[federernadal]

So I am at a bit of a conundrum - in my approaches, I feel like I automatically deliver the subtext of pedestalizing. If I am at a Chipotle and hit on a girl ahead of me in line, isnt the very fact of talking to her a form of pedestalization?

I guess I am just confused how you guys are able to get the girl to chase you after being the one to initiate the connection.

Im thinking cold approaching exclusively here - (not social circle game, where you can kinda acknowledge her and still stay aloof)

[crdr]

It's an art.
You need a hook in your game.
You need them to become curious about you without giving your hand away.
I can't tell you exactly how to do this. But the fundamentals of creating wonder and curiosity that you
are different than other girls is a neglected skill.

You have to have good peripheral vision. You need to look presentable at all times. Not just out of the house.
You need to cultivate confidence every day all day. When you catch a girl looking at you. You have just been approached.
You have just been opened and green lighted. You can go see what's up or don't and make her come to you more.

I'm really patient and girls do things for me without me asking. That's command.

Too many guys run red lights and end up confused and angry. She calls the shots. You got the power.

[Vill@in]

No, talking and gaming girls isn't pedestalization.

It's when you make ONE girl your only focus. You get upset when she doesn't answer you back or when she denies you pussy. Basically you're letting her behavior and actions affect your emotional state.

Abundance Mentality is the antidote for pedestalization. Talk and game as many girls as you can and you won't give any fucks if a girl doesn't answer you back or if she isn't letting you in her pants.

[heavy]

(07-16-2017 07:52 PM)federernadal Wrote:  

So I am at a bit of a conundrum - in my approaches, I feel like I automatically deliver the subtext of pedestalizing. If I am at a Chipotle and hit on a girl ahead of me in line, isnt the very fact of talking to her a form of pedestalization?

I guess I am just confused how you guys are able to get the girl to chase you after being the one to initiate the connection.

Im thinking cold approaching exclusively here - (not social circle game, where you can kinda acknowledge her and still stay aloof)

One option, if needed, is to agree and amplify your pedestalization. I've written before about it...
"Wow (look her up and down), I can't help but say hello...If you aren't dating a movie star yet, we should grab a coffee"
better yet
"Wait a minute...Ryan Gosling (she looks back in confusion)?...you must be dating a movie star, I'm guessing Ryan Gosling"
Both of those can segue into convos about celeb crushes

"Wow, (look her up and down), you know everyone in here has checked you out...do you find people tripping and stumbling when you walk around town?"

"6 seconds...I couldn't last longer than 6 seconds"

This type of material can be delivered after the initial exchange.

This stuff isn't for everyone and all situations, but at the very least it's brutally honest...as men we really do pedestalize them, for obvious reasons.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

Agree and amplify is similar to the "Yes, and..." concept they teach in a lot of improv classes. I have taken and been part of a few improv classes and groups and found it has increased my ability to speak with people.

I'd also suggest reading "the actor's art and craft" by William Esper. Improv helped me feel comfortable talking, but this book helped me connect to the people I speak with. The book teaches methods for evoking your true, honest feelings in conversation.

Of course, going up to a hot girl and just belching some honesty without the balls behind it is not going to work but watch out for letting that become an excuse for inaction.