[Stanfield]

I often thought women make it hard for themselves. All they have to do is marry young and become a dutiful wife and husband. A friend once told me it isnt for a woman to find a husband. I disagreed.

Is it as easy as a man jerking off? Or is it as hard as banging a solid ten?

[Rawmeo]

From a woman's side, it's easy. Just like finding sex: we men have do pretty much all the gaming and jump through hoops to get laid - all a woman needs to do is message a man in her phone "hey, I'm alone, come to my place" and the deal is done.

If a woman wants to get married, then it's easy:
1) Stay a virgin until you meet the man you want to marry. Pretty easy, since men who don't accept this aren't the ones you want to marry.
2) Be a good cook. It takes a one-time coaching session of 3-4 hours to get the basics.
3) Pay attention to your weight - that's the hardest for women, but fortunately, mistakes can easily be reversed.
4) Don't buy into feminism.

If you were a woman, how hard do you think it would be to do the 4 things above?
My answer: pretty easy.

It's not about "being hard", it's about "making it hard for yourself".

[heavy]

Obviously getting married is fucking easy.

The problem women have is tying down a man (getting married) to whom they're attracted.

If they want that do as Rawmeo said, still aint hard.

I would add, go to a good conservative Christian college or maybe Hillsdale, get a nursing degree, find a guy who will wine and dine with the little $ he has in college but who's getting a STEM degree.

Have babies, if something goes wrong, you have a nursing degree.

The problem women have...the first step in the entire process is having a good dad. It's sorta the luck of the draw to a large extent, which is why I hate it when men hate on women.

[chitown72]

I agree with all of the above but in addition, I think today's women forget what this thing called "duty" is. It is a set of expectations that are placed which you should do regardless if you like it or not. Guys do it all the time and for awhile women did too to a certain degree. This has faded quite a bit in recent times.

I see beta guy husbands coming home from a long day at work to then have to take their kids out for dinner and spend time with them to give the wife that had been home a "break". LOL

Just like I don't like to take my kids to the park all the time, especially after a long/hard day at work, I understand it is my "duty" as a father to provide some quality time to them and put my needs on the backburner. That's what duty is

[Darkwing Buck]

Getting married unfortunately is far too easy.

Women with kids, overweight women, drunks, druggies, sluts, whores, rude bitches, etc can all find a simp willing to marry them.

[Sebastian]

'Women ride cock carousel when they are young. Once they hit the wall and the clock is ticking, they want to settle down with Beta Provider'

Typical RVF comments by mad guys.

[kaotic]

(06-30-2017 04:03 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

'Women ride cock carousel when they are young. Once they hit the wall and the clock is ticking, they want to settle down with Beta Provider'

Typical RVF comments by mad guys.

So instead of being passive aggressive how about you explain why this is a wrong way of thinking.

Why are the men mad ?

Why are they wrong ?

What makes this type of statement wrong in your eyes ?

Do you believe in a different theory ?

Overall why do you think this timeline (18-30) is wrong ?


It's been my experience the older a woman gets the more she wants to settle down and have kids and get married. (That's biology 101)

Odds in America are, she's been quite a few men in her life time. (stats don't lie)

I'm not angry about it, females hypergamy and game knows no bounds, they're women, you can't hate on that. (logic vs. emotion)

You accept it and manage it to the best of your abilities.

[Sebastian]

Because you wouldn't say such things if you were happy with women.

Getting frustrated with women is fine. Every guy does it. But why spread the disease?

I will say this simple thing to understand.

What Kind of Women always bitch about all men are jerks, liars, douchebags yada yada? do you remember the girls' faces who writes 'I dated too many douchebags..' on their profile on online dating?

So you want to be a male version of that, is that right?

(06-30-2017 04:05 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 04:03 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

'Women ride cock carousel when they are young. Once they hit the wall and the clock is ticking, they want to settle down with Beta Provider'

Typical RVF comments by mad guys.

So instead of being passive aggressive how about you explain why this is a wrong way of thinking.

Why are the men mad ?

Why are they wrong ?

What makes this type of statement wrong in your eyes ?

Do you believe in a different theory ?

Overall why do you think this timeline is wrong ?

[kaotic]

(06-30-2017 04:17 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

Because you wouldn't say such things if you were happy with women.

I don't see your connection here.

Understanding that the older a woman becomes from 18 the more prevalent is the fact she wants to have kids, that's just science.

Statistics prove women in the west typically have multiple sexual partners, that's a fact.

They don't save themselves for marriage and can make bad decisions as they get older, that's life.


Women want a man whose successful and has resources to take care of her and their offspring (nesting). (beta or alpha)


Guys who get angry about that have just swallowed a bitter pill.

You can still be extremely happy, enjoy women and they can complement your life even with the said above.

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Getting frustrated with women is fine. Every guy does it. But why spread the disease?

It's not spreading a disease, it's trying to understand that cultural marxism that has infected it. (This is a deeper and bigger issue to talk about separately)

The bitter ones are just beginning their trek here, you can't hate on them for being upset/hurt/burned/cheated on/heartbroken etc.

This is what the forum is form: Self improvement, learning game, inner game, confidence, etc.

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I will say this simple thing to understand.

What Kind of Women always bitch about all men are jerks, liars, douchebags yada yada? do you remember the girls' faces who writes 'I dated too many douchebags..' on their profile on online dating?

So you want to be a male version of that, is that right?

It's not the same thing at all.

I'll tell you why, because women aren't closing their legs, they aren't getting off online dating apps, they aren't stopping making bad decisions, they just want to complain about it and "try" to screen those guys out of their lives and always fail to do so.

I AM that guy, the no hook ups guy, the no douche bag guy, the no players guy, yet there I am, balls deep in them.

I will admit yes there are some autists, trolls, and guys here who won't do a damn thing to improve themselves.

All they will do is bitch and moan about.

HOWEVER, the majority of the men on this forum go through the stages, transform, and over come that bitterness.

They begin to love life, enjoy women, and have a better outlook on life and women.

Why? Because they are now equipped with the tools to do so.

[Rawmeo]

(06-30-2017 04:05 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 04:03 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

'Women ride cock carousel when they are young. Once they hit the wall and the clock is ticking, they want to settle down with Beta Provider'

Typical RVF comments by mad guys.

So instead of being passive aggressive how about you explain why this is a wrong way of thinking.

Why are the men mad ?

Why are they wrong ?

What makes this type of statement wrong in your eyes ?

Do you believe in a different theory ?

Overall why do you think this timeline (18-30) is wrong ?


It's been my experience the older a woman gets the more she wants to settle down and have kids and get married. (That's biology 101)

Odds in America are, she's been quite a few men in her life time. (stats don't lie)

I'm not angry about it, females hypergamy and game knows no bounds, they're women, you can't hate on that. (logic vs. emotion)

You accept it and manage it to the best of your abilities.

Alas most American girls buy into this mindset - again, because of feminism. If you to go to EE or Asia, you won't see this problem (or at least, a lot less). And the reason is not the intent of the girls, but rather the lack of ability to take long-term consequences into consideration.

[John Michael Kane]

It depends. A girl raised by a good mom and dad will have wisdom instilled in her on how to play good "Girl Game" to land a high-quality man that is suitable for marriage. A girl raised by a single mommy doesn't know the first thing about men, and often flails about dating bad boys and doesn't understand the skill it takes to maintain a relationship. Also, some girls are just plain looking, lack social skiills, etc. Is it hard for women to get married? Not so much in the upper classes where marriage is still highly sought after. In the middle and lower classes, it isn't sought after as much any more as many women in those groups don't want to marry their male peers due to HIGH SOY and poor earnings, plus their own careerism run amok.

So to answer your question, how hard is it to get married? It depends upon the girl, her looks, her upbrining and her social class.

[HOD]

It all depends on her pleasant personality and her desire to be a mother and a wife.

In addition, her positive personality and lack of sarcasm, will endear her to many men, however most western women, have shitty passive aggressive attitude, sprinkle with the need/desire to compete against other men for resources, i.e. Sex and the City.

Furthermore, if she makes her career a priority over her marriage and family, therefore the problem increase ten folds.

Overall, its pretty easy for a women to land a solid husband, especially in the west, where men are beaten up daily to bow down to women's needs and desire. The only requirement is a pleasant personality, being fat isn't even a deterrent.

[RatInTheWoods]

Getting married, laid or knocked up is easy for a women.

But getting that done by a man 3-4 SMV points higher than their own is hard, and what they are biologically driven to try and do.

Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap.

[Stanfield]

Dont understand why women complicate their lives by doing dumb shit like going to India to get chopped up. But I tend to think men let women down by allowing them to run around acting crazy.

#Whiteandblackshariah.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-30-2017 01:25 PM)heavy Wrote:  

Obviously getting married is fucking easy.

The problem women have is tying down a man (getting married) to whom they're attracted.

If they want that do as Rawmeo said, still aint hard.

I would add, go to a good conservative Christian college or maybe Hillsdale, get a nursing degree, find a guy who will wine and dine with the little $ he has in college but who's getting a STEM degree.

Have babies, if something goes wrong, you have a nursing degree.

The problem women have...the first step in the entire process is having a good dad. It's sorta the luck of the draw to a large extent, which is why I hate it when men hate on women.

Correct.

   

What makes their selection now tougher of course is feminism, the reality that they waste their most attractive years studying and carousel riding.

It is tantamount to a pro-athlete who starts football or soccer after he turns 26. Even if he has exceptional genetics, he would never be able to replicate the success he would have had if the turned pro at age 18.

It is the same with women. Also the female selection bias as put in the graph above is always clear. That is why in the past the family, mother and father helped them, because the super-hot-tingles guy was too much dark triad and an 18yo girl on average knows jack shit about choosing the right kind of man for her life (unless schooled in full Red Pill awareness).

[Goldin Boy]

Why is this a serious topic? Nothing is objectively, quantifiably hard for a women in the West. Especially re: men.

The Western Women's life is like playing Super Mario and you have always the Invincibility Star but they kill themselves repeatedly walking into bottomless pit instead of jumping over it. The deck is stacked in their favor but they still fuck themselves up. But I digress

Women make it difficult for themselves because of:

1) Hypergamy: She wants to snag the highest value man(The guy with Brad Pitt's looks, Ron jeremy's cock, Bill Gates money, Drake's ethnic ambiguity etc). He might not exist in her social circle. How will she keep him? She bring nothing to the table while he IS the table.

My observation: Men have a proclivity toward complacency in LTR's, they let themselves go physically and they stop gaming(this is what attracted her initially!). When his value drops too leave she'll leave regardless of how good of a provider/husband he is otherwise. I'm only 30 and this has happened to 6 friends all different races/income levels.

2) Insecurity/They have a tendency to create drama out of thin air...guys without game(95% of them) can't re-frame/pass shit-tests so they get defensive and argue. The hamster likes this for a while but she'll get tired of pushing buttons and getting the wind-up beta response everytime and that's when she divorces/cheats on him.

[Stakes Is High]