[soup]

I don't usually run game on actual whores.

[Samseau]

(02-24-2013 12:25 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

(09-03-2011 12:31 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

I don't think I came out of the womb in Andalucia thinking I will now game bitches. However, I remember giving this beautiful girl some perfume and flowers to profess my love and loyalty to her in primary school. My parents thought it was a sign of me maturing . Needless to say, after a few weeks , things ran foul.
So, this whore decides to start dating a scum bag in another class. Now this for me was not a big deal , but when I had a whiff of the perfume that she was wearing while at the same time giggling and kissing with him in a corner I instantly felt the sulfur coming out of my ears. This was my perfume that I had bought! Why couldn't she just stick to soap this day? Scents can fuck you up, and I think it scarred me for life because every time she would walk by with the prick, and I smelled the perfume that i had bought , the plot to have her legs dangling off of a wharf seemed all the more pleasant. This was the beginning for me. Now , decades later ,I require many gifts , cologne, shoes, anything, all in her honor.

What was the event that triggered you to become the selfish, cunning gamer that you are today?

This is no different than the person who once mugged by a black person then decides that every black person they encounter is now a potential mugger and should be treated as such. It's the basis of all prejudices and a mark of stunted character development.

No it's not. Your reading comprehension is off. Pusscrook never said he thought every woman must give him gifts, he only said that because of one girl's behavior he changed forever and wanted gifts from women. This doesn't necessarily mean he wants gifts from all women, just some women.

[Nomad77]

The title of the post says it all: What was the event...

And this is quite normal for people. They allow a single event or person to change how they view the world and everyone in it.

[Samseau]

(02-25-2013 11:11 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

The title of the post says it all: What was the event...

And this is quite normal for people. They allow a single event or person to change how they view the world and everyone in it.

It's normal because the average person needs to be bitch slapped by reality a few times before they start to understand it.

[The Great Basilisk]

Years of beta behaviour and then finding game blogs. Suddenly it all came together.

Why was i more successful with girls when i was in highschool than later?
-I teased the hell out of them back then(for example i used to pull their strings up from under their jeans)

Why did that one girl that liked me not agree to a date?
-Because i acted like a beta whose balls had been cut off when i finally did ask her out

I identified myself in everything that Heartiste(and later roosh) wrote about betas. I still remember my thoughts when i played with the thought of chatting up some chicks;
-But what am i gonna say?
-But what if they don't like me?

Lol.

Luckily i changed. My favourite moment was when my friend's gf who had seen my progress told me this
"You've changed! You used to be this harmless nerd when we first met, but now you are a player and could get any girl in this club"

[Giovonny]

My dads sperm impregnating my moms egg

[thegmanifesto]

(02-25-2013 04:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

My dads sperm impregnating my moms egg

My Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather first setting eyes on my Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandmother.

[Giovonny]

The Big Bang!

haha




(for the scientists/atheists)

--

This moment..



(for the religious folk)

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(02-25-2013 06:02 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

This moment..



(for the religious folk)

You mean this (for other religious folk)?

[Nascimento]

Thought I'd dig this post back up.

This past week makes 1 year in the game for me. That is from the moment I started taking action. I had been reading up on game for 3 years and hadn't done a thing.

I officially started game 'full time' after first year of college.

Throughout high school, never made a move on girls. They never made a move on me either. Actually that is a lie, I had times where girls would be flirting with me, but for the most part I had no idea. Throughout high school I crushed on maybe 4 or 5 different girls, not once did I make a move. I'd get excited and get a brief high for days when I'd have an awesome conversation with one of the girls I crushed on.

Never went to prom. Didn't want to go without a date. The girl I was heavily attracted to at the time (which had over the years become one of the hotter ones in the grade) didn't have a date either.

I ended up having lots of friendly relationships with girls. By the time grade 12 game around, I felt I was doing much better since I actually interacted with hot girls, as opposed to grade 9 where that was a rarity.

I ended high school nevermind a virgin, which I didn't see as a big deal, but without having kissed. That was a big deal to me.

First year college, moved into residence. Determined to change everything, and hungry. I had a crazy eye opening freshman week, where girls were actively hitting on me. I made a move to kiss one girl when I was drunk but she gave me the cheek.

I actually started going to parties in college, where I hadn't in high school. Girls were hitting on me, and I liked it. But my game wasn't yet developing. At one point, in my highest point I had been walking back to campus with a girl I met at a party and liked me. I asked if she wanted to go back to my room with me to hang out a bit and have a drink at the end of the night. She agreed, and as I got back to my residence I changed my mind.

HA. That is what my friends say and still laugh about today, as do I. This girl agreed to go back to my room and I just didn't see it at the time, I didn't have the awareness. Clearly into me, and I still hadn't even KISSED. I was looking for the perfect moment..

Finished first year with little to no progress.

Summer of second year, I decided to take action. Took me some time, but I finally made my FIRST EVER APPROACH. I finally showed interest in a girl without hiding it. I was always scared to. I was on a high for days. One day I did 3 day game approaches, all direct. I ended the day saying it was the best of my entire life (and how many of those days I've had since then, lol).

My birthday night, turned 19. I got in a great buzz and hit the club for the second time (first was an all ages night since I still wasn't of age, no progress). This night changed EVERYTHING. I had my first 2 kisses, I just had so much bottled tension and just went for it. I told the girls I was going to kiss them, they didn't say anything bad or leave, so I just did. I will remember this moment forever, it was such an epiphany moment.

I was hungry. I wanted and desired progress like no other. Due to a daygame approach and a date setup, I had my virginity sex 2-3 weeks later. She was a couple years older, cute half asian that drove to hang out with me. After a makeout I convinced her to have sex with me. She gave me a lot of resistance and I showed desperateness which made her ask if I was a virgin. I eventually said yes and she couldn't believe it. After some more talk I convinced her to fuck me lol.

It didn't transition to more after that, even though she really liked me. I didn't develop feelings for her. I was in such a high from getting laid nothing mattered. I texted my 2 closest buddies and they couldn't believe it. It came out of nowhere, literally. All I had planned to do with this girl was make smoothies, and TRY to get a kiss.

After that I went off. Full of desire, and after a tough transition period, I finally started attracting tons of girls, making progress sexually, easy makeouts, numbers all over the place. Had my first ONS after the girl pulled me home from the club.

A full year after that changing moment my birthday night, I've made more progress each of the 12 months of the year than I had made the first 18 years of my entire life.

Compared to how I couldn't and hadn't kissed a girl a year ago, now makeouts come with ease. In the past I'd fantasize having sex, now I am able to pull a girl home the odd night out, and have had a fuck buddy for a few months.

I could write about my progress for days. It's all logged at around 20 thousand words in a word document. But that should do for now.

I can't say I had a single life changing epiphany moment that caused me to start gaming, as some of the ones I've read about here. It was maybe a collection of small ones.

The fact I hadn't kissed for so long, the fact a girl agreed to come back to my room and I was just to stupid to realize, the fact one time I cried about a girl when I was drunk and completely infatuated with after hanging out with her for a week during a camping trip (I was never sure she liked me, but I grew feelings for her). The fact I was drunk at home by myself when I was 16 or 17 and cried my love out for this one girl I was obsessed with in high school, but never made a move or at least ask her out to prom when she didn't even have a date.

It was never a single pain moment. Small moments over time, eventually I got sick of it.

By the way, that girl from high school. I ran into her a couple months ago for the first time since I graduated. I had no feelings resurface, and I had a very aloof and laid back conversation with her. I could see in her eyes she was very attracted to me.

Now I am more aware.

[bacan]

I think by considering all women to be lying selfish manipulative whores you guys are going to miss out on a lot of joy in life and hurt a lot of decent women.

Some women are horrible, some are great. Same with men. How many women have threads on the internet where they discuss how to use and manipulate men? Hypocrisy..

[Ingocnito]

The realization (event) for me that occurred over a span of about 5 notable years, between ages 28-33, that you have to game at all stages for any positive end-goal with a woman involved. Could be a ONS, short relationship, pimpin, harem building, LTR, marriage, whatever the hell you want.

I think the hardest part is remaining game-focused when you're focused on other things like your career, and other dreams. For me it takes practice to remain sharp at gaming women. Its really a lifestyle change across the board.

[eradicator]

(07-17-2013 03:41 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

The realization (event) for me that occurred over a span of about 5 notable years, between ages 28-33, that you have to game at all stages for any positive end-goal with a woman involved. Could be a ONS, short relationship, pimpin, harem building, LTR, marriage, whatever the hell you want.

Yes, definitely.

Quote:

I think the hardest part is remaining game-focused when you're focused on other things like your career, and other dreams.

I disagree. When things are going great for me career wise, that is when it is easiest to run game on women.

I disagree with a lot of the pick up artist techniques that preach 'fake it til you make it' and would rather genuinely improve myself, which includes improving my career.

[nek]

I had one real bad break-up that sort of started it, but the biggest thing was being around women a lot in my job (technical sales). And these are the components as to Why I went down this path:

- When I realized how cold and calculating they really are. It's just their nature.

- When I realized that once done with you, they don't care to show you even basic human decency.

- When I realized that they feel entitled to be as a big of a bitch as possible to you for the smallest of perceived slights (large egos, even the ones that act insecure).

- When I would hear girls deliberately try to piss off their boyfriends, then mock said boyfriends for actually getting upset.

-When same girls want trust and honesty from their boyfriends, only to spill the beans to their girlfriends and lie to their boyfriends (the 'good girl' fronts some of them can put on).

I'm sure there's more I could add but this is a start.

[Nascimento]

(07-17-2013 07:26 PM)nek Wrote:  

I had one real bad break-up that sort of started it, but the biggest thing was being around women a lot in my job (technical sales). And these are the components as to Why I went down this path:

- When I realized how cold and calculating they really are. It's just their nature.

- When I realized that once done with you, they don't care to show you even basic human decency.

- When I realized that they feel entitled to be as a big of a bitch as possible to you for the smallest of perceived slights (large egos, even the ones that act insecure).

- When I would hear girls deliberately try to piss off their boyfriends, then mock said boyfriends for actually getting upset.

-When same girls want trust and honesty from their boyfriends, only to spill the beans to their girlfriends and lie to their boyfriends (the 'good girl' fronts some of the can put on).

I'm sure there's more I could add but this is a start.

Everything you said here applies to girls who do not respect or value the guy.

Become a guy she is attracted to and she can look up to, and these things won't happen.

[nek]

(07-17-2013 07:32 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 07:26 PM)nek Wrote:  

I had one real bad break-up that sort of started it, but the biggest thing was being around women a lot in my job (technical sales). And these are the components as to Why I went down this path:

- When I realized how cold and calculating they really are. It's just their nature.

- When I realized that once done with you, they don't care to show you even basic human decency.

- When I realized that they feel entitled to be as a big of a bitch as possible to you for the smallest of perceived slights (large egos, even the ones that act insecure).

- When I would hear girls deliberately try to piss off their boyfriends, then mock said boyfriends for actually getting upset.

-When same girls want trust and honesty from their boyfriends, only to spill the beans to their girlfriends and lie to their boyfriends (the 'good girl' fronts some of the can put on).

I'm sure there's more I could add but this is a start.

Everything you said here applies to girls who do not respect or value the guy.

Become a guy she is attracted to and she can look up to, and these things won't happen.

Yeah my thesis was basically that I realized that just because they date a guy, doesn't mean they even respect or like him.

[nek]

(07-17-2013 07:32 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 07:26 PM)nek Wrote:  

I had one real bad break-up that sort of started it, but the biggest thing was being around women a lot in my job (technical sales). And these are the components as to Why I went down this path:

- When I realized how cold and calculating they really are. It's just their nature.

- When I realized that once done with you, they don't care to show you even basic human decency.

- When I realized that they feel entitled to be as a big of a bitch as possible to you for the smallest of perceived slights (large egos, even the ones that act insecure).

- When I would hear girls deliberately try to piss off their boyfriends, then mock said boyfriends for actually getting upset.

-When same girls want trust and honesty from their boyfriends, only to spill the beans to their girlfriends and lie to their boyfriends (the 'good girl' fronts some of the can put on).

I'm sure there's more I could add but this is a start.

Everything you said here applies to girls who do not respect or value the guy.

Become a guy she is attracted to and she can look up to, and these things won't happen.

Question: Do you think the bar for being a guy a girl respects is rapidly rising (at least in the west)? That's something that I've been pondering for some time. Just wondering what you think.

[Nascimento]

(07-17-2013 07:51 PM)nek Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 07:32 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 07:26 PM)nek Wrote:  

I had one real bad break-up that sort of started it, but the biggest thing was being around women a lot in my job (technical sales). And these are the components as to Why I went down this path:

- When I realized how cold and calculating they really are. It's just their nature.

- When I realized that once done with you, they don't care to show you even basic human decency.

- When I realized that they feel entitled to be as a big of a bitch as possible to you for the smallest of perceived slights (large egos, even the ones that act insecure).

- When I would hear girls deliberately try to piss off their boyfriends, then mock said boyfriends for actually getting upset.

-When same girls want trust and honesty from their boyfriends, only to spill the beans to their girlfriends and lie to their boyfriends (the 'good girl' fronts some of the can put on).

I'm sure there's more I could add but this is a start.

Everything you said here applies to girls who do not respect or value the guy.

Become a guy she is attracted to and she can look up to, and these things won't happen.

Question: Do you think the bar for being a guy a girl respects is rapidly rising (at least in the west)? That's something that I've been pondering for some time. Just wondering what you think.

Yes.

But at the same time, it's always up to you.

It only means that you have to be ahead of most other guys in terms of game if you want to get quality girls. Rough and not calculated guess would be 90-95%.

That's the bad news.

Good news is that it's not that hard to place in the upper percentiles.

[nek]

(07-17-2013 08:43 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Good news is that it's not that hard to place in the upper percentiles.

Can you elaborate on this? It just seems to me that by definition it's hard to get in the upper percentiles.

[Nascimento]

Most men don't have any form of game.

Go to a club or bar, just to people watch. Count out how many approaches you see. Count out how many go well, based on her expressions.

Go to pof, and search in your area in a 5 mile radius. How many women? How many men?

Of these men, maybe 5-10% actually attain some sort of success from online dating. All the other will be there for years without even a date. If they do get one, the odds of it being a quality girl are even less.

I've only touched on one aspect. There are many others, for instance the percentage of adult men younger than 40 who are overweight. I don't know the correct numbers, but the values are insanely high.

Work your ass off and develop game, get fit, build a lifestyle, make money and use wisely, combine it all and you are already in that upper percentile.

A lot of guys develop the above, but not all together. For instance, I see guys at the gym all the time that are ripped and have excellent physiques that is miles above mine. But I am almost certain most if not all of these guys have weak game. I see ripped dudes all the time at the clubs and all they do is stand against the walls hoping some girl approaches them.

Does that help a bit? This is also just one opinion I'm sure others can offer some interesting perspectives as well.

[Kieran]

I was lucky in that I had quite a bit of experience with women at a young age and so I became somewhat of a natural. However, despite of all the evidence to the contrary, I still maintained a bit of a madonna whore complex, believing that all the scandalous behaviour I'd seen from women over the years was because they were bad girls, and that I would one day meet a good girl to settle with.

I met a girl that ticked all my boxes and began to pedestalise her badly. I started dating her and instead of being my usual self, tried to act like a true gentleman nice guy sap because I thought this girl was different. I guess I fell in love with her. Anyway, a short way into our relationship, a friend told me that she had saw her out with another guy, and so I decided to hack her facebook. The shit I saw made me feel like I'd been kicked in the stomach, and I couldn't eat a thing for a day or so.

Trying to make sense of it all I went online and within a few hours of googling and following links, I came across Chateau Heartiste and Rational Male (and a little later Roosh). I absorbed what I was reading like a sponge, and everything just clicked into place because I had so much past reference experience already.

After that I just became icey, and to this day, if I have a chance to look inside a girl's phone, or facebook etc, then I will because you can guarantee that you will find some treacherous shit that will keep your heart cold.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I was a weak, timid, craven little boy. I had no father figure. I was not athletically gifted at all. I had no discipline or any idea how to apply my natural intellect. Sometime in my early 20s, I got tired of being a fucking loser. I wanted to get laid. I wanted to get strong and fit. I wanted to be like the classical heroes I looked up to growing up. I wanted to stop caring about what society thinks and expects of me. Being 'myself' wasn't working out for me, so I decided to change that.


I started reading Roosh and Heartisie. I was never good at interacting with people, so I needed someone to break it down, Barney style for me. Admittedly, I'm a pretty weird and intense guy. That's okay, instead of automatically deeming myself as a pariah and living as such, I use it to my advantage. I've had many people that have gotten to personally know me remark that the world is going to be a much less interesting place when I die.

I went from barely being able to bench the bar in HS to dead lifting 2.5x my BW. I enlisted in the Marine Corps. I went to war. I've been injured and scarred. I know that while I'm hurting and in agony now, I do truly have the mental toughness to endure and triumph. Like that Native American proverb 'When you ask for Strength, the Gods answer with difficulties and challenges'.

Game for me is not just about slaying puss. I used to think because I was not conventionally attractive I'd be stuck with mediocre women. No, that's horseshit. I've fucked girls ranging from fetish models to being in a long term relationship with a girl from a family with some very old money'. It's about looking at yourself in the mirror, and striving to be the man you want to be. Maybe it's not all possible, but I'd rather shoot for the stars and fall short than stay on the ground and doubt myself.

[Cr33pin]

my libido

[soup]

The day I started feeling sex urges.

[Player_1337]

What catalyzed my implementation of game and entry into the player lifestyle: my constant exposure to entitled, narcissistic princesses who had nothing going for them but their looks and fleeting youth.