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Virtue Signaling Dissected
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Virtue Signaling Dissected

[posting here for crystallisation, comments]

For several years I have been pondering the mental states and real motives of those who engage in grievance politics. When I see people engage in this, I see a big disconnect between what they are communicating and what their real motives are, which are likely subconscious.

To begin, you have to establish people are fundamentally selfish. When a person goes for a night out, they are not thinking how much of a good time they can give everyone else, they are thinking how much of a good time they can have. They don't buy products to give purchasing power to the merchant, they do it because they value the product more than the money.

This doesn't mean that some people don't give consideration to other people. It means that people [largely] only engage in something when they see value in doing so, even if that value is seen as negative by most others, i.e. self-destructive behaviour. An example that may be given as non-selfish behaviour is a bodyguard who takes a bullet to save the life of their employer. But I would argue the bodyguard, using whatever reasoning, values doing so more than not doing so. A non-selfish reason for doing so would be valour. What people value can be dramatically different.

The second point to establish is that people's behaviour is geared towards extracting things that they value. Some people value cutting their arms open for attention or some other neurotic reason; some want to be rich; some want to feel they are a good person; some want access to sex with as many beautiful women as possible and so on. Sometimes that value can be abstract, such as those who self-deprecate by putting others first or those who make sacrifices for their children. I would argue that they only act in this way because they find value in doing so as non-material (the latter) and neurotic-self-destruction (the former). When I was younger I use to generally put other people before myself to such an extent that I would deliberately loose at games. I didn't do this because I was Jesus Christ on the cross. I had subconsciously reasoned my way into doing so. I didn't value discomforting others or be in any way dominant or competant. I found comfort in being second. That is what I valued.

The left (to be redefined later) project that the right (ditto) is fundamentally selfish and geared towards leeching value; while they, the left, are fundamentally unselfish and geared towards sharing value. However, if that were the case it would require large amounts of sacrifice (giving away what one values for the benefit of others). But we don't see this. You don't see those who push that narrative:

- marrying ugly, dysfunctional people
- giving more money to charity that conservatives (which they don't)
- hosting refugees in Beverley Hills or at Islington dinner parties
- giving up their child's place at private or selective schools for the disadvantaged

and so on.

The left are, I would argue, more interested in maintaining (rather than sacrificing) what they value. But what they value tends to differ somewhat and give the illusion of sacrifice within current cultural narratives if not closely analysed.

The third point to establish is the physiological aspect of human behaviour. Engaging in activities and behaviours changes an individual's biochemistry. Some of these changes are organic (or natural) and promote well-being and cognitive-emotional balance; while others are unnatural and cause imbalance. Examples of activities that promote earned/organic changes in biochemistry are having fun with friends, accomplishing goals, helping others, excercising and so on. While activities such as masturbating to pornography, playing computer games and taking drugs convince the brain to change the body's biochemistry in ways that are not earned and wire the brains in ways which are not conducive to operating in real-world situations that promote balance and happiness. The more the activity or behviour is engaged in the more serious the imbalance and depression.

In the case of playing computer games, the gamer values the release of dopamine and/or other chemicals to get a high; and depending on the nature of the game may gain a false sense of achievement for having done nothing more than move a few bytes around in a way that is of no use to anyone. Playing games chronically leads to a state in which the gamer gets lower highs, may start playing more, seeks more games; and all the while the unearned highs and sense of achievement grate against the gamer's real-world needs and causes depression. This is a Pavlovian response. The individual finds a shortcut to get things they value: images of beautiful women, dramatic battles, climbing gaming hierarchies, the release of endorphins etc. But the stimuli don't warrant it and the individual gets caught in a negative feedback loop. It's very easy to surf on to TitAndBumTube.net, take drugs, play World of Worldcraft; it's also very easy to signal your virtue.

Virtue signaling causes a profound shift in people. For those particularly enraged by grievance narratives, it causes obvious changes in body language, visibly unbalanced behaviour and some form of screeching. For the moderate, the changes are less obvious. They will often lift their head (looking down on you), the tone of their voice will go high (speaking down to you) and typically go down and then up as they finish what they are saying. This is their way of trying to establish themselves above you in a hierarchy of virtue. It's as primitive as giving someone a smackdown in a physical dominance hierarchy. All this amounts to considerable changes in physiology. Just as the place of a gorilla in a dominance hierarchy changes the colour of his back in a way that is physically and mentally intoxicating, the virtue signaler is subconsciously chasing the highs that come with convincing your brain it's doing good, while doing nothing.

A virtue signaler is someone who places a considerable weight upon feeling good about themselves and appearing like a good person to others. Thus, climbing the virtue hierarchy. A deeply researched 2016 paper by Jordan et. al. investigating the motives for moral outrage found, as summerised in the New York Times:

...that expressing moral outrage can serve as a form of personal advertisement … Why would a selfless tendency like moral outrage result from the “selfish” process of evolution? One important piece of the answer is that expressing moral outrage actually does benefit you, in the long run, by improving your reputation.

Virtue signaling is an attempt to gain the value of feeling good about one's self and appearing virtuous without having to sacrifice anything one values.

Drugs, pornography, virtue signaling and gaming all offer the individual quick access to biochemical highs and respectively:

Drugs: escaping reality (drug addicts often come from abusive backgrounds)
Pornography: access to beautiful women (porn addicts often have little access to women)
Gaming: escaping reality (gaming addicts often suffer from isolation and hopelessness)
Virtue signaling: feeling good about one's self (virtue signaling addicts tend to be selfish people who expect others or society to make the sacrifices while they walk off with the moral high ground; they come from backgrounds of personal shame and self-loathing as we are seeing with the slew of virtue signalers caught up in harassment scandals).

One aspect of virtue signaling and the left that has confused me for some time is why wealthy people would support redistributive and grievance politics while engaging in virtue signaling. I believe that, minus the often seen hypocrisy (tax avoidance, sexual harassment etc.), of such people; once you are a wealthy, emotional, creative actor like Matt Damon, the value of chasing the luxury of feeling and being seeing as virtuous (purely selfish) outweighs the value of having more money than you know what to do with. While for Donald Trump, feeling or being seen as good has little value over accumulating more wealth. It all depends on what individual's personally value. In such cases virtue signaling is a luxury and only chasing further personal value.

Another observation is that I don't think that those who promote grievance narratives actually want them to be fixed. This would remove the short-cut virtue signaling provides and it's why we are seeing virtue signalers resort to more fringe causes like “virtuous pedophiles”, consensual necrophilia, four years olds' rights to LGBTQ education, the proximity of a man's knees to each other while sitting on the subway… It would also remove the excuses for the lack of value in the lives of those who have not put in the required work to acquire such value. A key point that I won't go into now is that grievance narratives are used as the reason for wealth redistribution. This is some people's survival strategy and it is extremely selfish.

The proof of this can be seen in the disconnect between how the left treats their inherent victims who agree or say noting compared to those who disagree with their methods, narratives and goals. The left are so quick to shout "sexist" when a female Labour MP is given a challenge magically disappear or applaud at the jubilation of Margaret Thatcher's death and the prior calls for it; so quick to start shouting "coon", "porch money", "uncle Tom" when a Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Tommy Sotomayer... doesn't agree with them; so quick to shout "anti-Muslim extremist" at Maajid Nawaz who says all the killing and violence in the Quran needs to be excised; ban the UKIP LGBT group from the London gay pride march as they don't fit in...

The left hates no one more than their those they cast as inherent victims when they dare disagree with communism, socialism, to-the-wire social democracy or their grievance narratives. The left really don't care about these issues, their narrative is instead one of a collective subconscious that seeks to reorganise society based on a grievance hierarchy as opposed to a competence hierarchy or dominance hierarchy, which they are unable to distinguish between.

The Left and The Right

The political spectrum is a nonsense, which belongs in the realm of early modern misunderstandings such as spontaneous generation. What we are told are the far-right and the far-left almost always have more in common with each other and even the center than they do with libertarians, fiscal conservatives and voluntrists; all of whom are typically plotted as far-right. The political spectrum attempts to plot any way of looking at everything on a x-y axis and fails miserably. Those who are in favour of small government are placed towards the far-right on virtue of that desire, yet when you move further right you are magically told you come across people who want giant state intervention, socialised health-care and high taxes. Further, under the veneer of mainstream Western politics, you'll find many who vote for left parties hold considerable social conservative views. The whole thing does not add up and is marred by incoherent principals.

There is however an x-y axis that perfectly explains the two overarching that are polar opposites. That is a spectrum between grievance and dominance.

At the extent of grievance you will find people who want society to be arranged by how much of a victim you can be portrayed as by those who have managed to climb to the top of the hierarchy. This has been dubbed “the victimhood pyramid”. Their leader is the ultimate victim and they will redistribute wealth (and probably other things people value) based upon grievances, real or imagined. However, such a society would be so weak and regressive in every sphere that it would quickly be taken over. The other alternative is to do what the few societies that were highly organised around grievance narratives did: install some of the most brutal dominance hierarchies ever seen and start eradicating those who don't agree with you. I'm talking about the communists. That such things happened almost every time a far-grievance, virtue signaling movement came to power again shows they don't care about anything they say they do care about.

At the extent of dominance you will find people who want society to be arranged by those who have the might to do so. Their leader is the ultimate strong man. There aren't many people who actually want this, including those who are cast as far-right. One culture that was organised in a similar way was the Viking culture. I would put Hitler in the center between dominance and grievance as his philosophy was so coloured with both; favouring hard rule while complaining of the grievances of the German people and promoting their dominance, not through their ability to be there, but holding them their in lieu of their identity. The latter is the very thesis of those the mainstream media has only recently been able to label “far-left”.

There is an alternative to organising society based on grievances or dominance - competence - the organisation of society around people who earn their place by exchanging value. Those that produce the most value rise to the top. When it arose as an organising force is society it created incredible wealth over what came before it.
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To spin off on one of the topics mentioned...

Among gorillas, the leader of a pack of gorillas has the colour of his back hair turn silver when he becomes a leader. Most packs are made up of one "silverback", women and babies. Sometimes there are younger males in the group with black back hair known as "blackbacks". In the event of a silverback's death one of the blackbacks (if any) can become leader and his back hair will change to silver. Otherwise the women and babies will disperse to find the safety of a silverback.

This is a very obvious sign of changes in physical characteristics based upon behaviour and life experiences. It's a feedback loop where than new siverback's position changes his body chemistry, the body chemistry makes him more dominant and he becomes intoxicated with the power, which changes his body chemistry...

That you have betas (blackbacks) that very quickly become alphas (silverbacks) should be an inspiration to feminised men that they can change themselves. There seems to be many such men here.

In human society, I think that there are environmental factors that turn off the potential expression of some genes in men that would otherwise be more assertive. The suppression of the behaviour also causes changes in body chemistry, which changes how the body looks, which is why leftist men tend to look sappy, even though they may have potential to look otherwise. I think it's clear that people wear their life on their face. It gets ingrained there, particularly via emotions, which are experienced by the body by via hormones, neurotransmitters etc. In the case of virtue signalling, this also gets written on the face and body via the chemical changes it causes. In plain English it's called "to look snooty".

When you mix that with low T and everything else that goes on, you get something like these writers for The Guardian, a British grievance tabloid:

Baby Oedipus:

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This guy's path of self-destruction has a fetish for rooftops:

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Bitter jealousy breeding totalitarianism, from a guy who probably could have competed:

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Still can't pluck up the courage to ask the wife why his son is so dark:

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And the affects of defeminisation:

Ideal relationship model for leftists:

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Deep, controlling imbalance caused by woman who wants to be a man:

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Bonus - caption competition:

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There is one vector that's sort-of brought up during your posts above, but I'd like to put a finger on it explicitly.

Basically, these headlines are designed for maximum clickbait on the Right. That includes the choice of author photograph, unless you think the author actually gets a choice about which picture of their corpse they want going up on the website. They are designed to provoke people like us. If you're reading it, the ad is for you.

The idea is to give you a bit of Orwellian two minute rage and -- most importantly -- thereby keep you from doing anything useful with your time or anything useful to actually bring down or change the System. You get to shake your head at the idiocy of the Left and worry about what the world's going to look like when your kids are grown-ups, which the Left doesn't care about so long as you do nothing to actually stop it. In that respect these articles are not that much different to the drugs, porn, or virtue signalling for the Left.

As with War Games, the only way to win is not to play.

Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm
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The danger, of course, is that some of them actually believe this stuff.

In which case:

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Quote: (10-28-2017 05:15 PM)gework Wrote:  

There is an alternative to organising society based on grievances or dominance - competence - the organisation of society around people who earn their place by exchanging value. Those that produce the most value rise to the top. When it arose as an organising force is society it created incredible wealth over what came before it.

Once those competent folks in this alternative organizational view rise to the top, they'll want to fulfill their fanciest desires as they seemingly now deserve it after all of that productive competence.

Then that creates industries full of [non-traditional-competence] which can lead back to grievances/dominance, or other realms.

Why? Because:

Quote: (10-28-2017 05:15 PM)gework Wrote:  

The second point to establish is that people's behaviour is geared towards extracting things that they value. Some people value cutting their arms open for attention or some other neurotic reason; some want to be rich; some want to feel they are a good person; some want access to sex with as many beautiful women as possible and so on. Sometimes that value can be abstract, such as those who self-deprecate by putting others first or those who make sacrifices for their children. I would argue that they only act in this way because they find value in doing so as non-material (the latter) and neurotic-self-destruction (the former).


In the end, regardless of personality type, people will generate wants and psychological needs from somewhere other than a desire for progress or enhanced competency. Others will rise up to meet those needs... vices, exploitation, victims, perps.
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There have been studies that indicate that conservatives and liberals literally think differently. Conservatives have more of a fear/scarcity attitude and liberals have more of a complacent/cooperative/sharing attitude. You can see how this aligns roughly with gender differences. Men are the warrior/protectors and women are the nurturers. At the same time, through much of human history, scarcity has been the crushing reality. Only in recent times has surplus reached a point where liberalism as we know it today can flourish. Only in little pockets of history prior to now did this occur (like the golden age of democracy in Greece). People can, on an abstract basis, feel concern and empathy for your fellow man, but in times of scarcity, people retreat into tribalism for their own survival. This is why failed states usually devolve into bloody sectarian warfare. There isn't enough for everyone and so people start to define their in-group along primal ethnic/religious/geographic lines.

Virtue signalling goes hand in hand with the level of hedonism in society as far as it reflecting a culture that suffers from wealth to the point of decadence. Humans know how to cope with scarcity but we struggle dealing with surplus. Life starts to get boring so we need to manufacture tempests in a teapot or run faster and faster on the hedonic treadmill.

We also are not adapted to dealing with diversity. Liberals struggle with the idea that humans are, by nature, tribal. They see in/out-group preference as a flaw that can be solved. But tribalism always sprouts up, if not ethnic, then ideological, as in political parties. Where there is tribalism there is bias/prejudice/hypocrisy.

The world as it is now forces us to deal with more diversity than ever before, not just in the people we see in our day to day lives, but in the viewpoints that are plastered over the internet.

When the world was smaller and more homogenous, you just didn't have to deal with differences to this degree. But if you want to just spend every moment in the day arguing with people who hold opinions you disagree with, you can, thanks to the internet.

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I think this has been going on for so long that, as frustrating as it is, people have become addicted to coarse internet sparring. And I think it's just as prevalent on the right as the left. The talking points might differ, but the anger is the same. It's really a 1st world problem.
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Quote: (10-28-2017 05:15 PM)gework Wrote:  

[posting here for crystallisation, comments]
The proof of this can be seen in the disconnect between how the left treats their inherent victims who agree or say noting compared to those who disagree with their methods, narratives and goals. The left are so quick to shout "sexist" when a female Labour MP is given a challenge magically disappear or applaud at the jubilation of Margaret Thatcher's death and the prior calls for it; so quick to start shouting "coon", "porch money", "uncle Tom" when a Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Tommy Sotomayer... doesn't agree with them; so quick to shout "anti-Muslim extremist" at Maajid Nawaz who says all the killing and violence in the Quran needs to be excised; ban the UKIP LGBT group from the London gay pride march as they don't fit in...

I've seen this quite a bit from Democrats here in America. They're notorious for doing this. Basically, since the 60's, they've long put Republicans in a no-win scenario on diversity and demographics. They state that there's no diversity and Republicans hate "whatever demographic", but as soon as one shows up, they call them tokens and dehumanize them. Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don't so they don't bother to become inclusive. If a topic like GOP outreach were ever to be discussed, they just use the token phrase with smugness and arrogance and given an example when a Republican does something stupid or says something offensive. It makes them look bad.

The Democrats don't have this problem because they're insulated by diversity and there are a number of minorities who will take a bullet for them. That really isn't a fair fight.

I never forgot one smug white Democrat on a forum calling Michael Steele (former Lt. Governor of Maryland) an "uber-token" despite I don't think he saw the crap he went through when trying to run for Senate back in 2006 and when he was Lt. Governor.

It goes back to a point I made about diversity in another post: Democrats like it only when they have it and no other party shouldn't.
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