Worth Your Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVF_T_E1rk. I was curious what things do you look for when considering approaching a woman in a bar and also what red flags do you look for after you approach the woman when deciding when you should bail on the conversation?
Some of the things that jumped out to me from his podcast were:
1. Any strong opinions about feminism or anti men. Even when I weather the storm on these, it never seems to be worth the trouble.
2. Cellphone in hand or even on table. These girls seem to be the worst at trying to have a conversation with. When talking they will glance back at their phone periodically rather than maintaining eye contact.
Others that I have noticed that are not good signs:
1. The woman turns her back to you at the bar for an extended period of time. This can be misleading sometimes but I think more often than not she is creating a physical barrier from you. I think this is an unnatural thing not to periodically at least check around you so to maintain a closed position would suggest to me she is not open to your approach.
2. She is not open to the smallest of suggestion like asking her to stand up to see how tall she is.
3. She continues to move the conversation back to what I will call platonic conversation topics rather than more sexualized, romantic conversation.
4. She unloads emotional baggage and holds onto it in the conversation. She doesn't let it go.
5. If she is overly mouthy and loudmouthed early on, this can be problematic but not always. This is also the case if it is a member of their group because they will interrupt your stories and flow when they get bored thinking they are funny and so on.
