[Ouroboros]

(08-15-2017 11:48 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

Have you actually ever been to these countries?

I have, yes. I can say without doubt that the women in Spain, in terms of their appearance, are more feminine than Australian women at least. From what I observed they tend to grow their hair, remain thin, and dress like women. I can count on one hand the number of obese or short-haired women I saw in eight months there (I wasn't living in a large city though). If you held a gun to my head and forced me to pick a wife from either Spain or Australia, I wouldn't hesitate to choose the former.

Perhaps in terms of attitudes/mentality you would find that Spanish women are masculine. But I didn't notice that; we may have to just agree to disagree there.

Yes there are reports of Spanish/Italian men going off to places like Poland for women but from what I understand that's because their women are difficult to bed and uninterested in one-night stands, not so much because they're masculine and undesirable.

I was speaking only in terms of the dating market. If you want to talk about the family law systems in those countries I can't comment at all since I know nothing about that topic.

[Ouroboros]

(08-15-2017 11:56 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

The only reason why it hasn't masculinized them is because an overwhelming female vote has assured rampant socialism which pretty much assured recurring economic hardship (see Venezuela right now). And as we all know, economic/social crisis breeds tough/masculine men and feminine women. If any of these countries ranked higher on the socio-economic scale their women would quickly turn into childless feminist bitches.

Are you saying that the female vote begets socialist government, which then destroys the economy, resulting in a favourable dating market due to conditions of hardship? So in a strange way, the female vote actually indirectly creates feminine women by wrecking the economy? If this were the case why doesn't New Zealand, the first country to give women the right to vote and also one of the first countries to embrace neoliberalism (an anti-socialist ideology encouraging privatisation and deregulation), have an especially socialist government or feminine women?

(08-15-2017 11:56 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you ;-)

Haha, not at all; nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-15-2017 05:34 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 11:48 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

Have you actually ever been to these countries?

I have, yes. I can say without doubt that the women in Spain, in terms of their appearance, are more feminine than Australian women at least. From what I observed they tend to grow their hair, remain thin, and dress like women. I can count on one hand the number of obese or short-haired women I saw in eight months there (I wasn't living in a large city though). If you held a gun to my head and forced me to pick a wife from either Spain or Australia, I wouldn't hesitate to choose the former.

Perhaps in terms of attitudes/mentality you would find that Spanish women are masculine. But I didn't notice that; we may have to just agree to disagree there.

Yes there are reports of Spanish/Italian men going off to places like Poland for women but from what I understand that's because their women are difficult to bed and uninterested in one-night stands, not so much because they're masculine and undesirable.

I was speaking only in terms of the dating market. If you want to talk about the family law systems in those countries I can't comment at all since I know nothing about that topic.

I found that gender-ratios have more of an impact in many such societies.

I can guarantee you that if there was some war in Australia and 30% of young men died off in the ages of 18-40, then you would not believe your eyes how quickly the oversupply of women would make the girls Down Under shape. Hairs would grow out, the women would be more pleasant, they would try to marry sooner and in addition they would probably start poaching the husbands of other women.

But who am I kidding - they would likely demonstrate for millions of Middle Eastern and African immigrants who can replenish the male loss of the evil White men.

[kosko]

Nobody talks about fiat money? Buying off the female vote with social programs was only made possible after dumping hard real money for fiat debt. Before, Govt was constrained and could not pander in such ways. Govt took a gamble that it would recoup spending via taxes from essentially "doubling" the tax base with women entering the workplace enmasse. This gamble was way off as women don't remain in the workforce as long, nor do they have the same productivity to males.

Everything went to hell when man got greedy and went away from contained and controlled money. It was all about savings prior versus debt now. Women got a big fat credit card and maxed it out essentially when they got hold of Govt purse.

Main Triggers of Decline::

Fiat debt

The Pill

Expansion of student loans (Liberal College was always full of trash since the 40s. More and more women getting exposed to that trash is the issue)

[Samseau]

(08-16-2017 02:38 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Nobody talks about fiat money? Buying off the female vote with social programs was only made possible after dumping hard real money for fiat debt. Before, Govt was constrained and could not pander in such ways. Govt took a gamble that it would recoup spending via taxes from essentially "doubling" the tax base with women entering the workplace enmasse. This gamble was way off as women don't remain in the workforce as long, nor do they have the same productivity to males.

Everything went to hell when man got greedy and went away from contained and controlled money. It was all about savings prior versus debt now. Women got a big fat credit card and maxed it out essentially when they got hold of Govt purse.

Main Triggers of Decline::

Fiat debt

The Pill

Expansion of student loans (Liberal College was always full of trash since the 40s. More and more women getting exposed to that trash is the issue)

It's already extremely difficult to get men to understand the evils of fiat. Good luck convincing women that our usury system is somehow worse than her not having a right to murder her foetus.

[Llama Deam]

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I could not agree with you more on this. You are correct, the more attractive, tall, athletic-built black woman is the one who grooms and dresses herself for the purpose of attracting a white male professional (WMP). If she lands her WMP, she gets stability and ability to support her family without the drama and struggle generally predominating black families – and he gets a much more loyal, generally younger woman who will be there for him day-in-and-day out. It is a bonus that his future Little Leaguer's chances of making the All-Star team just went up exponentially as well. Because of the manner feminism has destroyed the “gal who married dear old dad”, these marriages are actually much more solid in America today. Not advocating, just tired of PC, BS and pointing out a fact.

Aren't over half of black women in America obese? Sorry, but I use to live in New York and I did not remember seeing this abudence of hot traditional feminine African American women. If you are talking about foreign black women then yes- but most African American women I saw were fat, loud and ghetto. Not exactly soft spoken feminine porcelain dolls. Now don't get me wrong there are some great African American women, but from speaking to some of my African American friends the gender dynamic in the black community seems to be even more fucked up. All one has to do is watch one of Tommy Sotomayor's videos to understand that. In England, both black and women marry out at roughly the same rate. In America twice more black men marry out then black women, which tells you something.

[Graft]

Women's suffrage enabled abortion and the welfare state.

Feminism enabled loudmouth pigs, divorce-rape, and double digit N-counts, ruining the traditional family.

There is no feminism without suffrage, but feminism was the deciding factor in the cultural decay.

An interesting third choice: social media/technology.

[Arado]

Didn't want to start a new thread, so figured I would bump this thread. Anyone here listen to investment guru - permabear - Gold Bug Peter Schiff? He is a libertarian and usually spends most of his time promoting gold and bashing bitcoin and the Fed.

Here is he going all out at 14:00 bashing the 19th amendment as promoting socialism in the U.S. Interesting listen, especially since Schiff used to be pro-Trump but has turned against him for his fiscal irresponsibility and promoting the stock market bubble.