[Richie]

respect.

[ManAbout]

Doing what he did is ten times harder for a guy coming from India. Probably one of out 10,000 guys going from India to Ukraine would even have the courage to talk to the girls, let alone sleep with them.

Good job man.

[Entropy4]

Hey, I'd bang any of 'em. Well done.

(P.S.: Just another reason we should all ditch the 10 scale)

[latinapuslover]

(09-06-2011 08:48 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Im so not hating! Good on ya man... I totally would. Just saying... If they are 9's and 10's then I have seen 19's and 20's! hallelujah.

what would you rate the girls in the pics cause the first one looks like a 7.5 or 8 just depends how she looks in real life.

[Richie]

Well as Roosh said I don't think it really matters so dont want to hijack the thread with another discussion about what is 7.5. But yes I agree. The first is easily the most agreeable. they come across as sexy which is important. But I'm all about the face and they arnt classic beauties.

(09-06-2011 10:19 AM)latinapuslover Wrote:  

(09-06-2011 08:48 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Im so not hating! Good on ya man... I totally would. Just saying... If they are 9's and 10's then I have seen 19's and 20's! hallelujah.

what would you rate the girls in the pics cause the first one looks like a 7.5 or 8 just depends how she looks in real life.

[Ami5]

First, these girls really look much better in real life.
Particularly the second and third girl.
Still, I would rate them anything from 7.5 to 9.
These girls, particularly the 2nd, is not 'average' for Kiev and Kharkiv.
But yeah, may be my rating is biased -- I am currently in a shit-hole place like India, where quality is rare and covered!

Most importantly, what matters is not if the girl is hot, but how she is on bed!

Ukraine has much more to offer. I agree! Definitely needed time and some Russian for that.

[iknowexactly]

(09-06-2011 10:50 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

You did GREAT bro. Forget what we people typing away say.

I especially think the last one is very pretty, soulful eyes, looks fairly sweet-tempered.

If she's pretty enough to fall in love with, what's the point of splitting hairs? it sounds so creepy to sound like hunters counting points on bucks you bagged.

'Cause being in love is better than cataloging a certain level of cheekbone like some kind of entymologist.

[Richie]

Personally I find the whole rating thing very interesting. I like to see how one mans 6 can be another mans 9 and vice versa. I dont think it should be abolished or criticised. It doesnt hurt to hear what ones mans opinion is against anothers. It's intriguing and should not be interpreted as a dig. We are all men... you can take it.

[Entropy4]

(09-06-2011 11:12 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Personally I find the whole rating thing very interesting. I like to see how one mans 6 can be another mans 9 and vice versa. I dont think it should be abolished or criticised. It doesnt hurt to hear what ones mans opinion is against anothers. It's intriguing and should not be interpreted as a dig. We are all men... you can take it.

The main problem isn't so much the dick-waving and comparisons (although those get really tiresome), it's when people start making blanket statements such as "9's behave this way and 6's behave that way." If my 6 is your 9 and vice-versa, this is not only useless information, but it actually harms both of us, as it's inaccurate.

Anyway, props to OP for posting pics of his chicks. And I will give him one thing, most girls look better in real life. It's easy to sit on a forum and critique girls for having a crooked nose or whatever. It's another to see them in person and have the balls to go hit on them.

[latinapuslover]

(09-06-2011 11:30 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  

(09-06-2011 11:12 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Personally I find the whole rating thing very interesting. I like to see how one mans 6 can be another mans 9 and vice versa. I dont think it should be abolished or criticised. It doesnt hurt to hear what ones mans opinion is against anothers. It's intriguing and should not be interpreted as a dig. We are all men... you can take it.

The main problem isn't so much the dick-waving and comparisons (although those get really tiresome), it's when people start making blanket statements such as "9's behave this way and 6's behave that way." If my 6 is your 9 and vice-versa, this is not only useless information, but it actually harms both of us, as it's inaccurate.

Anyway, props to OP for posting pics of his chicks. And I will give him one thing, most girls look better in real life. It's easy to sit on a forum and critique girls for having a crooked nose or whatever. It's another to see them in person and have the balls to go hit on them.

I did lots of online banging and most girls look much better in pics. i mean some were a huge difference going from an 8.5 to a 5. so it depends on the pics if they hand picked them out of a 1000 or you took the pic with her. in the end of the day the only way you could rate a chick is after you seen her naked and banged her a few times.

[iknowexactly]

(09-06-2011 11:37 AM)latinapuslover Wrote:  

in the end of the day the only way you could rate a chick is after you seen her naked and banged her a few times.

It's really true, I know for me the girls I think are super hot look too skinny with their clothes on. Then, as one rather crass guy I knew put it, when you get their clothes off, "It's all meat."

[playa_with_a_passport]

Good Job Ami, those girls are hot. At the end of the day that's the only thing that matters. Men lie, Women lie, pictures don't.

[Yams]

Nice pics, respect. Its almost as if a girl automatically loses 3 points once she is in a photo.

[Mighty Mouse]

I would like to go to Ukraine, too, but there are two things that make me overthink it.

- I've heard HIV is spreading among the young population, especially due to drug use (needles). Read on Wikipedia yesterday that 16 percent of young adults in Odassa have HIV. I hope this is an exaggeration. Shocking!

- Euro 2012: How will it affect the country, when the drunken hoardes of ugly Italian, Spanish, and English football White Trash come. How will this affect the Ukrainian women's view of Western guys?

[oldnemesis]

(09-06-2011 02:02 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

Basic Russian. I mentioned already. I can read/write perfectly, and if someone is talking about normal, usual things, I can understand on surface level what he/she is talking about.

If you can read AND write, this means you know the words and know the grammar enough to combine the sentence. Your Russian is WAY above basic.

Quote:

Because, believe me - if you wear indecent clothes as if you just woke up, and spoke in Indian accent along with usual beta behavior - it would make you not stand out as such. I always believe a person should try to make the best out of themselves.

Wearing indecent clothes is a VERY different story, and it indeed matters. Beta behavior also matters. But those two things have nothing common with your accent. As I said, your accent doesn't matter - as long as she actually understands what you're saying, you should be fine.

Quote:

No, many people know what 'Indian accent' is, but you are right, they never care about it! They care about understanding. My usual accent is not Indian, so I don't have to imitate or try hard speaking English in any other way.

Understanding has very little in common with accent when you:
- Try to speak slowly and make larger pauses between words. It is hard to understand for an untrained ear when the first word ends and the second word starts.
- Stick to common words. She doesn't have a dictionary with her, and you won't lose much by saying "small" instead of "tiny/miniscule/junior size".
- Skip culture-specific humor. She is very unlikely to know what the "third base" means. Hell, I still don't know what the "third base" means!

Quote:

Yes! But since I know they learned English at school, I expected them to speak English good enough.

They didn't learn English at school the way you did. It was typically two hours a week in a group of 30 people. Anyway, language needs constant refreshment - if you know the language and don't use it for years, you will forget it.

Quote:

And importantly, believe me, it sucks to not to be even able to talk to a 9 sitting near by, just because you can't speak the fucking language!

Yes, it sucks. That's why I suggest learning Russian, pretty much everyone (outside Lviv) speaks it.

[MiXX]

(09-05-2011 05:19 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

Ukrainian chicks need the sense that you are not a heavy drunkard, and are a bit sincere person, that's it!

OK, so normally I walk around a club with a bottle of water in my hands. Wouldn't this mean that I should slam dunk girls in bed if I tell them I don't drink at all?

Also, you mentioned going to Kharkiv in the summer - what months exactly? I know that Eastern Europe girls LOVE to travel during summer months and big cities usually empty out until Fall.

Mixx

[The Duke]

Kharkov has lots of universities but it's not just a student town. It's a city of over a million people. I was in Kharkov during August. It's true that a lot of people go to the Black Sea and also a lot of the students go back to their towns over the summer. The city was quiet, but it's big enough that it was not dead. There was decent amount of nightlife in August. The weather in August was nice, maybe a little hot at times. Girls dress in skimpy summer attire. There were some lake-side beaches with hot girls sun bathing. It's easier to rent an apartment during the summer. Those are some advantages of the summer but since it's kind of quiet, Fall & Spring might be the best time to come here.

Classes started on Sep 1. Now the city is bustling. Some bars/clubs that were closed during the Summer are open again.

Mixx, I've met two girls here who dont drink. The rest were normal drinkers. They dont get shitfaced like girls in Poland. Well, I banged one girl who seemed to drink A LOT, but she was an exception. I dont think Ukraine is really different than anywhere else in terms of girls not liking drunk guys. I wouldnt expect getting VIP treatment for being a non-drinker. However you will get VIP treatment for just being American. BTW, I tell girls here I'm from Miami and they all say WOW.

[Pilgrim37]

(09-06-2011 02:36 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  

Since you guys asked for the pics, here are some of them.
Note that EE chicks, particularly Ukrainians and Russians, love to be photographed!
These photos are not my photos. I took it from their computers.

Another thing - you don't need to remember the name of the girl! If you are ever banging her and forget the name, don't worry - she must be one of Katya, Nastya, Ira...

#1: Model. 9. In real, I'd score her 0.5 less, to be honest. She also lived in New York for a while. As such from Kharkiv.
#2, 3, 4: Straight up 9. This girl was from Kharkiv again. Lives in Odessa.
#5: She gave an appearance of Lindsay Lohan, in real! 8.5. She speaks in a strange British-Ukrainian mixed English accent! From Kharkiv.

You did mighty well...and well done for learning Russian.
If that's the quality just hanging around the city I'm not surprised it's becoming a sex tourist haven.

[dedoshucos]

[/i]

(09-05-2011 05:19 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  



Spend 2 months in Ukraine - particularly around Kiev, Odessa, Lviv and Kharkiv.
Profile:
20 year old male
from India
Without Indian accent!
And went there for a project for building partnerships, conference and teaching.

Basic level in Russian.
And most importantly, I knew 2 LTR type girls from Kharkiv already for long!

...

I went there on 10th of July and the first thing I noticed, after coming from a shit-hole like India, was the quality of girls!
Although I don't speak Russian, but I have been around Russian community a lot and have met a lot of Slavic girls, but surely Ukrainian girls happen to have a very nice quality.
...

I took 2 important things in mind:
Not to speak in Indian accent!
(Although my natural English accent is American, and it surprised a lot of girls!)
And to look not as a gypsy! Thanks to this forum, I kept a lot of focus on my appearance and wore formals a lot, as I look good in them.
The Club scene in Ukraine sucks all over - Girls prefer to dance among themselves and language restriction was too bad!
I must mention - the people in general are not very warm and may seem to ignore or look down upon you.
Particularly the fact is wherever you go , poor Blacks and Vietnamese seem to hover around and are infamous for their arrogance.
Looking different, not acting like a perv, and acting very very confident and alpha swooped these people of otherwise 'just another foreigner' image.
...
-Kiev:
Kiev is the capital and seems undoubtedly like a potpourri when I went there. To be honest, there are few clubs here and there and surely I didn't rely on it.
For the fact that I can't rely on clubs and cannot be expert at day-time due to language issues, I used my friend circle and CS for Kiev.
...
I also met an Indonesian lizard, though maximum 6.5, and through CS I had a Ukrainian 7.5.

Odessa:
If there is any city you must go to during summers, it must always be these 'beach cities' as the whole of Ukraine goes along side Ukraine this time!
My Moroccan friend met an 8 during a conference, talked her for 3 hours, and banged.

Lviv:
One word - the city is nice, beautiful...but the people, including girls, suck.

Kharkiv:
This is the city where I spent most of my time so I may be biased, but not much.
I will NOT exaggerate if I propose the city to go in Ukraine is Kharkiv!
Firstly, I banged two of my 'contacts', one solid 8 and another 8.5! So I had two constant people as such.
The girls' quality is very high - averaging 7 at least!
Note that I went during Summers, and after-summer most of the cities are rushed but more people, so I am not sure.

Bolero Club (Akademika Barabashova) is regarded as one of the best hang-outs for foreigners. A lot of girls going there speak English, so it's fine.
(I lived near Bolero. So, I went there very regularly! )
If you want to check out, "Radmir" (near Akademika Pavlova) is not a bad place as well. Two of my buddies, both from Turkey, got lays from there.
I got a notch there as well.
My suggestion would be to go a bit early - around 10:30 or 11pm. Of course, weekend works the best.
There is another club - Plaza. The quality of girls is good but to be honest, I am not sure if it is the best place for girls as such. Speak Russian!
Two other very good clubs are Misto (its near Botanicheskiey metro station) and Resta Club (Akademika Pavlova). Both are convertible into lays.
...
I must mention again, sometimes club scene is not perfect as such...as there is too much rush and girls are more comfortable talking to their Ukrainian betas, than trying to speak English.

I got 2 more lays ... 8 and 8,5, I would say... from the last Underground I took at 11:30pm!
Yes...stay away from pros!

...
Stay away from drunkards and jealous Ukrainians!

...
The fact is if there is a girl who speaks even a little English, you MUST talk to her. You might get pissed off with extra effort, but with right kind of girls, it's worth it.
I must mention - I was very much annoyed with the fact people don't speak English well.
I was sitting in the last Metro to 'Barabashova', and like usual the people were staring and so on.
A solid 9 on the left. Anyways, I asked her if she speaks English, and she said No.
I sat back...'another !'
But...then I thought, let me try! I mixed my little Russian with her low-level English, and then ...
3 hours later, I was in her bed!



Ukrainian chicks need the sense that you are not a heavy drunkard, and are a bit sincere person, that's it!
Another thing - their favorite topic is 'life'. Believe me, they can talk about 'life' for hours, but about 'work' its a turn off. They like intellectual shit, a bit... (or may be I am into such girls myself), they are not too nasty on bed...and that's it.

Note that Kharkiv is the venue of Euro Cup 2012, so a lot of swooping possible as a high amount of 'fly girls' going to Kharkiv for opportunities or part-time work.
...

This is a post on steroids!! GREAT MAN!
Now, I've being to Europe before UK, Spain, Czech and Hungary. Please view my film on youtube: Search "ALLAN'S BUDAPEST BLAST"[i]

Had obviously a blast in 2008. I'm tanned, of Latino decent but speak with an American accent and speak fluent Spanish. Now I ask the following:

I plan to visit eastern Europe again for the 2012 Eurocup and are considering either Slovakia, Russia or Prague in CR. Which of these countries do you mostly recommend for a 34 year old Latino? You can see pics of me on the video (which I really recommend everyone sees)

Would you say my age may be an obstacle?

And how do the "very pale white" Ukrainians deal with the whole "looking gypsy at first glance" thing which I thought kinda funny in Budapest?

Do they have a large gypsy population they despise?

Now I intend to go for about a month or two and want to spend my money wisely.
I never traveled to any European country were a visa was needed so that's new to me, Do you now how that works? What's this about going to Bulgaria without a visa to meet Ukrainian girls???

My biggest concern, call it insecurity, is my age. How do the Ukrainian hotties perceive the "on their 30"s men?
Are they very youth driven?
How old were you when you went there??

Now I don't speak any Russian (I guess I could do a few months crash course before I leave) but I'm ok in French and I think may even be even better at French when I go.

Thanks for your time dude, again this post is merciless, it rocks, it kicks ass. I never post replies on any but this was something else.

Me on the pics below:

[latinapuslover]

dedoshucos you look like mixx and he can pull girls any where in the world so you should do fine.

[ManAbout]

(09-08-2011 11:41 PM)dedoshucos Wrote:  

My biggest concern, call it insecurity, is my age. How do the Ukrainian hotties perceive the "on their 30"s men?
Are they very youth driven?
How old were you when you went there??

You can even find a lot of 21 year olds in N America who are not only ok with dating men in their 30s, but prefer it.

If you are concerned about looking your age, the first thing I would suggest is that you lose some weight. The fat around your face makes you look older. Lose that fat and you will wipe 5+ years off your perceived age. You have some time before Euro 2012. But, I suggest that's the first thing you do.

[MiXX]

(09-09-2011 05:21 AM)latinapuslover Wrote:  

dedoshucos you look like mixx and he can pull girls any where in the world so you should do fine.

Umm..nope, sorry man..dedoschucos looks nothing like me. That's just like me saying I look like Enrique Iglesias because we are both Spaniards. Perhaps on being latin, but totally different look.

However, my recommendation to dedoschcos is to lose about 20kgs of bodyfat, then he won't have to worry about being mid-30's. The older you get, the better in shape you better be to pull young hotties in Eastern Europe.


Mixx

[thegmanifesto]

(09-09-2011 10:34 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-08-2011 11:41 PM)dedoshucos Wrote:  

My biggest concern, call it insecurity, is my age. How do the Ukrainian hotties perceive the "on their 30"s men?
Are they very youth driven?
How old were you when you went there??

You can even find a lot of 21 year olds in N America who are not only ok with dating men in their 30s, but prefer it.

Exactly.

We should put this "age" thing to rest.

Along with the "height" thing.

And the "Indian" thing.

Things like this will only hold you back if you let them.

[Pilgrim37]

(09-08-2011 11:41 PM)dedoshucos Wrote:  

[/i]

(09-05-2011 05:19 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  



Spend 2 months in Ukraine - particularly around Kiev, Odessa, Lviv and Kharkiv.
Profile:
20 year old male
from India
Without Indian accent!
And went there for a project for building partnerships, conference and teaching.

Basic level in Russian.
And most importantly, I knew 2 LTR type girls from Kharkiv already for long!

...

I went there on 10th of July and the first thing I noticed, after coming from a shit-hole like India, was the quality of girls!
Although I don't speak Russian, but I have been around Russian community a lot and have met a lot of Slavic girls, but surely Ukrainian girls happen to have a very nice quality.
...

I took 2 important things in mind:
Not to speak in Indian accent!
(Although my natural English accent is American, and it surprised a lot of girls!)
And to look not as a gypsy! Thanks to this forum, I kept a lot of focus on my appearance and wore formals a lot, as I look good in them.
The Club scene in Ukraine sucks all over - Girls prefer to dance among themselves and language restriction was too bad!
I must mention - the people in general are not very warm and may seem to ignore or look down upon you.
Particularly the fact is wherever you go , poor Blacks and Vietnamese seem to hover around and are infamous for their arrogance.
Looking different, not acting like a perv, and acting very very confident and alpha swooped these people of otherwise 'just another foreigner' image.
...
-Kiev:
Kiev is the capital and seems undoubtedly like a potpourri when I went there. To be honest, there are few clubs here and there and surely I didn't rely on it.
For the fact that I can't rely on clubs and cannot be expert at day-time due to language issues, I used my friend circle and CS for Kiev.
...
I also met an Indonesian lizard, though maximum 6.5, and through CS I had a Ukrainian 7.5.

Odessa:
If there is any city you must go to during summers, it must always be these 'beach cities' as the whole of Ukraine goes along side Ukraine this time!
My Moroccan friend met an 8 during a conference, talked her for 3 hours, and banged.

Lviv:
One word - the city is nice, beautiful...but the people, including girls, suck.

Kharkiv:
This is the city where I spent most of my time so I may be biased, but not much.
I will NOT exaggerate if I propose the city to go in Ukraine is Kharkiv!
Firstly, I banged two of my 'contacts', one solid 8 and another 8.5! So I had two constant people as such.
The girls' quality is very high - averaging 7 at least!
Note that I went during Summers, and after-summer most of the cities are rushed but more people, so I am not sure.

Bolero Club (Akademika Barabashova) is regarded as one of the best hang-outs for foreigners. A lot of girls going there speak English, so it's fine.
(I lived near Bolero. So, I went there very regularly! )
If you want to check out, "Radmir" (near Akademika Pavlova) is not a bad place as well. Two of my buddies, both from Turkey, got lays from there.
I got a notch there as well.
My suggestion would be to go a bit early - around 10:30 or 11pm. Of course, weekend works the best.
There is another club - Plaza. The quality of girls is good but to be honest, I am not sure if it is the best place for girls as such. Speak Russian!
Two other very good clubs are Misto (its near Botanicheskiey metro station) and Resta Club (Akademika Pavlova). Both are convertible into lays.
...
I must mention again, sometimes club scene is not perfect as such...as there is too much rush and girls are more comfortable talking to their Ukrainian betas, than trying to speak English.

I got 2 more lays ... 8 and 8,5, I would say... from the last Underground I took at 11:30pm!
Yes...stay away from pros!

...
Stay away from drunkards and jealous Ukrainians!

...
The fact is if there is a girl who speaks even a little English, you MUST talk to her. You might get pissed off with extra effort, but with right kind of girls, it's worth it.
I must mention - I was very much annoyed with the fact people don't speak English well.
I was sitting in the last Metro to 'Barabashova', and like usual the people were staring and so on.
A solid 9 on the left. Anyways, I asked her if she speaks English, and she said No.
I sat back...'another !'
But...then I thought, let me try! I mixed my little Russian with her low-level English, and then ...
3 hours later, I was in her bed!



Ukrainian chicks need the sense that you are not a heavy drunkard, and are a bit sincere person, that's it!
Another thing - their favorite topic is 'life'. Believe me, they can talk about 'life' for hours, but about 'work' its a turn off. They like intellectual shit, a bit... (or may be I am into such girls myself), they are not too nasty on bed...and that's it.

Note that Kharkiv is the venue of Euro Cup 2012, so a lot of swooping possible as a high amount of 'fly girls' going to Kharkiv for opportunities or part-time work.
...

This is a post on steroids!! GREAT MAN!
Now, I've being to Europe before UK, Spain, Czech and Hungary. Please view my film on youtube: Search "ALLAN'S BUDAPEST BLAST"[i]

Had obviously a blast in 2008. I'm tanned, of Latino decent but speak with an American accent and speak fluent Spanish. Now I ask the following:

I plan to visit eastern Europe again for the 2012 Eurocup and are considering either Slovakia, Russia or Prague in CR. Which of these countries do you mostly recommend for a 34 year old Latino? You can see pics of me on the video (which I really recommend everyone sees)

Would you say my age may be an obstacle?

And how do the "very pale white" Ukrainians deal with the whole "looking gypsy at first glance" thing which I thought kinda funny in Budapest?

Do they have a large gypsy population they despise?

Now I intend to go for about a month or two and want to spend my money wisely.
I never traveled to any European country were a visa was needed so that's new to me, Do you now how that works? What's this about going to Bulgaria without a visa to meet Ukrainian girls???

My biggest concern, call it insecurity, is my age. How do the Ukrainian hotties perceive the "on their 30"s men?
Are they very youth driven?
How old were you when you went there??

Now I don't speak any Russian (I guess I could do a few months crash course before I leave) but I'm ok in French and I think may even be even better at French when I go.

Thanks for your time dude, again this post is merciless, it rocks, it kicks ass. I never post replies on any but this was something else.

Me on the pics below:

Looks like you had a good time in Budapest from your videos.
Was that the apartment you were staying in...looked plush!Good choice.

Did you see a noticeable increase in good looking women there?
Friendly?

[dedoshucos]

If you mean the apartment at the begining of the movie...Yeah it was an apartment from of a buddy called the "The Hollywood Apartment". Nice stay. Google it if you wanna see pics, it's for rent online. As far as the women go without a doubt beautiful, like mentioned before in this thread "exotic look" but serious though, proper and very classy for East euro standards. More of a relationship type. Not alot of blondes.

But nothing like the stories I've heard for years about deeper into the east. In fact I belive HU is considered Central Europe. (Glad you liked the Film)

I was lucky to have hungout with Orsolya Tisztaval "Orsi" she's about a 8-9 but with "super-down to earth friendly attitude" you wouldn't expect from a fashion model, although I gotta say I find her sis "Viktoria" even cooler, another 8-9. Ha ha! yeah you can google them too.