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I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family
#1

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

So my most respected uncle said last Christmas party "I don't like people who are quiet and sit there by themselves" to my whole family trying to take a dig at me.

And the same uncle spoke to me aggressively the other day saying "my Aunty wants to talk to me".

What the fcuk? How dare he speaks to like that, in an almost shouting way.

The rest of the uncle and aunties, well, they ignore and do not bother to acknowledge me.

What's worse if they make ignorant assumptions and gossip about me to other people about how I'm unfortunate in life.

If they bothered to acknowledge me and get to know me, I'm going to be running a business and going into a developer/programmer job with ambitions to be self employed in 2-3 years.

But they say I'm doing nothing and sitting at home wasting my life. And they start feeling sorry for me and making fun of me behind my back.

What's their problem?
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#2

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Fuck 'em and use that feeling to fuel your success. I've a mate like you. His father constantly put him down, told him to 'get a nice safe job with a firm like me'. Well Dad, you've had it easy all your life being a baby boomer. Two houses bought on an employed electricians wage- try that nowadays. Anyhow, my mate is doing OK nowadays hustling, buying and selling machinery, and he credits a lot of that to him wanting 'to prove the cunt wrong'.

They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety- Benjamin Franklin, as if you didn't know...
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#3

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Bro, all your threads are exactly the same, problems with your family.

We already told you several times what to do.

The advice hasn't changed.
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#4

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 11:56 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

Bro, all your threads are exactly the same, problems with your family.

We already told you several times what to do.

The advice hasn't changed.

At this point, it looks less like a cry for help, but a cry for attention.

In any case, OP, seek professional help (therapy/counseling) and get out of toxic situations as soon as possible. Concentrate on those two things first. Here speaks experience.

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If they bothered to acknowledge me and get to know me, I'm going to be running a business and going into a developer/programmer job with ambitions to be self employed in 2-3 years.

And stop bitching. That is not becoming of a man.
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I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 11:51 AM)Atom89 Wrote:  

So my most respected uncle said last Christmas party "I don't like people who are quiet and sit there by themselves" to my whole family trying to take a dig at me.

And the same uncle spoke to me aggressively the other day saying "my Aunty wants to talk to me".

What the fcuk? How dare he speaks to like that, in an almost shouting way.

The rest of the uncle and aunties, well, they ignore and do not bother to acknowledge me.

What's worse if they make ignorant assumptions and gossip about me to other people about how I'm unfortunate in life.

If they bothered to acknowledge me and get to know me, I'm going to be running a business and going into a developer/programmer job with ambitions to be self employed in 2-3 years.

But they say I'm doing nothing and sitting at home wasting my life. And they start feeling sorry for me and making fun of me behind my back.

What's their problem?

Earlier thread:
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Are my family haters?
I've started a mobile app business on the side and guess what 0 likes on Facebook from them, my uncle and aunts came to my house the other day and said no congratulations even though they are completely aware of it and no congratulations on the what's app family chat where they said congratulations to my other cousins and family members on their achievements or stuff they do.

Love to shut my two other uncles up who just makes assumptions based on me with no evidence.

Their is lot of things they have done in the past which my Aunty laughed at me when I start taking when the room went quiet and also other times.

I've come to the conclusion they don't like me and think low of me.

My most respected uncle said I can't get a preety women because I'm starting my career late at 28.

OP what background do you have (ethnicity, religion etc)?
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#6

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 02:48 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2017 11:51 AM)Atom89 Wrote:  

So my most respected uncle said last Christmas party "I don't like people who are quiet and sit there by themselves" to my whole family trying to take a dig at me.

And the same uncle spoke to me aggressively the other day saying "my Aunty wants to talk to me".

What the fcuk? How dare he speaks to like that, in an almost shouting way.

The rest of the uncle and aunties, well, they ignore and do not bother to acknowledge me.

What's worse if they make ignorant assumptions and gossip about me to other people about how I'm unfortunate in life.

If they bothered to acknowledge me and get to know me, I'm going to be running a business and going into a developer/programmer job with ambitions to be self employed in 2-3 years.

But they say I'm doing nothing and sitting at home wasting my life. And they start feeling sorry for me and making fun of me behind my back.

What's their problem?

Earlier thread:
Quote:Quote:

Are my family haters?
I've started a mobile app business on the side and guess what 0 likes on Facebook from them, my uncle and aunts came to my house the other day and said no congratulations even though they are completely aware of it and no congratulations on the what's app family chat where they said congratulations to my other cousins and family members on their achievements or stuff they do.

Love to shut my two other uncles up who just makes assumptions based on me with no evidence.

Their is lot of things they have done in the past which my Aunty laughed at me when I start taking when the room went quiet and also other times.

I've come to the conclusion they don't like me and think low of me.

My most respected uncle said I can't get a preety women because I'm starting my career late at 28.

OP what background do you have (ethnicity, religion etc)?

I'm an Indian guy, I'm not religious but my family are Hindu's.

They do expect me to be in career by 26, rather than 28. However, I'm quite ambitious anyway.
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I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 02:54 PM)Atom89 Wrote:  

I'm an Indian guy, I'm not religious but my family are Hindu's.

They do expect me to be in career by 26, rather than 28. However, I'm quite ambitious anyway.

So you're a 26 yr old, that is studying? Are your parents still providing for you?
Also did this thing with your uncle happen in his house or your house?
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#8

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 03:02 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2017 02:54 PM)Atom89 Wrote:  

I'm an Indian guy, I'm not religious but my family are Hindu's.

They do expect me to be in career by 26, rather than 28. However, I'm quite ambitious anyway.

So you're a 26 yr old, that is studying? Are your parents still providing for you?
Also did this thing with your uncle happen in his house or your house?

I'm a 28 year old seeking programmer/developer jobs.

I work in a warehouse to earn money until I get a job and my goals are to be self employed next year doing some mobile app, web app work.

This thing with my uncle happened at his house. My dad wasn't there either.
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I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 03:08 PM)Atom89 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2017 03:02 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Quote: (09-06-2017 02:54 PM)Atom89 Wrote:  

I'm an Indian guy, I'm not religious but my family are Hindu's.

They do expect me to be in career by 26, rather than 28. However, I'm quite ambitious anyway.

So you're a 26 yr old, that is studying? Are your parents still providing for you?
Also did this thing with your uncle happen in his house or your house?

I'm a 28 year old seeking programmer/developer jobs.

I work in a warehouse to earn money until I get a job and my goals are to be self employed next year doing some mobile app, web app work.

This thing with my uncle happened at his house. My dad wasn't there either.

If you don't like the way your uncle talks to you in his house. Leave.
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#10

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Here's a data sheet for indian newbies that have problems with their family:

If you live in the west, you are free to fuck off and leave your allegedly cunty family behind, never to hinder you again.

We move between light and shadow, mutually influencing and being influenced through shades of gray...
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#11

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

+1 one for the leave, become independent and teach them all a lesson bro.

Nothing worse than a whinnying pussy insulting the man who feeds you and puts a roof over your head.
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#12

I'm ignored and treating me like the black sheep of the family

Quote: (09-06-2017 03:21 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  

Here's a data sheet for indian newbies that have problems with their family:

If you live in the west, you are free to fuck off and leave your allegedly cunty family behind, never to hinder you again.

Which may well be the remedy for OP, but don't underestimate the power that family and your surroundings have on you.

My family was absolutely toxic, in the worst possible way: they were seemingly fine and loving, but behind closed doors, there was no affection between anyone, and my dad was narcissistic and mean - he would go out of his way to humiliate my mom, he was quick to shout and punish for the slightest transgression, set decency rules that would apply to everyone in the household but himself, but on the flip side, I can count on on hand the amount of times he was encouraging, uplifting or in any way congratulatory.

This doesn't sound terrible, which is exactly the problem. Living in these conditions through decades creates serious emotional issues that damage every aspect of your life, and when you realize its seriousness, havoc has already been wreaked.

But outside counsel, because things seem fine, has always been to stay close to the family and listen to them. I am 30 now, and only last year did I fully accept that they do not have my best interests at heart.

I wrote all that, because every time I share a bit of my story, it is cathartic and it helps a bit. But also to put things in perspective for people who have never gone through anything similar and think the solution is just to "man up" (which I tried to do throughout the whole thing, but in hindsight, I didn't even know how to do that).

That is where a community like this one, once properly sensitized to the issue, can really help. I have learned more about being a man through the Red Pill and books like Roosh's than through decades of living with my dad. But if young men don't feel welcome here because they aren't being understood, that's another life damaged and disempowered that could have otherwise become another strong man fighting for his life and helping set the world straight along the world along the way.
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