[xsplat]

After a string of girls who I introduced to the dominance/submissive dirty talk, it was my habit and what popped out of my mouth with any girl I was fucking. "You little slut". Most girls like it. Especially if you ramp it up slowly, escalating from her cues.

The girl I'm with now absolutely couldn't stand me calling her "daughter" when I got excited. Most girls like it from the get go. Took this one over a year just to tolerate it. Now, finally, she associates it with erotic paternalism, and melts inside. But I don't even bother teaching her how to be my personal whore.

So I think most girls like that kind of extreme dominance, and can be taught to like it, but there are the odd few who aren't going to go there.

[Giovonny]

(07-27-2012 03:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-07-2011 08:59 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It really doesn't heighten my pleasure to call a girl "bitch" or "slut" or "whore", so I don't use them. I like the girl to have some value in my eyes, otherwise it's like "Dude, Samseau, why are you fucking a worthless slut?" Even though I know she really is a slut, it's not something I want to consciously say out loud.

I don't mind using the words "nympho", "horny girl", or "sex fiend", however.

It's funny how I'm not the same man I was less than a year ago.


I now insult girls however I want to, and particularly enjoy degrading them.

Interesting..

What caused this change???

[deepcov3r]

(07-27-2012 11:57 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 03:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-07-2011 08:59 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It really doesn't heighten my pleasure to call a girl "bitch" or "slut" or "whore", so I don't use them. I like the girl to have some value in my eyes, otherwise it's like "Dude, Samseau, why are you fucking a worthless slut?" Even though I know she really is a slut, it's not something I want to consciously say out loud.

I don't mind using the words "nympho", "horny girl", or "sex fiend", however.

It's funny how I'm not the same man I was less than a year ago.


I now insult girls however I want to, and particularly enjoy degrading them.

Interesting..

What caused this change???

This is funny because I learned from a porn film, a semi-amateur one. There was a Mexican woman in it who liked be humiliated and insulted, etc.

Eventually one of the guys in the film asked her "Why do you like that?" and she quickly answered "I don't know."

It was clear how fast she answered she'd thought about it and just couldn't figure it out.

This kind of thing is so complicated, with evolutionary features going back hundreds of millions of years that I've taken the position that it doesn't matter WHY you like whatever ( unless it's some dangerous shit you've got to stop like liking illegal things).

It only matters to be honest with yourself and find chicks who like similar things or can teach you something else you'll like.

GETTING what you want is difficult enough without trying to figure out why you want it.

[Samseau]

(07-27-2012 11:57 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 03:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-07-2011 08:59 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

It really doesn't heighten my pleasure to call a girl "bitch" or "slut" or "whore", so I don't use them. I like the girl to have some value in my eyes, otherwise it's like "Dude, Samseau, why are you fucking a worthless slut?" Even though I know she really is a slut, it's not something I want to consciously say out loud.

I don't mind using the words "nympho", "horny girl", or "sex fiend", however.

It's funny how I'm not the same man I was less than a year ago.


I now insult girls however I want to, and particularly enjoy degrading them.

Interesting..

What caused this change???

Wish I knew. I don't particularly hate women or enjoy seeing them suffer, but I like sex that borders on total domination BDSM, and calling them dirty names gives me a sense of power.

[gandt]

I really wanted to make a new thread on "dirty talk" but I figured this thread would suffice.

This is an area I have been exploring a lot lately. When I first started out having sex in highschool I abided by the typical notion of:

"men should be stoic in bed and never show emotion or make sound"

I have now grown past that and have incorporated a unique approach to dirty talk and an aggressive style in bed.

Stage 1: Pre-Sex

The aggressive actions I use to really shut her brain off are as follows:

*Pulling her hair back and holding her head firmly tilted backward

From there you can proceed to bite her neck, sensually kiss her neck, pull her face toward you and make out. Whatever you choose to do next, it let's her know you are the fuckin boss.

*Picking her up and have her straddle me

I always do this and this is how I move the interaction to the bed. It is so much more powerful than simply taking her hand and guiding her to the bed.

*Choking

I actually enjoy doing this before the clothes come off. It gives them a nice little preview of what to expect from me and gets them excited for what comes next.

*Ass grabbing (ass slapping comes later)

While making out grab her ass with both of your hands firmly. You can always give small playful ass slaps but i like to leave that for actual sex when I pull out the real rough stuff.

Stage 2: Sex

*Blow Job

Aggressively tell her to suck your dick. When you get your pants off bring it up to her face and say "suck my cock" or "I want to watch you suck my cock"

Other things you can say:

"you like how that dick tastes?"

"you like that sick in your mouth don't you?"

I really like using easy to answer questions like this because it is easy for the girl to comply and respond with a moan or a simple "UH HUH" as I am fucking her.

*Fucking

Pre Fuck -

Before you put it in say to her: "do you want my dick inside you?". She will say "yes" and beg and moan.

The next thing I do here is tell her: "say it", "say you want my dick inside you". THIS WILL MAKE HER GO INSANE!

At the end of her sentence "I want your dick inside me", fuck the shit out of her.

Mid Fuck -

During sex I will continue to say things like "your tight pussy feels so good on my dick" or again with the questions like "you like it when i fuck your little pussy hard like that?"

Or switching positions: "I want to see you ride my big dick" or "you want me to fuck you from behind?"

Others:
"You like it when I slap your ass like that?"
"Tell me how good my dick feels inside you"

Finishing -

I personally like finishing inside girls so my lines are as follows:

"I'm going to fill your little pussy up with cum"
"Im going to cum inside you"
"You want me to cum inside your tight little pussy?"

While doing all of my aggressive talk and behaviour I make sure to make my girls feel very safe and secure.

This can be done by making sure they feel secure both physically and verbally.

* As I tend to ABSOLUTELY POUND the girls I fuck, they often bleed the first time and are very sore. So I often ask if they are okay, to insure I haven't hurt them too much.

*Physically, the only thing I can describe it as is the MMA ground game grasps, where you firmly hold her her (not crushing her) but holding her as if nothing will happen to her. This make them feel both safe and turned on at the same time.

If anyone else has other finishing favorite lines (facials, etc..) I would be interested to hear them!

I hope this post can revive this thread to hear more about how other dominate and treat their women like sex slaves.

[Matt3B]

Choking is boss. I was fucking a girl in the spoon position the other day and then started choking her. It got her moaning and groaning more, and I tightened my grip a little and she was coming within 10 seconds, it's really powerful.

I like the bit where you said to tell them to say they want your dick inside them, I'm gonna use that one. I get the standard "I want you inside me" sometimes when we're fooling around but that's the next level. Nice one.

[Nascimento]

Great post, gandt. I think the biggest thing here is that most girls are not used to getting this degree of sexual talk. Sure, a girl who is very sexually active and has been with a double digit number of dudes has probably experienced some of it, but not to this extent. And oddly enough, the few girls I have had and tried this on, it's worked amazing.

Basically the guidelines to follow with sex talk I believe is to avoid asking, and to avoid saying things that sound 'cute'. That means to tell her things, and to avoid saying words such as 'boobs, breasts, vagina, penis, butt'.

Even if she doesn't comply when you tell her to do something, its fine as long as you didn't ask.

'I want your sexy lips around my dick' as opposed to 'can you suck my dick for me?'

The last girl I was with denied giving me a blowjob during sex, and I still kept up my dominant frame and fucked her good, with some dirty talk. The next time I saw her, I didn't even have to mention a blowjob, she knew I'd like it and gave it to me.

One other thing. In bed, maybe between different positions, don't ever move towards her. Grab her by her legs and forcefully pull her towards you. The smaller the girl is, the better the effect. The first time you do this she might even show a slight expression of fear, but at the same time you can see how much that aroused her.

Having said that, choking and slapping is something I still have to experiment with.

[Sphere]

(09-10-2011 08:05 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

(09-07-2011 09:14 PM)guey Wrote:  

As far as sex goes, ALL girls like to be pushed a little. No way do you start out rough, but you should push the envelope more and more and learn her body language. You'll get an understanding of what's too much and what's just right.

Always push the envelope, little by little. Eventually, you'll have yourself a trained little whore. Some sooner than others.

Another quoted for truth.

Yesterday, I was banging one of my two married babes, and I started doing the dominance thing. Throwing her around putting her into positions when I wanted to, a bit of choking from time to time, a bit of face slapping, really exerting my superior strength -- but nothing that would injure her (I would of course never injure any female, ever).

It was a wild afternoon of tremendous sex.

After it was over, she said..."I love how you dominated me. I know you'd never hurt me, but I got lost in the possibility."

There it is, gentlemen. The sweet spot.

Here is my philosophy of women. All women who want sex have desires that scare them a little. Why they are scared is unclear but may be societal conditioning or something else we don't yet understand. It doesn't matter. All that matters is that it's true. This is something I use to put them at ease. I assure them that I understand that they have these desires and that it's safe to explore them with me because I don't judge.

The other thing that I tell them is also true. All women who want sex want to be dominated by a strong man. I then tell them the difference between good girls and bad girls and this further puts them at ease. I tell them that good girls want to be dominated by a man that they trust, and bad girls want to be dominated by a man they don't trust. This serves two purposes. It lets them know what is going to happen and sexualizes the conversation deeply and it reassures them that I am a man they can trust and that therefore they are one of the good girls.

[RouteBackwards]

(09-07-2011 07:35 PM)houston Wrote:  

I believe the average guy doesn't get down like this with lizards. Do y'all think the average bitch enjoys this or is turned off? I'm talking about saying shit like "suck my dick bitch" and giving her a slap or 2 while pulling her hair. I think I'm going to start this on the first fuck with every new girl but it might make them like I've only had a few girls tell me they want me to do this. The rest were discovered and then abused.

I ask her in a very soft, almost-whiny, tone, "Babysnuggums, can I please talk dirty to you?" and if she says no, I beg her to let me go down on her without reciprocation and tear up if she does not orgasm.

In the rare event that she does let me talk dirty to her, I make sure not to offend her and always reassure her that I'm only playing a role. "I want to do very dirty things to your pleasure hole! Are you ok? I'm not being serious snuggums, ok??" and proceed to escalate to dirtier and dirtier talk. Women love letting you talk dirty to them.

However, women want your dirty talk to be consensual, no matter what the patriarchy tells you. That is why I always make sure she is ok with what I am doing and saying.

[Giovonny]

(04-10-2013 07:00 AM)gandt Wrote:  

I abided by the typical notion of:

"men should be stoic in bed and never show emotion or make sound"

I have never heard of this..???

Who taught you this???

This is not "typical" in the area that I come from.

I was taught to express myself unapologetically.

(04-10-2013 07:00 AM)gandt Wrote:  

If anyone else has other finishing favorite lines (facials, etc..) I would be interested to hear them!

I have them say..

"Cum in my mouth daddy"
"Please cum all over my face"
"I want to swallow your cum"

Stuff like that.

I do alot of the same stuff that you do. But, instead of talking to them. I have them talk to me. I tell them what to say. I train them so they know what I like to hear..

I have them say:

"please fuck me"
"I wanna fuck"
"fuck me good"

And of course:

"you are my daddy"
"i wanna make you cum"
"take my pussy"
"my pussy is all yours"

Etc, etc, etc..

Of course, often times, I also tie them up and videotape the sex.

I feel like I'm sharing too much of my personal life. I feel vulnerable. Lol!!!

Most girls love this shit.

When I am spanking them, I have the say:

"i was a bad girl, i deserved to be spanked"
"thank you for spanking me daddy"
"thank you, i deserve this"

Also, sometimes when we are out shopping or eating, I will ask them..

"were you a bad girl this week"
"do you need a good spanking"

They say..

"yes daddy, i was bad, i need a spanking"
"sorry, i was bad"

It's hot when they start saying this stuff at 4pm on a Tuesday. Then, by 7:30pm, she is naked and tied down to the bed.

Too many guys are afraid to do this stuff. I consider it to be very natural and healthy. (most of the time)

Safely exploring and expressing your fantasies is good for you. Ignoring them and hiding from them leads to frustration and anxiety.

Let it out! Sex is the most natural thing that we can do.

[gandt]

(04-10-2013 02:45 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

I tell them that good girls want to be dominated by a man that they trust, and bad girls want to be dominated by a man they don't trust.

Adding this to my arsenal. Money.

[gandt]

(04-10-2013 02:58 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:00 AM)gandt Wrote:  

I abided by the typical notion of:

"men should be stoic in bed and never show emotion or make sound"

I have never heard of this..???

Who taught you this???

This is not "typical" in the area that I come from.

I was taught to express myself unapologetically.

I am referring back to highschool when people would always talk about sex girls would always mention the guys staying completely silent and stoic. Maybe it was a location or generation difference.

I'm not sure.

[tenderman100]

(04-10-2013 02:45 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

Here is my philosophy of women. All women who want sex have desires that scare them a little. Why they are scared is unclear but may be societal conditioning or something else we don't yet understand. It doesn't matter. All that matters is that it's true. This is something I use to put them at ease. I assure them that I understand that they have these desires and that it's safe to explore them with me because I don't judge.

The other thing that I tell them is also true. All women who want sex want to be dominated by a strong man. I then tell them the difference between good girls and bad girls and this further puts them at ease. I tell them that good girls want to be dominated by a man that they trust, and bad girls want to be dominated by a man they don't trust. This serves two purposes. It lets them know what is going to happen and sexualizes the conversation deeply and it reassures them that I am a man they can trust and that therefore they are one of the good girls.

For women, sex IS about submission, about allowing themselves to be vulnerable. It is a deeply seated evolutionary characteristic.

Think about. Men are stronger -- they can injure. Men PENETRATE. They penetrate with a hard object. They have to get inside soft internal tissue, arguably the tenderest part. For the woman, there is an internal conflict -- the vulnerability of the soft tissue and the intense pleasure that soft tissue feels.

And then there is the vulnerability of the consequences of the act. A child. Years of commitment from her, while the man can bust the nut, leave, and never come back.

So what is the best sex for women? When a man CONTROLS. With his words, with his body, with his interactions. The woman submits, and the submission is thrilling, because THAT IS WHAT A SEXUAL WOMAN MUST DO.

[Screwston]

Some girls ask if I'm ok when I start moaning loud lol. I think a lot of guys keep quiet and don't really get into it. I get like an animal when we're fucking though.

[Hotwheels]

I'm not vocal at all unless I have a wargasm.

I do fuck them well however. A lot of the younger girls say they have never been fucked like that.

Of course they haven't. They've only been with a few guys, all of whom were inexperienced.

It's amazing how many have never had their hair pulled.

And, how many of them fucking love it.

[guerrilla]

"You were built to suck my cock."

[gandt]

(04-29-2013 11:15 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I'm not vocal at all unless I have a wargasm.

I do fuck them well however. A lot of the younger girls say they have never been fucked like that.

Of course they haven't. They've only been with a few guys, all of whom were inexperienced.

It's amazing how many have never had their hair pulled.

And, how many of them fucking love it.

I was talking to this girl about how 90% of the guys she has been with have always been so gentle in bed and ask her things like "does that feel good?"

Meanwhile she just wants them to fuck the shit out of her, slap her around, etc...

Pretty shocking to hear.

Women want to be dominated.

Oh, and that's why she said she prefers black guys in bed.

[The Pirate]

Dirty talk is one of the reason why I prefer to have a regular rather than one-night stands. It feels akward and might lead to a full stop calling a girl names and go crazy with her if she is a stranger. However you can cross the line with regulars to. I once said to one "I am gonna fuck you hard you whore of Satan" (in norwegian) while i fucked her from behind. After a brief stop to discuss that line, I could get back to work if I just cut out Satan.

[gandt]

I have socially conditioned a girl to beg for my cock

I got her on her knees and asked her:

Me: "do you want to suck on my cock?"

Her: "yes, please let me suck on your cock"

Me: "how bad do you want my cock in your mouth"

Her: "so fucking bad... please let me suck on it"

She was almost orgasming from the dirty talk.

Things you can say to her:

- "Say it again"
- "Ask politely"
- "Say please"

[Lights]

once a philosophy grad told me my dirty talk was crass. never got over that because it struck some chord with me

[gandt]

(04-30-2013 10:14 AM)Lights Wrote:  

once a philosophy grad told me my dirty talk was crass. never got over that because it struck some chord with me

This was a philosophy grad you were banging?

Should have taken it up another level by slapping her ass and telling her not to talk back to you ever again.

[AneroidOcean]

I'm right about where Giovonny and gandt on this one.

I want to explore more with getting her to say what I want, especially calling herself my slut and telling me that her pussy is mine. It's so damn fun and you guys are right, they almost all love it.

"I'm not vocal at all unless I have a wargasm."

This was possibly the best line of the thread so far, though. Right there with you, Hot Wheels. I really don't make much noise unless I'm telling them what to do or talking dirty to them. Only the wargasm. Fuck, that makes me laugh so hard. Wargasm!

(One of the reasons I try to be quiet myself is because my place is old so the walls are thin and I figure I don't care if I hear the girl, but I don't really want to hear the guy moaning or anything so I try to follow that myself)

[Nascimento]

A couple things that have been on my mind recently.

I usually have no problem with dirty talk and my dirty talk game is improving during sex. However, I don't have much to say when she is giving me head. I have a couple things but besides that there's not much else in mind. When I am fucking the spontaneous situation allows me to think up of whatever: depending on the position, how fast/hard I am going, how she is moaning, my current state.

But in terms of head, I don't have much to say. What do you guys do while you are lying there watching her suck you off?

And lastly, I have yet to cum on a girl's face/mouth. Usually I just finish on her tits and she welcomes it. Currently I am just banging one girl so I don't have much of a sample but one time I did try to on her face/mouth and she motioned me away and told me to just do it on her tits.

I feel like I could just be more aggressive and force her to take it the way I want it, but I'm not sure if there is a fine line you shouldn't cross when it comes to dirtiness during sex just yet.

[MrXY]

(05-07-2013 10:36 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I feel like I could just be more aggressive and force her to take it the way I want it, but I'm not sure if there is a fine line you shouldn't cross when it comes to dirtiness during sex just yet.

With a girl you don't know well yet, just keep ramping it up gradually and gauge her reactions-her vocalizations, body language, the look in her eyes, her pussy wetness-you can tell whether she likes it or not.

You can push it much farther with most girls than you would believe.

And do it the first time very important-this forms the girl's view of your sexual prowess.

I've girls I just met a few hours before and pulled their hair, slammed them against the wall,dragged them by their ankles, slapped them, choked them, grabbed their hair and shoved my dick in their mouth and so on. I've never had a truly bad reaction-at most they say "uh I don't like that" about some specific move so I stop doing it. But even these girls are down for other things

Being alpha with her from the start is important though- you can't come across a nice guy and then go caveman on her in the bedroom. I'm not saying go all sexual on the date- I'm saying she should be able to surmise from your persona on the date what you will be like to fuck so she can make a decision about whether that's something she wants or not.

[Nascimento]

(05-07-2013 10:59 AM)MrXY Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 10:36 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I feel like I could just be more aggressive and force her to take it the way I want it, but I'm not sure if there is a fine line you shouldn't cross when it comes to dirtiness during sex just yet.

With a girl you don't know well yet, just keep ramping it up gradually and gauge her reactions-her vocalizations, body language, the look in her eyes, her pussy wetness-you can tell whether she likes it or not.

You can push it much farther with most girls than you would believe.

And do it the first time very important-this forms the girl's view of your sexual prowess.

I've girls I just met a few hours before and pulled their hair, slammed them against the wall,dragged them by their ankles, slapped them, choked them, grabbed their hair and shoved my dick in their mouth and so on. I've never had a truly bad reaction-at most they say "uh I don't like that" about some specific move so I stop doing it. But even these girls are down for other things

Being alpha with her from the start is important though- you can't come across a nice guy and then go caveman on her in the bedroom. I'm not saying go all sexual on the date- I'm saying she should be able to surmise from your persona on the date what you will be like to fuck so she can make a decision about whether that's something she wants or not.

Would it be fair to assume that if a girl is down to keep seeing you for sex (either when you initiate or she does), that you are being 'alpha' enough sexually?