[Treatmentgroup]

I think Roosh V said if you don't kiss at the end of a first date it's a bad sign.


1st date: no kiss, but went to her apartment.


2nd date: touched her a lot, grabbed her ass, her thighs, kissed her cheeks many times, we walked holding hands... I kissed her lips kind of.. and she stuck her tongue..but didn't make out with her... went to her apartment again but she didn't let me do anything.


Both were at bars.


Maybe my kiss was..wrong.. and she realised I was relatively inexperienced..?


What should I do 3rd date?


Also.. and I don't think it was my imagination...she said ''next time'' when I was at her apartment.. but I'm wondering if my kissing could ruin it..

[YoungBlade]

Are you 12?

Don't worry about how she feels when you kiss. Just kiss her the way you want.

Wait a couple days.

[LINUX]

Ask after 27 hours, 37 minutes, and 14 seconds.

[Vladimir Poontang]

She's giving you mixed signals because she's not sure about you. Have you opened doors for her and complimented her? Have you bought her flowers? Women like that. Treat her like a princess, always be nice, and above all, just be yourself. Then one day perhaps you'll become her partner and she'll become your partner and you'll be partners. And don't listen to Roosh. He's a meanie.

[Noir]

Just for general purposes, agree on the 3rd date during the 2nd date.

Adds legitimacy for the bang, eases their mind about you ghosting and of course, makes it natural when the time to set another date comes.

Even if you don't bang on the second date. It's some stupid switch in their minds.

[Vill@in]

The only kissing she should be doing is kissing your ass goodbye.

You haven't even kissed her and it's coming up on the 3rd date. Most of us are going for the bang by then.

Take this experience and learn from it. Next time, build up for the kiss at the end of Date 1. Take some time and search the wealth of information on this board on how to do so. And forget she said 'Next Time'. Women will say anything in the moment. Don't believe it. I suggest going no contact and if she reaches out to you, then you can try a restart. If that happens go cave man on her and be ultra aggressive.

[Treatmentgroup]

(10-03-2017 08:50 AM)Vill@in Wrote:  

The only kissing she should be doing is kissing your ass goodbye.

You haven't even kissed her and it's coming up on the 3rd date. Most of us are going for the bang by then.

Take this experience and learn from it. Next time, build up for the kiss at the end of Date 1. Take some time and search the wealth of information on this board on how to do so. And forget she said 'Next Time'. Women will say anything in the moment. Don't believe it. I suggest going no contact and if she reaches out to you, then you can try a restart. If that happens go cave man on her and be ultra aggressive.

She's not american so maybe the culture is different.

[bgbusiness]

Todd from RSD said this in one of the videos.
"Trust that your dates/sets were good. Text them just next day or two days later, don't play mind game and don't over-game these girls."

[RatInTheWoods]

next day

[BadgerHut]

(10-03-2017 01:28 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

Todd from RSD said this in one of the videos.
"Trust that your dates/sets were good. Text them just next day or two days later, don't play mind game and don't over-game these girls."

^

Some parts of the game are strictly mechanical, like opening (as Roosh says, "just say the words") or asking to "use the bathroom." Same with lining up another date. If she had a good time she'll want to see you again. Assume the sale to yourself. Hang the offer out for her.

Skilled players work their magic in the attraction and comfort stages, with the push and the pull and evoking a cool lifestyle - they don't have any special tactics for requesting numbers or arranging dates. Stick with the script, don't try to get creative or psych yourself out.

[Catch 22]

Are people still in agreement about texting the next day for the next date?

I had two first dates that seemed to go pretty well, 3 or 4 hours and multiple makeouts, but no bangs. I texted the next day for #1, who is an Instagram 20,000+ plus follower girl, and was definitely getting a weaker vibe from her texts than before and she said "this week is crazy." #2 is more of a girl next door 21 year old who tries real hard because she thinks all the other girls are hot (she's probably one of the 20,000 followers) and I texted her earlier today and she hasn't responded (I sped it up because she's from out of town and is visiting her sister, so might not have that much time left in town).

I remember killing it in the early 2000's by waiting a week to call after a date. Made them uncomfortable, doubt themselves, and DHV for you. I realize it's different now, and that shit moves quickly and you have to strike when the iron is hot before they forget or just move on to someone else, but maybe we need to work in more of this old school "make them wait"? What do you all think?