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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

I've met two women who married young in sort of a throwback to earlier days. One was sort of setup in a semi-arranged marriage way by her own dad. The other met at med-school. Low or no notches and both marriages ended badly, leaving them with serious baggage.

I don't know the sweet spot in young women playing the field in order to develop a better judge of character but the examples above tell me that young women, even if they want to be "good girls" may be just too damn immature and inexperienced to choose wisely. It's either that or the long-term outcome of marriages should be seen as simply too hard to predict, as people always change over their lives.

I have a daughter myself and she's a senior in high school with ZERO experience outside of a pen pal in California that she's fantasizing about. So the above questions are not academic. They factor into my last act as a parent in giving my daughter some sort of advice, as awkward as that is to do as a single father with full custody.
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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 10:09 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2017 09:28 AM)Repo Wrote:  

Likewise, one should also not underestimate the effect of good parenting on your kids. The type of kids you raise is a direct reflection of oneself. It's easy to look around at misbehaving kids and think the world is falling apart, but actually working with kids the trend always seems to be bad or absent parents. Just as it takes good game to keep a LTR alive, it takes a different type of game (or should I say character) to raise good kids. As the man of the house, it all comes back to you and how you behave. Yes there are external factors, just like when you are in a relationship with a woman there are external factors, but at the end of the day the most important factor is you the man, as you should be leading the household.

There's certainly something to be said about good parenting, but I do agree with Samseau that there's a lot of luck involved.

I never understood how my girlfriend's mom managed to raised 3 pretty daughters, all thin and feminine long hair etc., don't drink, don't smoke, aren't overly slutty, are anti-feminist (they do vote Macron but you can't ask for wisdom in a woman, get real). In fucking Paris. As a single mother.

The mom herself is a very simple woman, so there's that. But that alone can not account for everything, given how the environment is so corrupted. So there is luck involved.

You can be a beacon of virtue, be "the last roman", but one day your kid started becoming BFF with some degenerade shithead you can basically call it good game. I've seen this way too many times.

Again, what can we do but try our best and hope for the best?

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That isn't discussed alot here, but there is a type of game needed to maintain a healthy marriage or LTR. I am not married, but have seen the effects of bad game within marriages in my friends, and also the benefits of great game and frame.

It's because most men here either don't want it, or aren't prepared for it. Say what you will about women, men are just as prone to instant gratification and moral decline. They dont want to risk putting in the effort without a sure "ROI", and call it "rational decision making". They next the first girl who don't put out. This is the decline that Samseau was talking about in other threads. On one hand there's enough LTR material to go around, on the other hand even if you get one there's no incentive for men to get married.

The truth is that most "players" wouldn't know what to do with a good girl if we dump one right into their lap. They either give up/next because it's too much work/she is boring, or they get the bang and move on, leaving the girl ruined. Sounding like a WK here, but unfortunately this is one of the way some girls turn jaded.

I feel it's genetic, and not entirely about the way you were raised, the person you were born to be is stronger than any experience you might feel as a child. But then a much stronger societal pressure comes and women seek a way out. Promiscuity quickly ensues. Your GF sisters might be very feminine in nature, and that makes them strong women, but society will break them eventually unless they get a man to protect them. If women understood the value of getting in a solid relationship early in life, our troubles as a society would be greatly reduced. Sadly, women have lost the art of getting a man--most are completely clueless.
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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 10:55 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

I've met two women who married young in sort of a throwback to earlier days. One was sort of setup in a semi-arranged marriage way by her own dad. The other met at med-school. Low or no notches and both marriages ended badly, leaving them with serious baggage.

I don't know the sweet spot in young women playing the field in order to develop a better judge of character but the examples above tell me that young women, even if they want to be "good girls" may be just too damn immature and inexperienced to choose wisely. It's either that or the long-term outcome of marriages should be seen as simply too hard to predict, as people always change over their lives.

I have a daughter myself and she's a senior in high school with ZERO experience outside of a pen pal in California that she's fantasizing about. So the above questions are not academic. They factor into my last act as a parent in giving my daughter some sort of advice, as awkward as that is to do as a single father with full custody.
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The best you can do is to be the man you want your daughter to marry, as daughters look for men that are like their father in character. I would want her to get married as soon as possible--it's a win/win for women.

Best of luck.
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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

@Questor: in your example, not enough info to decide, but it might well be the man's fault as well as the women's. Again at the risk of sounding like a WK, I can totally understand women divorcing weak men. Shit if I had a daughter I would never let her date most of the guys I know, 90% of which are boring as fuck and the 10% left are players. The men that I would give my daughter to, might have better option than her. It's a vicious cycle.

I dont know what comes first, did men become weak and allow women to surpass them, or did women surpass men and make them soy betas? Either way you see my point. You cannot ask a girl to stay in a LTR with a weak, beta man. I would not want that for my daughter.

In this kind of matter I tend to blame men. We wouldnt be in this mess if somebody in the past learned to properly bitchslap their gals while dem hoes be shit testing.

This reminds me of my discussion with my mentor, who is engaged to a very high quality girl. During his player days (and he was a damn good one) he remarks that the beautiful girls who are feminine, are usually already taken up by a strong alpha man, and have no incentive to cheat on him (my buddy tries).

So for a LTR to last nowadays, it really is a matter of luck + game. The girl has to be LTR material in the first place, and she has to be locked up early by a masculine man, in order for a LTR to last.

Or, of course, you can both be two losers with no option, who stumble into a LTR and stay there not out of love but out of laziness and fear. Until eventually you cheat on each other. This is 70% of all relationships nowadays.

Strange time.

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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 10:09 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2017 09:28 AM)Repo Wrote:  

Likewise, one should also not underestimate the effect of good parenting on your kids. The type of kids you raise is a direct reflection of oneself. It's easy to look around at misbehaving kids and think the world is falling apart, but actually working with kids the trend always seems to be bad or absent parents. Just as it takes good game to keep a LTR alive, it takes a different type of game (or should I say character) to raise good kids. As the man of the house, it all comes back to you and how you behave. Yes there are external factors, just like when you are in a relationship with a woman there are external factors, but at the end of the day the most important factor is you the man, as you should be leading the household.

There's certainly something to be said about good parenting, but I do agree with Samseau that there's a lot of luck involved.

I never understood how my girlfriend's mom managed to raised 3 pretty daughters, all thin and feminine long hair etc., don't drink, don't smoke, aren't overly slutty, are anti-feminist (they do vote Macron but you can't ask for wisdom in a woman, get real). In fucking Paris. As a single mother.

The mom herself is a very simple woman, so there's that. But that alone can not account for everything, given how the environment is so corrupted. So there is luck involved.

You can be a beacon of virtue, be "the last roman", but one day your kid started becoming BFF with some degenerade shithead you can basically call it good game. I've seen this way too many times.

Again, what can we do but try our best and hope for the best?

Quote:Quote:

That isn't discussed alot here, but there is a type of game needed to maintain a healthy marriage or LTR. I am not married, but have seen the effects of bad game within marriages in my friends, and also the benefits of great game and frame.

It's because most men here either don't want it, or aren't prepared for it. Say what you will about women, men are just as prone to instant gratification and moral decline. They dont want to risk putting in the effort without a sure "ROI", and call it "rational decision making". They next the first girl who don't put out. This is the decline that Samseau was talking about in other threads. On one hand there's enough LTR material to go around, on the other hand even if you get one there's no incentive for men to get married.

The truth is that most "players" wouldn't know what to do with a good girl if we dump one right into their lap. They either give up/next because it's too much work/she is boring, or they get the bang and move on, leaving the girl ruined. Sounding like a WK here, but unfortunately this is one of the way some girls turn jaded.

Girls getting pump and dumped after throwing themselves at alphas who weren't really interested in them shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The only way a woman can truly protect herself is to demand marriage in exchange for her virginity.

Because an entire generation of women have been lied to, there isn't nearly enough LTR material to go around. Hence negative birthrates.

Quote: (11-07-2017 10:55 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

I've met two women who married young in sort of a throwback to earlier days. One was sort of setup in a semi-arranged marriage way by her own dad. The other met at med-school. Low or no notches and both marriages ended badly, leaving them with serious baggage.

I don't know the sweet spot in young women playing the field in order to develop a better judge of character but the examples above tell me that young women, even if they want to be "good girls" may be just too damn immature and inexperienced to choose wisely. It's either that or the long-term outcome of marriages should be seen as simply too hard to predict, as people always change over their lives.

I have a daughter myself and she's a senior in high school with ZERO experience outside of a pen pal in California that she's fantasizing about. So the above questions are not academic. They factor into my last act as a parent in giving my daughter some sort of advice, as awkward as that is to do as a single father with full custody.

Tell her never to take off her clothes until wedding night. Will sort out 99% of users and abusers, and if she's a virgin she'll be able to command such a high price.

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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 08:57 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2017 08:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

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There won't be many regrets in my old age, regardless if I succeed, but there will be for you, should our civilization totally collapse, as you will see your children get fucked up in ways you never even thought possible.

I used to think like you but time and tide have wised me up.

I wish the same for you, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

And when time finishes wising you up, you'll sound like those British war vets.

As for me, I'm humble enough to accept the wisdom of my elders left to me from history and present record. I won't need to learn the hard way like you.

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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 09:28 AM)Repo Wrote:  

As the man of the house, it all comes back to you and how you behave. Yes there are external factors, just like when you are in a relationship with a woman there are external factors, but at the end of the day the most important factor is you the man, as you should be leading the household.

Till you get frivorced by the woman who decided you just weren't good enough anymore, and a lawyer told her how much she could collect from you. LTR game, lol.

Only an idiot puts his balls on a cutting board, which is what modern marriage laws are.

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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

Quote: (11-07-2017 12:43 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (11-07-2017 09:28 AM)Repo Wrote:  

As the man of the house, it all comes back to you and how you behave. Yes there are external factors, just like when you are in a relationship with a woman there are external factors, but at the end of the day the most important factor is you the man, as you should be leading the household.

Till you get frivorced by the woman who decided you just weren't good enough anymore, and a lawyer told her how much she could collect from you. LTR game, lol.

Only an idiot puts his balls on a cutting board, which is what modern marriage laws are.

Yeah I see this mainly with guys with weak game or with wives who already had a ton of red flags before the marriage. It sounds like you don't believe in the effectiveness of LTR game, but interpreting "lol" isn't something I'm going to be worried about.
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Finding out that a girl you thought was decent is really a slut

There's a bit of everything in this earth, try to avoid getting tunnel vision on every subject.
There are a lot of nice wholesome gals out there and a lot of despicable courtesans and whole slew of everything in between.

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