[Mufasa]

(09-17-2017 07:57 PM)realologist Wrote:  

As long as you take a piss you're alright. No sperm in the precum. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of shit or they got the wrong father.

This is what I've read as well.
However if you cum, don't piss, and go for round two there will be sperm in the urethra and you're likely to have some sperm in your precum if you try round two.

[questor70]

My ex wife became a wife due to an accidental pregnancy. The accident was rhythm method with poor discipline. However, after I wifed her up, she refused to use birth control and I sort of normalized the pullout method. Not to brag or anything, but I evolved an ability to edge and go two and occasionally three times in direct succession. Things get messy. With her, I don't know how many times, but she'd tell me she was "late". For all I know she may have had one or more miscarriages. Luckily I got divorced before having a second child but I was always going through this dysfunctional cycle of complacency and spikes of anxiety with each monthly cycle. Women sometimes naturally have irregular cycles and when you're engaging in risky behavior like this it just adds needless stress to your life.

I had a similar situation occur later on. I started out initially using a condom and then almost immediately, almost by instinct, I stopped using it and she didn't say a word. She should have been on the pill but she was too low-income to afford it and I knew I wasn't the only guy she'd played it fast and loose like this with. At the end of her tryst she let me know she was "late" too. When she said that, both of us just had this moment of silence with deer in the headlights looks, and then we both sort of snapped ourselves out of it to try to not fixate and let time pass. She was pushing 40 and hadn't had any kids and was tomboyish enough that I suspected she either couldn't have kids or something about her made conception unlikely. I got word later that she finally did get her period.

Sex is supposed to be fun and anytime you're worrying about stuff, whether it be STDs or pregnancy, it takes away part of the fun.

I have never been in a relationship with a woman on the pill. But even there, you have to worry about them not taking it right. I've been with three different women who were either menopausal or had hysterectomies and other than the fact they were post-wall it was such a relief to be able to just fill them up with reckless abandon. I suppose part of the enjoyment of sex is performing the rituals of conception, but you want to have your cake and eat it too. I don't feel like I'm missing out that much knowing a woman can no longer get pregant.

[Ski pro]

If you're in a Ltr with a chick then you should be tracking her cycle. I load Mrs sp's on my phone complete with 'danger zone' for the 3 or 4 days before and 2 past ovulation and then 'angry emoji' for the 4 days before she's due her period. It's like a clock and a very useful predictor of female behaviour and how to game her at any given time of the month. The game never stops, even in a Ltr .

If you're tracking like this, it's almost impossible to get your Woman up the duff. You actually have to be fairly precise with the timing as she can only get pregnant on about 2-4 days a month.

I realise this is completely useless info for you fine gentlemen who are banging out all the bar and club sluts for the rest of us.

[RedPillUK]

I used the pullout method successfully with a girl in a long term relationship around 300-400 times, then I got her pregnant.

From those stats, that's less than a 1% chance of it happening, but if you're going to be fucking that many times, eventually it will probably happen, unless you're exceptionally lucky. Learn from my mistake.

[Mercenary]

(09-19-2017 11:57 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I used the pullout method successfully with a girl in a long term relationship around 300-400 times, then I got her pregnant.

Are you sure on that occasion she got pregnant, you didn't cum (ejaculate) inside her at least a little bit (like a half squirt or something similiar) or perhaps you still had some leftover sperm/semen from a previous orgasm earlier in the day ? (and didn't piss in between)

Also, you are 100% sure she wasn't seeing anyone else secretly ?


I'm not doubting your story....I just want to rule out all other possibilities.

[Kwisatz]

It doesn't matter! If you go the next 20 years without using condoms and then accidentally get one girl pregnant, all the previous joy goes out the window. It would never have been worth it, and you would gladly trade back all the raw dog sex in order to go back in time just long enough to change your mind and wear a condom.

I have seen this happen, sometimes to young men, sometimes to old players. They all end up in a terrible situation that takes all control out of their hands and puts it into a woman that was just another notch.

Even without considering a pregnancy, diseases are real. Don't drink your own kool-aid and think that some girls are "good/clean"girls because they seem that way to you. If you learn one thing on this forum it should be that anyone is capable of anything, depending on the circumstance.

Any man here can become a titan with enough influence. Alternatively, any woman will whore herself out with the right influence.

I influence "good" girls every day.

The risk vs. reward isn't worth it. Condoms, 100% of the time!

[Heart Break Kid]

I see a lot of people wash their dicks and pee for round 2. How long can sperm last when they're just chilling on your dick?

[Samseau]

(09-19-2017 11:57 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I used the pullout method successfully with a girl in a long term relationship around 300-400 times, then I got her pregnant.

From those stats, that's less than a 1% chance of it happening, but if you're going to be fucking that many times, eventually it will probably happen, unless you're exceptionally lucky. Learn from my mistake.

Who is to say you wouldn't have gotten her preggo had you used condoms the entire time? Condoms also have a 1% chance of failure which means if you fuck the same girl 300-400 times with condoms it's just as statistically likely as the pullout method as getting her preggo.

[mensch]

Not a myth. Believe me.

[Mercenary]

(09-21-2017 10:10 AM)mensch Wrote:  

Not a myth. Believe me.

Unless you elaborate, your post is totally useless.

[Denzel]

Hey RedPillUK,

Were you tracking her cycle? Did you use pull-out even when she was ovulating?

I came inside an ex-LTR around 100 times. I pulled out as it approached her ovulation period. I used condoms during her ovulation (three days before and three days after).

I would not do this with a woman whom I don't know well. As one poster said, the scare of pregnancy or STD takes away some of the pleasure.

(09-19-2017 11:57 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I used the pullout method successfully with a girl in a long term relationship around 300-400 times, then I got her pregnant.
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[YoungBlade]

@Samseau

No shit they're the same. Might as well rawdog if the ratio is the same.

[Player_1337]

Pulling out is fun, but I wear condoms for the STD protection.

[realologist]

I don't care what the rates say. They are bull shit. If you do pull out on point and tight you won't get a chick pregnant if you piss between nuts. Those stats are from people busting just a little bit in there probably more than anything. If not I'm defying odds by how many times I've precummed in chicks. The only times I've gotten chicks pregnant is when I busted up in there.

[questor70]

"The only times I've gotten chicks pregnant is when I busted up in there."

With all due respect, unless those were intentional conceptions, I don't think people should be modeling their behavior on your advice.

[realologist]

(09-22-2017 03:38 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

"The only times I've gotten chicks pregnant is when I busted up in there."

With all due respect, unless those were intentional conceptions, I don't think people should be modeling their behavior on your advice.

I intentionally busted a nut in then a knew what would/could likely happen. Ive bought plan B plenty of times. Either way it doesn't really matter though because I know what it takes to actually get a chick pregnant and it sure ain't precum.

[Batman_]

You can get pregnant from precum if you've had a recent ejaculation with sperm still in your urethra.

Precum does not contain sperm on it's own. Withdrawal method does work in theory but most guys don't understand it.

[HungJohnson69]

Back in the day (10 years ago) I primarily used the pull-out method coupled with spermicides (capsules inserted in vagina).

Neither is very bulletproof alone, but I felt pretty confident using them together and never had any accidents.

As a bonus, spermicides MIGHT prevent STDs to some extent, but they can't make any such claims.

[Spartacus]

Girls can get pregnant from precum....

[Mikestar]

Question, I used a condom for the first time with a girl and I lost hardness. I want to do my girl raw but im not sure if she has any contraception, she is 18. Should I do it raw and pull out or is it not worth the risk?

[Mercenary]

(07-04-2018 10:08 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

Question, I used a condom for the first time with a girl and I lost hardness. I want to do my girl raw but im not sure if she has any contraception, she is 18. Should I do it raw and pull out or is it not worth the risk?

How much experience do you have using the pull out / withdrawal method ?
Have you managed to do it sucessfuly with at least 5 different girls ?

If you don't have excellent self control you'll bust inside her by accident and get her pregnant.

Also, remember, if you already ejaculated (even into a condom) then you need to piss before going in raw as there may be leftover cum inside your dick.

[Mikestar]

(07-04-2018 11:43 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 10:08 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

Question, I used a condom for the first time with a girl and I lost hardness. I want to do my girl raw but im not sure if she has any contraception, she is 18. Should I do it raw and pull out or is it not worth the risk?

How much experience do you have using the pull out / withdrawal method ?
Have you managed to do it sucessfuly with at least 5 different girls ?

If you don't have excellent self control you'll bust inside her by accident and get her pregnant.

Also, remember, if you already ejaculated (even into a condom) then you need to piss before going in raw as there may be leftover cum inside your dick.

I have no experience using the pull out method and I am pretty inexperienced with banging but I have control, I am also 19 and cannot imagine getting my girl pregnant, it would be a catastrophe. However, all of my friends who are more experienced say they never use condoms and pull out, so maybe I should go raw and give her a pill the morning after?

[Mercenary]

(07-04-2018 12:06 PM)Mikestar Wrote:  

I have no experience using the pull out method and I am pretty inexperience with banging but I have control, I am also 19 and cannot imagine getting my girl pregnant, it would be a catastrophe. However, all of my friends who are more experienced say they never use condoms and pull out, so maybe I should go raw and give her a pill the morning after?

Who's to say she will actually be happy to take that pill when the time comes ?

Based on your young age and lack of experience I do not reccomend going raw at all until you practice your own self control. Have sex with her with a condom each time on 5 different days and test your own self control.


Also, remember sex without a condom is more intense for the man, so even if you manage to control yourself with a condom, doing it without is even more challenging/dangerous.


Train yourself first (with different girls if possible) so you don't make mistakes you'll regret for years.

[2negative]

The likelihood of fertilization by preseminal fluid is extremely small. First, precum acts to flush out any urinal residue remaining in the urethra, which is toxic to sperm.

Secondly, while it only takes one sperm cell to fertilize an egg, it take massive numbers of sperm cells to actually reach the egg. This is because the sperm cells work as a team, forming progressively long hollow tubules to shield the guys in the center from the harsh environment of the vagina. The sperm cell that gets to the end of the tubule when it has reach the egg gets the honor. I’ve seen video of this phenomenon and it’s quite fascinating.