[speakeasy]

This happens often after I opened. I tend to get stuck in rational conversation. You often have to at first. Say you're in a situation like I'm in, traveling and there's a cute girl at the hostel. You use obvious openers like, "what's your name? where are you from, how long you been traveling, what have you done, blah blah." But I tend to get stuck in that friendly chit chat mode and have a lot of trouble transitioning to more intimate conversation that will lead to an emotional connection that will in turn lead to a hook up.

Occasionally I'll get lucky and just things align right and I'm able to get to a more intimate connection naturally without thinking about it, but that's rare and just a chance occasion. 9 times out of 10, I get stuck in logical conversation and can't get past that.

Any advice for breaking out the sticking point, some good ways of making transitions from friendly chit chat to more of a connection?

[InternationPlayboy]

I don't know, I'm thinking maybe bring up what you thought about the girls in the countries you've visited. Always talk negatively about the girls though, making her think you have high standards. She might think you are hard to get, and girls want what they can't have. Explain the flaws in the girls. That way you can even manipulate her to act the way you want her to. Tell her how the cultural and language barriers sucked. If she is not American, tell her you've never experienced a girl from her country. Let it go from there. I think it could lead to some interesting and intimate conversation.

[InternationPlayboy]

Actually, I guess it could work either way if you spoke positively or negatively about the foreign girls. If positive, she might feel she is inferior and have try to reach their level. I actually kind of used this on my girl. When I met her I was with one of my friend's friends I went to Brazil with that was staying with me for a couple days before he went back to Brazil. I brought up how me and the kid I was with had just met the other day because my friend had asked me if his friend (kid I was with) could stay with me since I stayed at his house in Brazil. She liked to travel as well, which made it easy to connect. I told her how sexy and fun I thought South American girls were, and how the last American girl I had kissed hadn't been for about 5 or 6 months. Now every time we are around Latina girls, it seems she feels she has to over acheive. It seems she always tries a little harder after I run into a cute latina girl that I know when I'm with her.

[wintergreen]

(04-08-2009 12:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

This happens often after I opened. I tend to get stuck in rational conversation. You often have to at first. Say you're in a situation like I'm in, traveling and there's a cute girl at the hostel. You use obvious openers like, "what's your name? where are you from, how long you been traveling, what have you done, blah blah." But I tend to get stuck in that friendly chit chat mode and have a lot of trouble transitioning to more intimate conversation that will lead to an emotional connection that will in turn lead to a hook up.

Occasionally I'll get lucky and just things align right and I'm able to get to a more intimate connection naturally without thinking about it, but that's rare and just a chance occasion. 9 times out of 10, I get stuck in logical conversation and can't get past that.

Any advice for breaking out the sticking point, some good ways of making transitions from friendly chit chat to more of a connection?

I'm traveling at the moment too and I've been facing a similar challenge. What I've done (with some success) is to start out asking the innocuous questions but quickly spicing it up with some cocky-funny type stuff.

Like if she says, "I'm from Frankfurt", you can say "I've heard about you Germans" and bring a sexual vibe, or you can sorta neg her with something like "Oh, I went there once, it was a quaint little fishing village."

Maybe not the best replies but I don't really think them up in advance, I just tailor it to whatever she says.

Another option is to take something she says and use it as an opening to move the conversation in the direction you want. Like if she says she's traveling with her friend you can talk about how you travel solo because it teaches you self-awareness and blah blah blah."

Or you can skip the questions all together and do a cold read like Roosh talks about in his book ("let me guess, you're from..."). Or "ut oh, I've met girls like you before in hostels, you're a dangerous one, aren't you?"

Just some ideas.. the questions are ok to get the conversation started but you have to do something with the conversation to take it in a more interesting direction.. Otherwise when you run out of questions you won't have anything to talk about and if she isn't attracted to you yet, then she won't be working to keep the conversation going.

[elguapo]

If the convo gets boring, tell her she has very juicy, full lips followed by, "you know what this means?"
"yeah, you must give great blowjobs"

atleast you'll never be in LJBF zone.

[Roosh]

Teasing and joking around will easily get you out of that rational mode.