[Avel]

(11-14-2017 04:47 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

But why not just do it for real and live in Budapest or another continental European city.

Constitution, you seem a smart guy. Why then compare London to Budapest? There is no comparison in terms of money making. Salaries in London can be 10 times higher than in Budapest and the opportunities are endless in London. People go to London for opportunity. Of course women are a dark chapter, but when I see people comparing London to Eastern Europe it just sounds silly. Women have become a commodity, so they are always hard in wealthy places.

99% of the posters here are not able to make western money is Eastern Europe, so going to Budapest to live on an Eastern European salary and chase easy pussy (which is not easy at all) sounds absurd.

[Constitution45]

From my understanding this thread is geared towards women and game rather than making money.

London will always beat most cities when it comes to establishing a career. But when you factor in living costs, quality of life and the general package. You'd probably be better trying to find a lesser paid job in a better city than staying here. Especially if you are the type of person that uses this forum.

[Avel]

(11-14-2017 07:32 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

From my understanding this thread is geared towards women and game rather than making money.

Agreed. However, if you try to compare London, Paris, New York or Tokyo to any minor city, especially to an EE capital, ignoring the 'making money' factor, the comparison fails automatically.

[ElJefe1]

(11-13-2017 02:12 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 02:03 PM)Jimbo Wrote:  

No offense taken, but I do feel a reply is in order. I'm about to go the gym, so it won't be as thorough as I would like, but I'll try.

The thing about cities like London, NYC, and other western metropolises is that the supporters of such cities will usually say something like "yes, but..." in regard to criticism of those cities. For example, I went to NYC last year, and found the quality of daygame there to be similar to that of London - not good when compared to cities in EE, East Asia, etc. However, a daygamer I met and befriended during my time there went to similar lengths to defend the city. He said things like "oh but you didn't come when NYU is in session," "it's MLK weekend now so the girls aren't out", etc.

The reason these cities are not good for daygame are because they depend on dubious pre-conditions like this. It doesn't matter what time of year you go, it's always "something" - you came during a holiday, the girls are taking exams, the city has been experiencing a hot streak, etc.

On the other hand, cities like Kiev, Belgrade, Minsk don't require "yes, but..." caveats. That's why they're the gold standard. My beef is when guys who don't have a lot of experience daygaming outside western countries make it sound like London, NYC or wherever is a daygame mecca. They're not, and I feel like the guys who have been in this game for awhile across different continents need to start speaking up to counter that faulty assumption.

New York is a daygame mecca... And yes the young sloots are running rampant in Lower Manhattan when NYU is in session, which is the case about 9 months out of the year.

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I have no doubt people can get laid in London - but that's not the point. The point is that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. You can go to many other cities with more attractive women where your approach to lay ratios will be significantly improved. Bottom line up front is that London is a place you go to daygame when you have no better options.

I've been to Mexico. Part of why it is easier to get laid in 3rd world, or even second world locations(EE, or Mexico for instance), the girl is hoping for a shot at a better life in the USA if you take her with you at some point, so she is more willing to have sex with you right away, she sees you as a potential winning lottery ticket for a green card.

The talent in NYC is high. I'll be in London in a couple of days and will see what it is like there. London is a huge city though. much bigger than nyc

I don't agree with a shot at a better life statement, the majority of these girls in no way want to leave home, they just want some different "exotic" dick...

[ElJefe1]

(11-14-2017 05:20 AM)Avel Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:47 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

But why not just do it for real and live in Budapest or another continental European city.

Constitution, you seem a smart guy. Why then compare London to Budapest? There is no comparison in terms of money making. Salaries in London can be 10 times higher than in Budapest and the opportunities are endless in London. People go to London for opportunity. Of course women are a dark chapter, but when I see people comparing London to Eastern Europe it just sounds silly. Women have become a commodity, so they are always hard in wealthy places.

99% of the posters here are not able to make western money is Eastern Europe, so going to Budapest to live on an Eastern European salary and chase easy pussy (which is not easy at all) sounds absurd.

The quality of life in a BP as compared to London isn't even close, you don't have to make a lot of $$$ to live a good life in BP. In Mondon you have to make a shitload and not everyone gets that opportunity.

[Pointer]

If you're in your 20s and like to live centrally, pick-up girls and spend a lot of time in bars, restaurants, cafes Budapest is a no-brainer. If you're a 40 year old workaholic London is probably a better choice. Generally the West if no walk in the park and you'd be surprised to find out that there are more work opportunities for young people in Eastern Europe as a lot of companies are outsourcing the jobs from places like UK, France or Germany.

[Avel]

(11-14-2017 04:03 PM)Pointer Wrote:  

If you're in your 20s and like to live centrally, pick-up girls and spend a lot of time in bars, restaurants, cafes Budapest is a no-brainer. If you're a 40 year old workaholic London is probably a better choice. Generally the West if no walk in the park and you'd be surprised to find out that there are more work opportunities for young people in Eastern Europe as a lot of companies are outsourcing the jobs from places like UK, France or Germany.

I'm 40 and lived 10 years in London. My experience says that the whole EE concept is for 20 year old guys that think mostly with their dick and have time to waste.
I remember in my 20s how obsessed I was with Russian women. Now women are women and pussy is pussy. Don't mean that I bang monsters of course.
Now that I understand better the culture of each place, EE is a cheap place, but cheap is what you get from every aspect.

[Constitution45]

Personally speaking as an Englishman the political situation is starting to feel unstable in the U.K. We had four/five attacks in the last year; and it is unsettling to see people being too afraid to talk about the situation. People just shrug and keep their head down, until the next one happens.

The media lamented this as being stoicism, but it is far from it, it is simple apathy and fear. Even though they are trying to portray the current modern British generation as being stoic warriors of some kind.

Growing up in London, I was subjected to being robbed numerous times and having to see young girls my age being pimped out to gangs . Who in an otherwise normal society, would probably have been dating prospects and potential wholesome mothers in the future.

Worst of all is that Britain has changed dramatically over the last couple of generations. Yet for a country that is obsessed with sociology and critiquing every aspect of its existence. We simply don't discuss it.

As for now, I am working hard and keeping my head down. Ultimately in a couple of years down the line while I am still young, I would like to move back to somewhere like the Czech republic or Poland, potentially East Asia.

[seaofp]

"Dating guru Richard La Ruina appeared on the ITV morning show to tell English women that they were too fat and entitled to be considered relationship worthy"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/49...g-britain/

[worldtraveler3]

Yes. Really goes to show that the overseas solution is probably the best as even one of the best Pua in UK ( with his connections and looks) even advocate going overseas. You can then imagine the quality of dating scene in the UK. British men have been going to Thailand for years looking for wives, how can Piers Morgan not know that? Maybe during his generation 30 years ago the women were alright but not the women nowadays.

That woman on his left is just horrible. What has it got to do with confidence and cheat’s way? It’s not about confidence to get British women, it’s about what the guys want and they simply find better overseas. Her logic is completely wrong.

[Vaun]

where in the city do you run into a lot of those english rose types; tall, blonde, blue eyes, preppy. Even the brunettes are sharp.

[IntrovertSigma]

Thanks for this. I've been living in London for a number of years and I'm recently single. For some reason I don't see as many attractive women out and about anymore. Maybe it's just me and my tastes or standards have changed.

[Rossi]

My friend wants to come to London for 2 weeks and he wants to AirBnB there. Is Fulham good area to rent something out?

[Constitution45]

Yes Fulham is good, pretty safe and you are not far from the centre.

[GoodfellaGood]

Solid datasheet with some interesting recommendations that I am keen to try. I have always found the best quality around Oxford St (vs Southbank, Shoreditch, Covent Garden etc) but I am definitely keen to check out the uni areas at some point once the weather thaws out a bit.

[NapoleonDynamighty]

Solid Datasheet this. Most other London sheets been by ballers taking in more than 100k a year paying private members clubs, hanging with the elites saying London is a paradise and can be cracked. One thing about England is as conformist or condescending at times the upper class can get they are great company and easy to bed. I had tremendous fun living in Notting Hill and gaming in Kensington but night game in Berkley street is a thing of beauty and absolute charm.

If you stand outside Nobu and pick up on the birds coming out for a fag you are in for a treat especially if you can pull off the well spoken posh game. However I personally found even to fake it ends up being heavy on the middle class pocket and its a drag in the long run.

In my experience American tourists were the easiest ONS as well and get on Tinder right now before they leave after new years and you are bound to score. Same during the summer you can stay busy just scoring tourists off Tinder and they recycle every other week.

However I find myself too old to put in all that effort on day game and text /follow up on dates and to take tourists around before slaying. Travelling and working over extended period in continental Europe has spoiled me and if your job is paying you handsomely to an extent you cant replicate that pay in another country this datasheet breaks down how to get the best squeeze out of London.

One of the best sheets on the forum. +1

[Nordwand]

I have my doubts about some of the London info on here, which I refer to privately as "GQ Dream Sheets".

[Rossi]

Is Fulham considered Chelsea area?

[The Alpha Virgin]

I was in London last year.

+ Tinder contained many 9's and 10's.
You could maybe complain that there are many average, ugly and fat chicks in London but the city is so huge that there will naturally be more 9's and 10's in the city than most other places. Not by percentage, but in real numbers.
+ Most people are polite and super nice.
+ Nice energy.
+ Some cool night clubs. I went to some high end clubs there and some of the quality there was the best I've seen in Europe.
+ Girls were very polite. At least to me.

- Expensive as hell to use public transport. I spent more money on public transport than I did on hotels, food and everything else combined. If you go there, it could be an idea to plan how you're going to get around because it could save you a lot of cash.
- Cold as fuck.
You better bring clothes for going to Antartica if you go there in January. I believe you feel more cold being in England than if you travel to Scandinavia or Siberia. Most buildings and houses have useless insulation so you will freeze your balls off if you go there in the winter.
- Muslim immigrants.

[giama]

at the alpha virgin. do you have an accent? which areas did you frequent?

i say that because london is not considered a friendly london. very conservative people. my guess is you have a usa movie start vibe or something extra to set you apart. tough place to game quality.

it is well known that londoners do not know there neighbours or say hi. its clannish too.

unsual to hear londoners described as friendly when i once saw 60 people walk on a bus and not even one acknowledge the driver. it does depend on area though and the type of people you interact with. i would class atlanta/southern american folk as friendly.

edit- actual brits can be friendly. especially the geezer types. but a lot of london is made up of foreigners and hipsters. urbans and muslims. polish. its soulless to me.

[giama]

tinder contained many 9s and 10? not in my experience.

maybe you went to a very good area. if its set by radius. for example knightsbridge or west end. and they were clubbing in the top clubs.

the 9s and 10s i know in London would not be caught dead on tinder. They will go to the top clubs and guys will buy bottles for them. or they will find a sugar daddie on the many sugar daddy websites. no need for tinder for them.

jus saying it how i see it. i guess its all subjective.

[wonderer1]

Really great sheet, anyone have any further info on date venues in the west end area (I mean Chelsea/Mayfair/Kensington)?

I like:

VQ for 24 hour coffee
Aqua in oxford circus have nice booths you can sit in, there aren't many though
Sketch in Mayfair as you go in the room on the right has nice sofa type areas

Anyone got any more recommendations?

[Constitution45]

Madisons restaurant in the city, blues kitchen in old street and one of the many sky bars in the square mile.

[lemmy]

Zoo bar is very good but only closing time 1-3

[The Alpha Virgin]

What are good night clubs I can go to on a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday night? Where's the night life these days?
I like to party hard and wouldn't mind staying up to even 7 AM partying on weekdays.

Thanks for any answer in advanced.

Seems like I will come to London again now on Sunday but I probably won't stay until the weekend. Hopefully it's just as fantastic as I remembered it!