0 years ago: the USS Liberty
07-28-2017, 06:10 PM
I'm starting this thread on an important subject breached in the busy Trump thread, starting off with Irenicus' answer:
Lol, do you actually expect the IDF to tell the truth on a false flag attack on the Liberty that they were going to pin on Egypt? Unfortunately the USN also lied about the incident. LBJ and McCain Sr were cucking hard for Israel.
JFK was the last US president who really stood up to Israel, preventing it from building a nuclear weapons program and threatening to clamp down on its US lobbying activities.
That was one of the red lines he had crossed...
2) Yes, the attack was premeditated. Israel wanted to pin the attack on Egypt and precipitate direct US intervention against the Arabs, classic false flag attack, they are experts at this. The evidence for Israel knowing they were attacking an American ship is overwhelming.
3) The USS Liberty was an unarmed NSA spy ship, a clearly marked USN ship flying US flag and sailing in international waters.
4) Israel sure as hell wasn't planning on paying any compensation, they were going to sink the ship, kill all the survivors and pin it on Egypt. They didn't manage to sink it due to the heroism of its crew. And they only paid up after they got caught in the act.
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I swear, the amount of bullshit that passes for accurate history on this site is ridiculous. McCain's plane was next to the one that dropped the bomb. His didn't. There are lots of things to despise McCain for, but let's not make shit up.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/navy-rele...rds_062014
"McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”
WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.
In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.
McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.
As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain’s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of (...) the USS Liberty."
I know what your source says. It's funny that literature that goes through actual scholars (not the internet) doesn't.
"Believed by many crewmen," okay, who? Names and ranks. This is the same type of anonymous source bullshit that fake news media tries to get away with.
Your version of events makes no sense.
McCain's aircraft is 416 on the diagram. The aircraft that shot the missile is 110 on the diagram. For the "wet start" to cause the missile launch, somehow McCain's aircraft was the opposite direction, facing out towards sea, as he started the afterburner.
Just out of curiosity Teller, do you also believe that the attack on the USS Liberty by Israeli forces was mostly a case of mistaken identity?
Since you are so keen about discussing that incident and diverting the topic, answer these questions:
(1) How many investigations were concerning that incident, and what did they conclude? Did you even bother reading them at all? All five (yes, there were FIVE investigations, conducted by both the USN and IDF).
Lol, do you actually expect the IDF to tell the truth on a false flag attack on the Liberty that they were going to pin on Egypt? Unfortunately the USN also lied about the incident. LBJ and McCain Sr were cucking hard for Israel.
JFK was the last US president who really stood up to Israel, preventing it from building a nuclear weapons program and threatening to clamp down on its US lobbying activities.
That was one of the red lines he had crossed...
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(2) What did all the declassified documents and info tell? More specifically - did the IDF order the attack?
(3) What was that ship doing in the middle of a war zone?
(4) Is Israel paying the compensation to the victims and families?
Don't link 2 hour videos - answer in your own words.
2) Yes, the attack was premeditated. Israel wanted to pin the attack on Egypt and precipitate direct US intervention against the Arabs, classic false flag attack, they are experts at this. The evidence for Israel knowing they were attacking an American ship is overwhelming.
3) The USS Liberty was an unarmed NSA spy ship, a clearly marked USN ship flying US flag and sailing in international waters.
4) Israel sure as hell wasn't planning on paying any compensation, they were going to sink the ship, kill all the survivors and pin it on Egypt. They didn't manage to sink it due to the heroism of its crew. And they only paid up after they got caught in the act.
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