I log on to the forum listening to
Dog Days Are Over and find this thread...
Deep cut spergy conspiracy mode:
I'm still young, but the older I get, the more I realise that trusting one's gut is everything. My gut says that way more chicks than even us cynical bastards would believe, and definitely way more than the societal narrative would admit, are 'involved' with their dogs.
Easy_C, I don't think that other common pets are necessarily comparable to dogs in all respects.
If I consider a girl with a cat of a certain size, versus a girl with a dog of the same size, it'd never occur to me that she would be fucking the cat (even if she could just as 'easily' as the dog), but it would at least cross my mind that she could be doing something with the dog.
There is no cultural joke of cats humping anything that moves. There is with dogs, even with small ones.
In several respects, cats are more woman-like: the well-known redpill/PUA analogy of treating women like cats to game them, cats being more disloyal, cats lashing out more randomly but pathetically, cats will continue to 'shit' test you indefinitely even after you've established physical dominance.
A dog is much more like a (low-inhibition/stereotypical) man: humps anything that moves, is more straightforward/open with its emotions and expresses them directly, is a protector, is loyal, is more of a pack-type animal with established physical dominance hierarchies (and will not give you shit if you establish dominance), has a louder, deeper 'voice', runs around doing whatever the fuck he wants to do, etc.
(The subversion of some of these qualities by smaller, feminine 'handbag' dogs, or poorly trained dogs, I think is a large part of the negative reactions they get, and why most manly men wouldn't be caught dead with one.)
The alpha/beta dichotomy originated (though I hear since discredited in that context) in the study of wolves, from which dogs were domesticated.
As stupid as it sounds, I definitely think it'd be possible to get AMOG'd by a girl's dog, but not by her cat.
Imagine if a girl's dog fucked with you, and you went to discipline it, but it growled and stared you down and you relented in fear. I could easily see a girl then going to hold the dog (siding with the alpha) and 'call it off' and her pussy getting wet for the dog and dry for you. Who knows what would happen between her and the dog after you went home dick in hand, if she were aroused by the event and the dog 'made a move'.
As far-fetched as it sounds, that scenario is at least conceivable to me, whereas such a situation is inconceivable with e.g. a cat.
I also find it harder to imagine even with a larger animal (horses not withstanding? I also suspect most/all horse girls are crazy)--I think the specific personality/socialisation characteristics/social role of dogs is playing a role here, particularly the way they interact with and express dominance in a way not dissimilar to men.
It's also worth noting that dogs 'knot'--once their dick goes inside, a bulbous section at the base swells to forcibly lock it in until the dog finishes or loses arousal. This means that if a girl 'accidentally' ends up with her dog's dick inside her, she might be 'forced' to finish him off/let him finish--we know how much chicks love plausible deniability and being faux-forcibly 'taken'.
Obviously this is not to say that women are thinking this way on a conscious level. Rather, they are subconsciously more aware of, and are aroused by, the dominance/status implications, and the parallels between dogs and men.
Remember that women's sexuality is driven by relational feels, whereas men's is driven by absolute visuals. So unless a guy has a fetish or imprinting to fuck animals (tiny minority of guys), he just won't be interested. Women are much more fluid, and aroused by the role being fulfilled by the subject (even if that subject is an animal) and its relation to the other subjects. Very few guys will have the disposition to be involved with animals, but many women will have the ability to become aroused by them.
Even before I consciously identified this train of thought, I always felt weirder, even as a kid, about women with a male dog than with a female dog, like he was supplanting the alpha role that should be fulfilled by a human male partner.
If a single woman, usually a woman in her twenties, chooses to get a male dog of any reasonable size (or maybe even one of 'unreasonable' size), then she's chosen to shack up with a creature with many of the 'lower' functions/qualities of a man, in lieu of working to lock down an actual quality man. Notably, unless she's one of the extremely rare girls that trains her dog well, then the dog will be constantly misbehaving, providing her with the kind of drama that would crop up in a dysfunctional domestic situation with a human male partner, which doesn't bode well for how she'll approach relationships with men.
To go even deeper:
There are many more connections to deeper red pill theory here than we initially appreciate.
Some of the key factors in the polarisation (increasingly winner-takes-all nature) of the SMP/RMP are the welfare state, female financial independence, and extended periods of lone female habitation outside the familial home.
More and more women are increasingly disgusted by non-alpha males, demanding men far above themselves in SMV/RMV. As a result, they end up in a purgatory where they can't lock down the men they have convinced themselves they deserve, but refuse to touch the beta males who are actually their equals. While a male dog might not match up to a true alpha male man, but unlike a beta or lesser male, it does at least refuse to take her shit, is in touch with its primal nature, is unapologetically horny and sexual, gives her more pleasant feels to look at, does whatever the fuck it wants, communicates well on a subcommunication/primal/intuitive/body language level, and doesn't dry up her pussy (maybe even moistens it). It's not implausible a woman in such a situation (of which there are many) will choose to get a dog rather than try to build a relationship with a non-alpha male who is her equal.
The dog will provide emotional support and reflect back her emotional state/feels whenever she wants. If she's so inclined, it will happily mount her and fuck her like an animal (even better if it claws and scratches her as she struggles) whenever she gets horny and enjoy eating her pussy.
The key difference from a man is that the dog won't be a provider, and will be totally dependent on her for resources. But as mentioned above, a key prevailing factor today is female independence from any specific man for resources. It has been noted (e.g. in analysis of 'clown game' and the commodification of even alpha men as fucktoys for pre-wall women) that, for the modern, financially independent pre-wall woman, even alpha males just serve to provide entertainment (e.g. through clown game) and dick-on-demand (human fucktoys), since she no longer depends on them for resources.
This is basically exactly what a dog provides, and he provides it better than a beta male could, even if not as well as the alpha males who aren't a captive audience to her the way the dog is.
Of course a guy who said this, or even who speaks out against catladies, will be swiftly denounced for criticising 'strong independent women'. At the same time, (not necessarily unfairly) the prospect of men abandoning women for sexbots is treated with derision, 'giving up', or even a problem that needs to be pre-emptively legislated against. Part of the worry there is men being so overwhelmed
by the superstimulus of the sexbots, that they must be shamed against this or forbidden from indulging the superstimulus, for fear of the women losing all the men or civilisation collapsing.
But potentially the same thing is happening to these women--their base emotional needs (and in some cases, sexual needs) are met well enough by their pets that the stimulus removes any urge on their part to partner up with a man.
Remington is no slack, and his ex basically supplanted him with a dog?
Maybe she just wanted the pure emotional superstimulus of dealing with a dog. Maybe she bitched to her friends about our boy's pimping, and they convinced her that 'men are pigs' so she got a dog.
Who knows.
I am hopeful that the young girls coming up now are a dialectic swing against the distrust, fear, and loathing of men that the generation above them are exhibiting. But if not, then the even greater lack of face-to-face social skills and ability to navigate real-life relationships I am worried is on the horizon, might encourage even more women that real relationships are 'too much work' and to give up on men, possibly supplanting them with pets.
I'm not (yet?) prepared to go that far, and maybe it goes to far into the realm of paranoia, but some of you here might suggest an increase in such bestiality, and its acceptance, as the traditional bounds on marriage (heterosexual, between only two people and not more, between humans etc.) are relaxed and repealed. There is some evidence of this in the mentions above of 'emotional support service animals' above.
I realise this is pretty dark stuff, and far out there. I'm not going to claim even a majority of single girls with male dogs have ever done this sort of stuff even once. But I suspect it's way more prevalent than we want to admit, and in those cases, might be a symptom of degeneracy and civilisational decline.
Easy_C, I'd be interested to hear you flesh out the counterexample women you mention.
Quote: (10-29-2017 11:12 AM)Incubus Wrote:
At a certain point she just give up opened her legs and let the dog eat her out/bone her. with her curtains open!
Not 100% sure you're not trolling, but this anecdote is totally believable to my gut.
Quote: (10-29-2017 11:12 AM)Incubus Wrote:
I don't want to be licking what the dogs have been licking
I had one chick where the dog was growling the entire time I was banging her. She just ignored her other lover but I couldn't with my balls dangling and the dog behind my ass
I also get a hoot out of them small dawgs with out of proportion to it's body wangs.
I look at chicks directly when I see them walking there boyfriends ( I mean dogs) cause I want them to know I know what they are doing to those poor animals.
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Quote: (10-29-2017 11:12 AM)Incubus Wrote:
the guy loved the dog it appeared to me always sat there playing with it and when he wasn't he was looking at his smart phone
Basically this hot blonde girlfriend was ignored.
'Use dog for dread/attention competition' game recognized? Considering he got cucked by the dog, maybe not...
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