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How do I get bottle service girls and models at clubs?
#26

How do I get bottle service girls and models at clubs?

Get jacked and work out at a gym with bad bitches, and game them there.
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#27

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Quote: (10-15-2017 10:59 AM)NKD Wrote:  

Papaya, I don’t see how it’s funny when both quotes are talking about something different. This is a forum not a real life interaction. You should know that: words, tonality and body language are a huge factor. But you just wanted to find any excuse or reason to attack my writing. Just like your first post in this thread, just shows that maturity is truly unrelated to your age.

Is English your first language?

G
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#28

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Imho bottle services are good, but most of the people who do that don't do it to get MORE girls, they usually have abundance of very attractive girls, but they do the tables + bottle service and THEN bring THEIR social circle of GIRLS into the tables and enter the club together.

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#29

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@Guitarman, I’m not trolling

@Oss_117, truly love how you explained it all and I agree 100%.

@Repo, I’m in good shape. I’ve started hitting the gym hard since Feb 2016, but I’ve never approached at the gym. I should do it but I talk myself out of it every time.

@Geomann, Arabic is my first language but I’m fluent in English. I’ve been in Canada since 2015, Montreal then now Toronto.
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#30

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Quote: (10-17-2017 05:50 AM)oss_117 Wrote:  

b) There is a finite amount of money to go around (yes banks can 'print' money but if they print too much it devalues). Which means that there is by virtue of simple math an 'upper limit' to the 'number of billionaires'

This is overly simplistic if not at least inaccurate. Money is just the "measure" of wealth. Wealth is NOT finite and the amount of paper currency in circulation, itself is only loosely correlated with the money supply itself.

Quote: (10-14-2017 08:35 PM)NKD Wrote:  

@PapayaTapper, I know what hard work is and I’m not asking for an easy solution. I’m looking for the most effective method that takes the least time. I’ve worked manual labour in the oil fields for two years, spending 25 days a month in the western desert, I’ve worked in warehouses, and a bunch of other shitty jobs. I have an engineering undergraduate degree and a graduate degree in economics. So please keep your negative and unhelpful comments to yourself.

Can please elaborate why you agree with oss position of there being finite wealth?

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#31

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Does that mean you get it NKD? I would love to hear back on how you're changing your habits. I did provide some suggestions in my earlier post.
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#32

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Quote: (10-17-2017 12:31 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Can please elaborate why you agree with oss position of there being finite wealth?

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#33

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Now you’ve changed his wording, as he said there is finite MONEY he didn’t say wealth. So I really don’t know wtf you want and yes there is finite money in the world, you don’t even need a high school degree to figure it out.
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#34

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Quote: (10-17-2017 02:59 PM)NKD Wrote:  

Now you’ve changed his wording, as he said there is finite MONEY he didn’t say wealth. So I really don’t know wtf you want and yes there is finite money in the world, you don’t even need a high school degree to figure it out.

False, currency is being created (and destroyed) every day. It's the amount of extrinsic value and that country's economic strength that makes one form of currency more or less valuable than the other.

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#35

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Lol says “False” then goes off topic.

Dude there is a finite amount of money, no matter how much paper banks print, or what the economy looks like or the value of each currency. This damn world has it’s limits in everything. It’s simple science, economics, finance, engineering, wtvr

I think some guys here on the forum use this forum to feel better about themselves. So many of you come here write retarded comments that sounds intelligent Using a strong words like “False” at first then continue to write shit that doesn’t really falsify my statement.

Just like Papaya, wrote a dump post talking shit about the newer generation and when I’ve mentioned my background. He still won’t give up because of his ego. “How can this new guy talk like that to me! I’ve got 84 rep points and I’m respected here on the forum.

Childish
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#36

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Quote: (10-14-2017 05:19 PM)NKD Wrote:  

So yeah here it goes,

We all know most girls working at high end clubs are usually 9s. Most of these clubs also hire models just to be there, this is done for several reasons and it’s pretty obvious why.

Anyways, I know these girls get hit on all the time and they must be some of the most stuck up bitches ever. Most of them are hardcore gold diggers but they still are very picky, what I mean is they don’t really date the 60 year old millionaire but the 20-40 year old wealthy/successful guys.

Here in Toronto several times I would approach one of them and she would compliment me and say something like “you’re cute” or “you’re handsome”. But somehow they would still walk away and not even let me finish the conversation. Some of you might think that whatever comes out of my mouth fucks everything up but look at this situation: In my book a 10, I approached her then she said “You have a beautiful smile”, “You’re a great conversationalist” but then when I tried to go for the number or try to escalate she walked away.

Yesterday walking downtown drunk as a mofo, I saw his Ukrainian chick that I saw before at one of the clubs here. First time I approached her, she said “You’re very handsome” so I asked her if she’s russian but she says that she’ Ukranian and walk away lol. So last night when I saw her and reapproached she had a smile (the one girls give me when they are interested) but still walked away. Ive seen her a couple of times always hanging out at booths in clubs.

Some of you might say that these girls are working and have no time for you. But one time at a club I approached a model, got her number (she said to get it later because she doesn’t want the people working their to see her), took her on a date but when she found out I’m no baller and unemployed, she told me she’s not interested.

Another situation, One of these girls came up to me and gave me a free drink!! I had no idea why, so we talked alittle then she left. So later on I approached her and talked and made some light jokes. She was laughing hard, and gave me a few compliments about my jokes and my personality. Still walked away.

I get it now, I can fake it and lie about my current situation no problem. I don’t approach them alot since these girls tend to be hard as fuck and it’ll be awkward if I went again. Some of these girls would keep eyeing me like crazy but since I’ve had very low success with these girls, I get approach anxiety with them.

From what I’ve also noticed is that most of these guys buying bottles and tables are not even fucking them. I’m the kind of person that goes nuts when I can’t get something I want and would do anything till I got it. What would be some recommendations from guys here having success with these girls?

I have a few ideas but they’ll take alot of work and money. Get bottles myself but I’m too broke, grow my social status but I have no clue how, get rich which is what I’m trying to figure out how. I’m 27 and in my prime and would like a method that wont take a long time to achieve.

Thanks for reading


You're approaching and going after the wrong kind of girls. I'm also really good looking (I look like a young Marlon Brando) but I have almost all my money tied up in the markets and I'm generally really frugal, reinvesting all my earning. Bottom line is I have nothing to give these gold diggers of which you speak, but thankfully these days it doesn't really matter.

You need to go after the artist type chicks and the university girls that couldn't give a crap about money. Now, you do live in Toronto which is a shit hole to say the least, but there should still be some hot girls for you to game. Get into the handsome, artsy social circles of the city; if you're indeed good looking and have a brain on you, they'll let you in with open arms.

Don't be the douchey good looking guy that goes to clubs; be the intellectual, interesting, and cool good looking guy.
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#37

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OP
I'm not trying to pick on you. I honestly thought if I gave you an opportunity to turn this thread into something of value by having an intelligent dialogue about the nature of wealth we would all benefit.

I find the topic of "finite wealth / money" an interesting concept and game relevant because it fosters a sense of " in order for me to win someone has to lose".

Not only do I believe that's not true but I also believe it's a limiting belief that should be quashed.

If we can only attain "more" at the expense of someone else having "less" ( which is what a finite "pool" of wealth seemingly implies) then id love to hear the argument from a post graduate economist such as yourself

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#38

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Papaya it is true that resources are limited, we are bound by the physical world. No matter what you want or believe there is no such thing as infinite money. There is no such thing as infinity except in numbers, we don’t even know if the universe is endless or not. Since NASA stopped going to the moon, we know nothing about the outside world.

Anyways back to the money topic. When you have more money then as a consequence another person will have less, unless we live in eutopia where everything is shared equally.

That is life, like I said, it’s a rat race. It’s more like the animal kingdom (survival of the fittest). We all want to be the best looking, the richest, the most likable and whenever we push forward with our goals we take a larger share of the pie. Lets say you’re a world class pickup artist, the more bitches you will attract and less for other guys. Another example: Top 20% of men on tinder are having their fair share of women while the other 80% are not even getting the fatties. I’m not sure if the percentages are accurate but it makes total sense.

We have a choice I believe. Either we dominate or be dominated. A third choice would be to let go of all desires such as greed, lust, search for hierarchy, dominance, jealousy, changing the truth for ones own benefit, vanity, materialism, the self preservation of self and kin and getting obsessed with work/career. They sound very similar to the 10 commandments but imagine if we become free of such. We wouldn’t suffer as we would open up our minds to what is our true purpose. We would see that everything we fight for on a daily basis is meaningless, I’m also guilty and a slave to my instincts/desires that will take me nowhere after I’m dead.

Even after that knowledge, I still fuck up. Someone here was complaining about me bashing Islam, however, when you are born a muslim and brainwashed for your whole life. Once you figure out it’s all bullshit, you’d feel cheated and robbed of your time and efforts.

I talk too much lol

@Striking, yo man I love artsy girls. My problems with them is that I’m very different and not the artsy type at all. Last two artsy girls I’ve met, took them out but never worked out. I wish I knew how to break into their social circles.

I also like small town girls, they’re freaky in bed and some of the most fun girls I’ve met. My favourite btw, I guess I like either really simple girls or hardcore sluts equally.
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#39

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Quote: (10-17-2017 12:05 PM)NKD Wrote:  

@Geomann, Arabic is my first language but I’m fluent in English. I’ve been in Canada since 2015, Montreal then now Toronto.

I ask because we get forum members here from all backgrounds, all walks of life, and with various different mother tongues. Sometimes, if English is not your first language you might speak in a way that comes across as counter-productive without even knowing it.

But it seems like you know what you're doing and in which tone, so carry on.

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#40

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You don't need bottle service to fuck these high end girls, that's supplication to the max.

Seeing as you asked though and for any other guys interested-

I did this, at 18, as it was the only way to get into the higher-end clubs. Pretended to be the son of someone really rich and let the money speak for you.

I used to have tables of bottle service back, eating at KFC in a suit then going to a 5* club spending 340EUR a bottle of Grey Goose & Belvedere.

The cost of it is easy, split 6 ways between a bunch of guys.

Work a 12 hour day, borrow some extra money from my parents and hit the clubs at 1AM till closing 5AM.

I went back this summer to check out my old stomping grounds and nothing has changed.

Went to Ibiza as a bunch of 19yo's rubbing shoulders with high end fashion label owners, spilling cocaine all over the table and inviting us to private parties because we were grade A shit-spinners.

If I could do it being a broke ass beach boy hustling on the side (spending all my money on bottle service to get laid) then you can too.

I ended up networking with some rich older guys who wanted to fuck girls in my class (who were 17/18) and I would go on their tables.

Traded familiar pussy for unknown pussy.

Is this clubbing scene a good idea?

No, you will attract the wrong kind of girls. You go out and most honeys are attached to their phones. They want want want and their game is tight. It's shallow and revolves around your possessions and what you can offer them.

Is it fun?

Yes, if you do it to have a good time with some mates, troll some girls and the place plays good music.

There are cheaper ways to have fun though.


a) Network - if you are broke, this is the most important

- know the bouncers, DJs, bartenders and waitresses
- hang out where they hang out in their downtime (bouncers - gyms, bartenders - barbers, DJs - other bars that their mates are playing at etc.)
- offer them something in return based off your profession/life and where you can add value
- if you can't just bullshit
- network with people who actually get tables and get prioritized
- if you fail with the above, find the girls in your social circle who do this kinda thing and get in with them

b) Look the part

- don't be a slob, suit up
- your mates need to be high value if you want to attract girls as a group (you ain't getting bottle service on your own)
- have some female friends around for the table ratio
- say hello to everyone; how would you behave if it was your birthday? You own the place, own it.

c) Be a cool towards everyone

- don't come across like you have in this thread
- don't let the illusion of prestige get to your head i.e. don't sit in your ivory tower looking down on the dancefloor sneering at people like they are beneath you
- bring the regular girls up in to the table
- don't be stingy. I don't do drugs anymore but expect that people will want or offer. Make your own decisions.

d) Have tight game

- don't be taken advantage of completely by these girls, they just want opulence and to make other girls jealous
- take care of the staff and they will take care of you
- avoid drama; this goes for your friends even more
- show up a bit later and make an entrance
- set your screening thresholds much higher than just looks
- bang on the same night if you can because you are spending this money to create a halo with the girls -> phone numbers mean nothing, they collect at least 5-10 per night and sift through them the next day
- ensure your logistics are on point for all of the above


e) become a promoter

- just look up Christian McQueen's posts, he summarizes it well



You would have to waterboard me to convince me to willingly go and get bottle reservation at any given club. You will meet shallow people spending money to impress others all day long.

The bottle life style should be a result of the rest of your lifestyle. I get invited to these now and prefer to not go as it's counter productive; not the best way to spend your time and weekends.

If you do it purely to get laid, it will inflate your expectations and be a very hollow experience. If you have the money and enjoy this, then go for it.

Paging Distant Light for this one as this is his domain.
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#41

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I thought Newbie Forum was for newbies to STFU and learn from more experienced players, guess things have changed.

Unless you're a celebrity you're always going to be on the back foot with these girls. Since you're not, THEY are the situational alphas while you're in their territory. You're just a mark. So you need to spark their interest and engage.

If you have friends, try 'celebrity game'. They all act like your entourage - the big guy in your circle is your bodyguard, and the others get you drinks, talk to the girls, etc. I used to do this with my best mate and it worked wonders. These girls aren't selected for their brains, you know. Or you could try 'bouncer game' - if you're jacked and can pull it off, wear black trousers and a white shirt (bow tie off and top button opened, keep a bow tie on your pocket in case you're questioned.) You're a bouncer who's just finished his shift elsewhere, and are looking for a drink and a chat. They can engage with that as they know bouncers and see them as alphas, so you're alpha by extension. You can talk to them easily that way as it removes the customer/staff nature of the interaction you're one of them, as it were.

The key thing is, you need to spark her interest in the club, but make your moves elsewhere so she loses her status. Also, take a ribbing from more established members, they're just vetting you. Only the strongest can enter our tribe!
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#42

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Nior, thank you for your guide and suggestions. Honestly, I’ve been building my network in the entertainment industry. I’m befriending promoters, bouncers, servers, etc. I feel like I can get in most clubs atleast if I’m there before 12, after that I’ll have to contact promoters that are buddies of mine to get into certain places.

I’ve always dressed good, nothing too flashy but since I’m 6’3 I just get fitted clothes. I always try to put on a mix between bad boy and urban look/style.

I’m honestly the nicest guy ever! I treat everyone with kindness and respect. All of the older forum members that have met me, would say I’m a good kid [Image: biggrin.gif].

I’m starting to think it might be my Game but bitches won’t even let me go past the 3 minute mark. Look at this example from last Saturday:
A really hot chick stepped on my boots, and walked past me while staring at me with a smile.
So I said: Hey, shouldn’t you be saying sorry (smiling)
Her: Well, I didn’t mean to step on your boots and then she said while I’m rolling my eyes (she literally said that, guess she means she did it on purpose for my attention)
Me: Well you got them all dirty, you kinda owe me new boots
Her: Haha you’re very rude
Me: Ya, so let me guess you’re Italian
Her: Yeah! How did you know
Me: I’ve been around, also your Mediterranean features
Her: Oh really
Then she goes back to her friend and looks at me LOL. Keep in mind, I didn’t smell bad, or have bad breath or do anything stupid.

I honestly believe part of the problem is these bitches want me to chase, but I never chase. I just move on to the next hottie in the club, since HONESTLY many of them are always looking at me. But something is fuckin weird, it’s like they are making it very hard for me.

Friday: I get approached by a 20 year old spanish girl. Hot as hell! She grinds on me, turns around, we make out. Asks my age, I said guess, she said 24. I said naah 26, she tell me you’re too old for me and then leaves me. WTF!

Second approach friday: A drunk and sexy canadian chick. She was eyeing me, so I just grabbed her hand and pulled her to me. She started grinding, her hands on my dick, etc... Later some loser and his buddies with bottle service invites her and her friends to their table for free drinks. They were drinking the rest of the night till they left those losers without anything. That shit pissed me off, I lost a tonne of bitches because guys would offer them free drinks. This happens to me most of the times, because I usually approach 8+ and these are usually the girls all the guys throwing money want.

Many similar situations last weekend.

I wish I can just get those simple artsy/hipster girls that are down to earth. I’m tired of these club hoes. I have no idea how to get into their social circles and where to meet them.

Finally, I DONT want to get bottle service, I was just throwing ideas out there. I hate that shit!
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#43

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Quote: (10-17-2017 08:09 PM)NKD Wrote:  

Papaya it is true that resources are limited, we are bound by the physical world. No matter what you want or believe there is no such thing as infinite money. There is no such thing as infinity except in numbers, we don’t even know if the universe is endless or not. Since NASA stopped going to the moon, we know nothing about the outside world.

Anyways back to the money topic. When you have more money then as a consequence another person will have less, unless we live in eutopia where everything is shared equally.

That is life, like I said, it’s a rat race. It’s more like the animal kingdom (survival of the fittest). We all want to be the best looking, the richest, the most likable and whenever we push forward with our goals we take a larger share of the pie. Lets say you’re a world class pickup artist, the more bitches you will attract and less for other guys. Another example: Top 20% of men on tinder are having their fair share of women while the other 80% are not even getting the fatties. I’m not sure if the percentages are accurate but it makes total sense.

We have a choice I believe. Either we dominate or be dominated. A third choice would be to let go of all desires such as greed, lust, search for hierarchy, dominance, jealousy, changing the truth for ones own benefit, vanity, materialism, the self preservation of self and kin and getting obsessed with work/career. They sound very similar to the 10 commandments but imagine if we become free of such. We wouldn’t suffer as we would open up our minds to what is our true purpose. We would see that everything we fight for on a daily basis is meaningless, I’m also guilty and a slave to my instincts/desires that will take me nowhere after I’m dead.

Even after that knowledge, I still fuck up. Someone here was complaining about me bashing Islam, however, when you are born a muslim and brainwashed for your whole life. Once you figure out it’s all bullshit, you’d feel cheated and robbed of your time and efforts.

I talk too much lol

@Striking, yo man I love artsy girls. My problems with them is that I’m very different and not the artsy type at all. Last two artsy girls I’ve met, took them out but never worked out. I wish I knew how to break into their social circles.

I also like small town girls, they’re freaky in bed and some of the most fun girls I’ve met. My favourite btw, I guess I like either really simple girls or hardcore sluts equally.

OP you hold some flawed thinking which is limiting you from moving forward. There is unlimited potential value which the human mind can create and money is only a reflection of that. More and more and more wealth can be created and there is no natural limit. If I create a new idea and make money from it it does not "take" value from elsewhere. More value exists.

I find it ironic and a little funny that you have these beliefs and then put yourself in a place where indeed value is * artificially * limited for the express purpose of emptying your wallet: the nightclub. Let me explain. The club scene is meant to create scarcity, long lines, tables, taken hotties, position inside, etc. The scarcity causes you to want to aspire to that which looks desirable. You either rise to the occasion and spend spend spend or just languish in the lust for the hotties that ignore you.

In life you believe that value is limited and obtained by domination (theft) and at night you believe that it is the bottle service girl who represents your aim, but you cant achieve it. Not to mention you are focusing on the employees who are not there to meet low rollers.

If I were you I would look for some new programming in order to achieve new results. The argumentative attitude isn't helping. And for even more irony you are arguing with men who have money and get laid.

Each of the interactions with girls you describe were already already answered by the first reply from Cobra. Get your shit together. To do that, you will have to change your belief system such that value is created not taken. Until then, those bottle hotties you call 9s which I am sure are at least 6s or 7s to be fair, will remain a limited commodity to you.
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#44

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There is a natural limit to weatlh (depends on how you define it), money and everything in this world. However, I do agree the human mind is infinite. If you create something of value and make money, you are doing something that most people will not do and thus you grow financially and take a larger piece of the pie. Its very simple to understand, there is no such thing as limitless/infinite money. But yes! More value exists but it will never be infinite. We are bound by the physical world.

I don’t spend shit at clubs, I pre-drink. I also rarely use online, every two weeks or so I would swipe on tinder. However, I love approaching girls in person. I understand the club scene is a waste of time, but it’s fun.

I’m trying to get my shit together, opening an online business soon, next week or the one after. Applying for jobs all day and night, improving technical skills, changing resume to fit the jobs I apply to, researching the most successful men to find out how the fuck they made it! Thinking of going back to school, or do something to get my shit together. Im just in a fucked up situation.
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#45

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@NKD and your approaches.

You are right, your game isn't as tight as it could be.

Example 1-

If you are a bad boy, you don't need to announce it. They will assume it based off your behavior. No need for "I have been around".

Girls hear chumps say that all the time, trying to break into a higher league. That sets off alarm bells.


Example 2-

When a girl asks you what age you are, it's usually the age she wants you to be. Just say 'no shit, you're good. what star sign am I?'.

Literally, all you have to do is agree and amplify. It's her 'bid' on what age she wants you to be for her to go for you. This works with girls who are significantly younger or older than you where it can be considered as a social faux-pas to be dating/fucking a guy outside their age bracket.


Example 3-

She is a gold digger and those guys supplicated. Thank them for doing you a favour and saving you the time and bill.

Next.


You want artsy/hipster girls?

Go take an art class. Hang out at galleries and juice bars. Niche coffee shops where the barista has tattoos, flesh tunnels and a manicured beard. On the metro. At your nearest campus. Health stores.

I personally don't like to select a niche, I hit on any woman as it only builds my woman-fu.

Fake it till you make it doesn't cut it anymore, guys have more game/resources and women have higher expectations.

Focus your shit accordingly.
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#46

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Quote: (10-20-2017 03:11 AM)Noir Wrote:  

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This man here knows what he's talking about.

But I'd disagree on getting bottles. It's status and if you can combine it with game and looks, it's game, set and match. Will you attract a bunch of bottle rats and gold diggers? Sure. But they won't know what hit them when they're at your table. Sometimes you can still pull a proportion of those although this might not even be desirable.


NKD, sounds like you need more IDGAF attitude. Now this is way easier said than done and requires A LOT; LOT; LOT of experience. I'm not even there myself yet but I know those types of situations. You still allow yourself to get frustrated, so you lose your IDGAF attitude and then when the situations compound it annoys you even more. Been there, done that, still happens to me. Especially when you have a thing for these bad bitches it's a major annoyance. Nothing else I can recommend than going out there and doing it all over again. Remember that one time you swooped a girl in the bathroom and went back out and truly didn't give two shits about what would happen? That's the mindset you're looking for on a constant basis. Easy to say, hard to do.
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#47

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Nior, you are very right and thanks again. I did try to show off by saying “I’ve been around” and did it seem like I was a try hard. But minor mistake would do that?

With the younger spanish girl, I have no idea why I was honest about my age. I’ve pulled girls that were 18-20 and I’ve always lied about my age as I look younger (I get ID’d when buying cigs and alcohol 90% of the time). That was my bad but since she was very aggressive and sexual I didn’t think it would matter, guess I was wrong.

Anyways learning from my mistakes and will continue to develop. I guess some people here actually have something useful to share!

Icrus, it’s true I do get frustrated. Kills my game as I reach the end of the night. I’m working on the IDGAF attitude which I will eventually obtain.

I’m also an Arab unlike indians/asians, girls seem to think I’m an asshole as a first impression. It’s like the extreme opposite, I’ve had girls reject me just based on that fact and they would be honest about it lol.

Hell last time I approached a cute Russian chick, her questions were like “how come you drink, isn’t it against your beliefs?”, “Do you still think Arab culture is right, and do you follow it”, , “Do you hate jews?”, “Do you only marry virgins?” [Image: biggrin.gif]. That shit makes me have to break so many barriers just to get her to accept that I wont kill her or beat her up after I fuck her. I got her number and we met later on but damn they dont make it easy at all. I don’t ever let it get to me, I’m proud of my background and parents and I like being an Arab since we are very different. So that doesn’t affect my game unless a girl would be like “I dated an Arab and I’ll never do it again”, “You guys are assholes”, etc.

However, girls that are 6 and below are very easy but that’s for most dudes outside Tinder, Bumble, etc..

If anyone is in Toronto and willing to meetup or nightgame PM me. Great time guaranteed!
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#48

How do I get bottle service girls and models at clubs?

Quote: (10-25-2017 02:50 PM)NKD Wrote:  

If anyone is in Toronto and willing to meetup or nightgame PM me. Great time guaranteed!

NKD, exactly which venues are you trying this at? Pulling at Toronto clubs can be challenging on it's own given that so many girls are taken, from the suburbs with a group of cockblocking friends, or otherwise unavailable for one reason or another. The hottest girls are getting hit on nonstop so of course their shields are on maximum. Unless you have some really obvious indicator of status or social proof you have zero chance.

That being said, I'd happily split a bottle with you sometime if you'll pretend to be my personal bodyguard. A bottle is what, $400? If you can't afford half of that you can't afford to run with these girls anyway; $200 is just a regular night out on king west.
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#49

How do I get bottle service girls and models at clubs?

NKD, just make an action plan.

Forget about bottle service because the girls there are predators and will squeeze you for every dime you got and you won't know better.

Hit up girls everywhere you see.

Ugly girls? Hot girls? Any kind of woman of any age, religion, whatever.

Flirt, smile, practice.

See how hot girls and regular girls respond differently to different kinds of game.

Learn how disarming a cheeky smile can get.

Figure out the basics of body language.

Have fun and make them feel comfortable with you.

I repeat, every single woman you see.

You can't jump into the top league without doing some time in the lower divisions.

Get familiar with girls and spending time with them and the rest will follow.

I remember when I was starting out, I printed out an A4 paper which said OUTCOME INDEPENDENT above my desk in my room.

Don't anticipate shit, just go have some fun and try to be aware of what's going on in the interaction. Direct it to where you want it to go.

You will know when your game is tight but appreciate every single woman (to whatever extent you can).

Oh and most importantly, move the fuck out of Toronto if you want to maintain a good relationship between your dick and your sanity.

Every person I have met from Toronto has been a cuck deluxe, spinning shaming language and having a high pitch voice.

Hence the emphasis on smiling. Troll and enjoy. It's your screening mechanism for the girls who take themselves seriously and ones who are down for a good time.
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#50

How do I get bottle service girls and models at clubs?

Become a promoter in the club they work at or friends with the promoters.

All these girls bang the promoters or their friends.
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