[Paracelsus]

(12-01-2017 11:01 PM)stugatz Wrote:  

I'm confused about Anglican vs. Episcopalian - as far as I know, the latter term is both an alternate term for Anglican, AND it also refers to a sub-church that came from the Anglicans.

That said, there are certainly conservative Anglican churches left. Episcopalians are the ones in the US ordaining tranny & dyke bishops and blessing abortion clinics.

I believe Anglicans were, at one point, just as badass as any other conservative denomination. Take this hymn, for example...

Jerusalem is not technically a hymn. It is not a prayer to God. And it was written not by any cleric of the Anglican Church but by William Blake, who often gets shanghaied into the Christianity as some sort of orthodox believer but who was in life fiercely against organised religion of all kinds, and particularly against the Anglican Church. That "hymn" was written by the same guy who said Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion., and As the catterpillar [sic] chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.

So far as anyone can work out William Blake's religion, he seems to have regarded God as utterly and incomprehensibly transcendantalist, and religion as trying to put a harness on a wild horse. That in mind, I often wonder whether he was making some other arcane point with that poem, written in a book about Milton, and prefaced the poem as follows:

The Stolen and Perverted Writings of Homer & Ovid: of Plato & Cicero, which all Men ought to contemn:

And then follows the poem. Read it carefully.

And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon Englands[b] mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.

This is war on urban society he is talking about. The Dark Satanic Mills he is talking about are the engines of industry, the mills of the industrial revolution where so many children suffered and died.

[Conscious Pirate]

(12-02-2017 03:02 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 01:47 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  

Buggery and upper class Brits go together like tea and crumpets, so really this is a very traditionalist statement from Father No-Theology.

Leave it to the Brits to give ass-fucking an artsy name as if it's skilled endeavor one takes classes for at the Learning Annex like photography, pottery, archery, tapestry, etc.....

"Introduction to Buggery" Mondays and Thursdays at 6pm

It's the prerequisite for Faggotry. Wednesdays at 7-11.

[N°6]

(12-01-2017 07:14 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Surely the Bible contains some mechanism empowering the earthly followers of Christ to deal with blasphemers and subverters of God's house.

If so, what?

Exorcism (as mentioned by others).

As casual glance of the New Testament which records Jesus' life shows that exorcism was a massive part of his life.

Its relevance to Churchianity?

None.
Qui bono ?

[N°6]

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[The Church is] facing a crisis before [Christians] even think about reaching men who aren’t yet believers. The decline is pretty terminal. In 30 years time there could be zero men left in church communities in the UK.

http://www.cvm.org.uk/why-mens-ministry

[Foolsgo1d]

(12-02-2017 03:02 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 01:47 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  

Buggery and upper class Brits go together like tea and crumpets, so really this is a very traditionalist statement from Father No-Theology.

Leave it to the Brits to give ass-fucking an artsy name as if it's skilled endeavor one takes classes for at the Learning Annex like photography, pottery, archery, tapestry, etc.....

"Introduction to Buggery" Mondays and Thursdays at 6pm

Don't forget boy lovers and rent boys.

[Thomas Jackson]

Embarrassing. It is pretty sad the Episcopal church was originally the church of the American WASP elite, now it is a pathetic virtue signaling group. I live near one and noticed they have 2 diversity signs out front in multiple languages.

[Mercenary]

Corinthians 6:9-10

9 Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15

13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Therein lies the problem with Christianity as a whole.

"...will not inherit God’s Kingdom."



Meanwhile literal innocent children are perverted and sacrificed to these abominations generation over generation, being used like condoms and twisted into the next generation of abusers. We should have seen the inherent rot when the Catholic church responded to the paedophiles among them being revealed, not with purges of righteous fury but with muffled shifting of the abusers and a general closing of the ranks.

Future iterations have to have a focus on such scripture that commands the commoners to purge the heretics from their ranks.

[Samseau]

(12-01-2017 07:14 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Surely the Bible contains some mechanism empowering the earthly followers of Christ to deal with blasphemers and subverters of God's house.

If so, what?

Titus 3

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9But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, arguments, and quarrels about the Law, because these things are pointless and worthless. 10Reject a divisive man after a first and second admonition, 11knowing that such a man is corrupt and sinful; he is self-condemned.

Step #1: Reject heretics.

2 Peter 2:

Quote:

1Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies that even deny the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of the truth will be defamed. 3In their greed, these false teachers will exploit you with tales they have concocted. The longstanding verdict against them remains in force, and their destruction does not sleep.

4For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell, delivering them in chains to be held in gloomy darknessa until their judgment; 5if He did not spare the ancient world when He brought the flood on its ungodly people, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, among the eight; 6if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction,b reducing them to ashes as an example of what is coming on the ungodly;c 7and if He rescued Lot, a righteous man distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if all this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

10Such punishment is specially reserved for those who indulge the corrupt desires of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and self-willed, these men are unafraid to slander angelic majesties. 11Yet not even angels, though greater in strength and power, dare to bring such slanderous charges against them before the Lord.

12These men are like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be captured and destroyed. They blaspheme in matters they do not understand, and like such creatures, they too will be destroyed. 13The harm they will suffer is the wages of their wickedness.

They consider it a pleasure to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their deception as they feast with you. 14Their eyes are full of adultery; their desire for sin is never satisfied; they seduce the unstable. They are accursed children with hearts trained in greed.

15They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bosor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16But he was rebuked for his transgression by a donkey, otherwise without speech, that spoke with a man’s voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18With lofty but empty words, they appeal to the sensual passions of the flesh and entice the ones who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves to corruption. For a man is a slave to whatever has overcome him.

20If indeed they have escaped the corruption of the world through their knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,d only to be entangled and overcome by it again, their final condition is worse than it was at first. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and turned away from the holy commandment passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”e and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.”

Galatations 1:

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6I am astonished how quickly you are deserting the One who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is not even a gospel. Evidently some people are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ.

8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a divine curse! 9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you embraced, let him be under a divine curse!

Step #2: Stand back, let God curse them, and let them destroy themselves.

No need to do the dirty work, AIDS is doing it for us on these faggot churches anyways. Just warn others to stay away from these cursed institutions and focus on building our own houses of God.

[El Padrone]

I never thought Sam was so versed in scripture :-) . After the bad feelz caused by the MLK thread, now I have at least one solid common ground to agree with you. Hehe.

[SlickyBoy]

(12-02-2017 03:34 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

and As the catterpillar [sic] chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.

Ah, I see it now - that priest thought it was BOYS, not JOYS.

[WalterBlack]

(12-01-2017 08:30 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 07:02 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

If only Henry the 8th was still around!
This fags head would have been chopped of before
he could even say same-sex marriage.

Um, Henry VIII was the original leftie degenerate. The very reason he founded the Anglican Church was because the Catholic Pope refused to let him divorce Catherine of Aragon, his wife, and thereby free himself to bang Anne Boleyn. Henry basically spat on the very church he'd been pronounced a defender of. This cleric is acting in precisely the spirit of the Anglican Church's origins.

Left vs Right didn't exist back then and apart from breaking with the Catholic Church Henry behaved just like any other monarch. It was normal for Kings to be hypocrites when it came to religion and to have mistresses and bastard kids on the side.

The Anglican church was never "SJW", that's a modern development - they never gave a fuck about Diversity and LGBT crap until very recently. There's a big schism within the church between more traditional African churches and left wing SJW churches. Africans have no time for faggotry - this article is from August 2017:

Archbishop of Uganda to boycott global meeting over gay marriage

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Stanley Ntagali, the Archbishop of Uganda, has disclosed that he will not attend the next meeting of Anglican leaders citing the gradual acceptance of same-sex marriage by the church.

The 62-year-old who also doubles as Bishop of the Ugandan capital, Kampala, in an interview with the BBC said he was not prepared to engage with people who took ‘an unbiblical view of marriage.’

He made the comments after joining the global leader of the church, Justin Welby – Archbishop of Canterbury – to visit refugee camps in the country’s north. Welby is on an African tour that saw him visit Sudan where he declared the 39th province of the church in Khartoum.

The next meeting of the church’s global leadership is slated for October this year in England but Ntagali says he will not take part – a decision supported fully by senior clergy of the local church.

The Archbishop made an early exit from the last leaders meeting held in January 2016, citing the same issue as reason for his action. Two of the church’s main branches have elected to support same sex marriage in the recent past – the Scottish and Canadian Episcopal Churches.

Ugandan laws and the crackdown on same-sex relationships

Last year alone, Ugandan security forces cracked down on gay rights activists. First in August as police raided a night club where a gay pride event was underway and arrested at least 15 people, accusing them of staging an illegal gathering and promoting homosexuality.

A month later, a planned gay parade was stopped by police. Authorities argued that such gatherings were illegal under Uganda’s penal code.

The armed policemen blocked over 100 LGBT people from staging the annual event at two separate locations outside the capital, Kampala. Patrons were ordered into the vehicles and driven to Kampala for questioning. They were later set free without any charges.

In 2009, a Ugandan lawmaker introduced a bill that prescribed the death penalty for some homosexual acts, saying he wanted to protect Ugandan children.

The proposed bill prompted international condemnation. A less severe version of the bill passed by lawmakers was rejected by a Ugandan court as unconstitutional.

[SlickyBoy]

There were Anglican churches in the US that left and joined the Catholic church, which even allowed their married clergy to stay married. There are currently over 200 converted priests who fit this description (though that number may be the world wide total).

[Enoch]

Can't the queen excommunicate him? Royal Line is cucked if she does, cucked if she doesn't.