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Alternate Internet - Hyperboria, cjdns and LBRY
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Alternate Internet - Hyperboria, cjdns and LBRY

I noted this morning a story making the rounds of a person who had all of their Google services suspended without warning. According to the story, it is not even clear what his transgression was or why he was banned from all of his services.

One Statistics Professor Was Just Banned By Google: Here Is His Story
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21...-his-story

According to the story, his blog, email accounts and University web page that is hosted by Google were all shutdown.

What is unusual is the guy is a statistics professor so it is not clear what exactly he could have done to warrant such treatment or how they would target for shutdown his email accounts.

As one can imagine, many people need their email accounts to access services or get notifications from other companies so losing your email account could easily put someone out of business and ruin them, and Google does not even seem to have any reason for having done this.

I did some looking around and it looks like there are projects that put data and access away from the ability of any one person or organization to be able shut someone out of internet access.

Could You Make Your Own Internet?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnKMkX0qS3Y

Near the end there is disucssion about cjdns and hyperboria that would give one the ability to setup an alternate type of internet network and not have to worry about what Google or any company does since they would not have control over it.

It seems that LBRY would also need to be part of such a solution:
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Alternate Internet - Hyperboria, cjdns and LBRY

His last blog post before termination:

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This cat and James Damore need to hook up. Start a public advocacy campaign against censorship at Google and other SV firms.

Reminds me of the opening monolgue of Michael Clayton where one of the partners at a major law firm realizes the evilness of who he has been working for:






The time is now!

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Another:

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/google...site-share
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Don't we have like 3 threads on alt internet services already?

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Quote: (08-21-2017 07:00 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Don't we have like 3 threads on alt internet services already?

What they are proposing is not just another internet service, but a mesh type of network that could be used to replace the existing internet.

Right now even though there are all kinds of VPN or TOR services, if one company wants to delete or shutdown a web site registration or service, they are all done and there is nothing that can be done.

With a mesh type of network, there would be no one point controlling the network. The running of the network would be distributed over the machines connected to the network.

Right now, even though the existing internet promotes itself as being decentralized, there are a number of aspects that are centralized and controlled by one company or person.

The professor that had his email account shutdown and web pages taken down is an example of this. In reality he only has internet access while Google allows him to have access.

In a mesh network with Hyperboria, such a loss of internet services would not be possible since each user on the network would have control of their own services that no one could take away from them.

I can see the possibility that something like Hyperboria could eventually grow to the point where people would not need or use the current internet services and connect machines to each other on their own.

The main problem is what method to use to connect the machines since if you called up a provider and tell them that you want to setup a decentralized DNS set of servers they would probably tell you that you can't do that.

I think the future solution to this problem will be some kind of long range wireless setup where wireless connections would be in the range of miles and allow machine to machine wireless connection, avoiding any central ISP/Cable/Phone company from being able to prevent service.

The intermediate step to this would be to use existing ISP to connect the machine together, but then everything on those machines would run through a Hyperboria mesh network and no one (ISP/government/Google/etc) would be able to tell anything about the traffic, what was on the machine or what they would be doing.

No more DDoS attacks, no more having people running around trying to get places like paypal or ISP to stop providing service to anyone since no one would be able to tell what anyone was doing.
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Google Folds, Restores Accounts Of Banned Statistics Professor:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-22...-professor

While I am glad to see they restored his accounts and services, I still think there is a long term threat from companies like Google to anyone and everyone.

Google never stated what the problem is or why everything was shutdown. It looks like he got his service restored only because so many people were following what was going on and 'it didn't look good for Google', so they quietly restored service for him and hope that the whole incident will be forgotten; otherwise I think Google would have just continued on and started to shut down others they do not like or want to have internet access.

The problem long term is that Google and others will probably just try again at some point in the future and see if conditions have changed enough that they can get away with doing stuff like this.

It also seems to me that we need to ask the question of how many other people has Google already done this to (shut off all of their emails/web sites/domains) but no one knows about it because the people have no national presence or ability to get the word out, so Google gets away with steamrollering people and almost no one knows about it?
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Google is run by SJW's. It is not safe at all, get out of their control as much as possible.

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WSJ: Google refunding some ad money due to fake traffic:
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3291879-ws...email_link
https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-issu...ts_news_us

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The industry’s efforts to rein in fraud appear to have an impact.Some $6.5 billion in ad spending will be wasted this year to fraud, down 10% from 2016, according to a report released in May by the Association of National Advertisers and ad-fraud detection firm WhiteOps.

The methods the fraudsters use are highly sophisticated. Some infect unsuspecting consumers’ computers with malware to form a “botnet” that clicks on ads in the background.

Apparently, as smart as Google trys to portray the company to the rest of the world, they are still getting taken by click fraud. Google does not seem to want to admit how much there is, but one of the sources cited seems to put the number at several billion worldwide.
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Twitter alternative

Mastodon (software):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software)
Mastodon is a distributed, federated social network that forms part of the Fediverse, an interconnected and decentralized network of independently operated servers.

Has anyone here used this at all?

The main benefit would be that there is no centralized control over the instance, so there is no company like Twitter that can just shut someone off the network. Control of the instance of the software is completely with the creator of the feed.
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